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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, at least one other person believes that life in prison is worse than execution.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/08/02/dem-rep-meeks-austin-yanked-9-11-plea-deal-because-of-some-of-the-reactions/

&quot;Collins then asked Meeks if he supports revoking the deal, Meeks answered that he is against the death penalty because it’s “too easy” for people who have committed heinous acts and that’s why people who commit atrocious crimes often commit suicide and that they should suffer through a life sentence.&quot;

More on the reasons for the revocation, which just raises more questions.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/08/02/cnns-liebermann-austin-white-house-could-have-squashed-9-11-plea-deal-years-ago-if-they-wanted-to/
&lt;blockquote&gt;Host Kaitlan Collins asked, “[T]he White House said yesterday they were not aware of this plea deal until it was struck. Do we know if Secretary Austin was aware of this?”

Liebermann responded, “The plea deal itself, at this point, that much is unclear. But what we’ve reported and &lt;b&gt;what others have reported for more than two-and-a-half years is that plea deal discussions were in the works. So, this shouldn’t have been a surprise to the Pentagon or to anybody else that there was a process that was ongoing to try to get to a plea deal.&lt;/b&gt; Had Austin or the White House wanted to stop this process and say, look, a plea deal is off the table, they could have done that at any point over the course of the past two-and-a-half years. And that’s part of why this is such a surprise that Austin simply and quietly posts a memo in which he relieves the woman who is in charge of the military court at Guantanamo Bay and revokes the plea agreements that had gotten to this point. &lt;b&gt;You have to believe that part of that was the ferocity of the bipartisan backlash and the ferocity of the backlash from the victims’ families when they were notified of this and then when it was announced publicly.&lt;/b&gt;”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If Austin didn&#039;t know what his subordinate was doing in such a high-profile case, that&#039;s one more on the long list of reasons he should be fired.

Of course he knew, and approved at least tacitly; but the negotiator is going to take the hit for him.

Another on the long list of moves the Democrats thought they could sneak past the public.

Then again, maybe they really did think the public has &quot;moved on&quot; far enough for them to pull this stunt; Obama got away with things almost as bad, or arguable worse.

I&#039;m sure The Bee will have an appropriate headline.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least one other person believes that life in prison is worse than execution.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/08/02/dem-rep-meeks-austin-yanked-9-11-plea-deal-because-of-some-of-the-reactions/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/08/02/dem-rep-meeks-austin-yanked-9-11-plea-deal-because-of-some-of-the-reactions/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Collins then asked Meeks if he supports revoking the deal, Meeks answered that he is against the death penalty because it’s “too easy” for people who have committed heinous acts and that’s why people who commit atrocious crimes often commit suicide and that they should suffer through a life sentence.&#8221;</p>
<p>More on the reasons for the revocation, which just raises more questions.<br />
<a href="https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/08/02/cnns-liebermann-austin-white-house-could-have-squashed-9-11-plea-deal-years-ago-if-they-wanted-to/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/08/02/cnns-liebermann-austin-white-house-could-have-squashed-9-11-plea-deal-years-ago-if-they-wanted-to/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Host Kaitlan Collins asked, “[T]he White House said yesterday they were not aware of this plea deal until it was struck. Do we know if Secretary Austin was aware of this?”</p>
<p>Liebermann responded, “The plea deal itself, at this point, that much is unclear. But what we’ve reported and <b>what others have reported for more than two-and-a-half years is that plea deal discussions were in the works. So, this shouldn’t have been a surprise to the Pentagon or to anybody else that there was a process that was ongoing to try to get to a plea deal.</b> Had Austin or the White House wanted to stop this process and say, look, a plea deal is off the table, they could have done that at any point over the course of the past two-and-a-half years. And that’s part of why this is such a surprise that Austin simply and quietly posts a memo in which he relieves the woman who is in charge of the military court at Guantanamo Bay and revokes the plea agreements that had gotten to this point. <b>You have to believe that part of that was the ferocity of the bipartisan backlash and the ferocity of the backlash from the victims’ families when they were notified of this and then when it was announced publicly.</b>”
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<p>If Austin didn&#8217;t know what his subordinate was doing in such a high-profile case, that&#8217;s one more on the long list of reasons he should be fired.</p>
<p>Of course he knew, and approved at least tacitly; but the negotiator is going to take the hit for him.</p>
<p>Another on the long list of moves the Democrats thought they could sneak past the public.</p>
<p>Then again, maybe they really did think the public has &#8220;moved on&#8221; far enough for them to pull this stunt; Obama got away with things almost as bad, or arguable worse.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure The Bee will have an appropriate headline.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Aug 2024 02:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess it could be a really disgusting play for the American Muslim vote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it could be a really disgusting play for the American Muslim vote.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Aug 2024 02:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is there some quid pro quo I&#039;m missing here?

Or is it just bleeding heart liberal stuff?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there some quid pro quo I&#8217;m missing here?</p>
<p>Or is it just bleeding heart liberal stuff?</p>
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		By: Robert J Sabatini		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert J Sabatini]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Aug 2024 01:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only a fool would believe that he will die in a US prison.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a fool would believe that he will die in a US prison.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Aug 2024 01:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And: &lt;blockquote&gt; Defense Secretary Austin in a Statement released tonight also Withdraws the DoD Official, Susan Escallier, from her Oversight of the Case.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1819538280011968605?t=viQ-OdsN03GqQ1rLuxhIyA&#038;s=19]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And: </p>
<blockquote><p> Defense Secretary Austin in a Statement released tonight also Withdraws the DoD Official, Susan Escallier, from her Oversight of the Case.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1819538280011968605?t=viQ-OdsN03GqQ1rLuxhIyA&#038;s=19" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1819538280011968605?t=viQ-OdsN03GqQ1rLuxhIyA&#038;s=19</a></p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Aug 2024 01:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, hello: &lt;b&gt;REVOKED&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;blockquote&gt; Following Massive Controversy and Anger from 9/11 Survivors and their Families, U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin has Revoked a Plea Deal which had been decided by DoD Lawyers and Approved by a Military Tribunal, which would have seen Three Former Al-Qaeda Terrorists who planned the 9/11 Attacks; Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Walid bin Attash, and Mustafa al-Hawsawi, having pled Guilty in order to receive a Life Sentence at Guantanamo Bay instead of the Death Penalty.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1819537614967333187?t=e1-aFyqGIEhkhWxyc6RrjQ&#038;s=19]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, hello: <b>REVOKED</b>: </p>
<blockquote><p> Following Massive Controversy and Anger from 9/11 Survivors and their Families, U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin has Revoked a Plea Deal which had been decided by DoD Lawyers and Approved by a Military Tribunal, which would have seen Three Former Al-Qaeda Terrorists who planned the 9/11 Attacks; Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Walid bin Attash, and Mustafa al-Hawsawi, having pled Guilty in order to receive a Life Sentence at Guantanamo Bay instead of the Death Penalty.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1819537614967333187?t=e1-aFyqGIEhkhWxyc6RrjQ&#038;s=19" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1819537614967333187?t=e1-aFyqGIEhkhWxyc6RrjQ&#038;s=19</a></p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2024 18:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess, the death penalty would summon a certain dread that life does not, but we&#039;re not talking about this type of person, would ksm welcome death, well he never went on martyr missions, he surrendered when he was captured in rawalpindi, if memory serves,

we have seen with lower levels operatives like that MIT trained microbiologist that prompted that hostage incident in texas, as possible exchange,

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/aafia-siddiqui-federal-prisoner-center-texas-hostage-situation-rcna12381
 this is the one that was considered more authentic by a western author that ayan hirsi ali, (that tells you how messed up the value system of these writers like deborah scoggins) then there was that associate of the amman hotel bombing, that they wanted to trade for islamic state operatives,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess, the death penalty would summon a certain dread that life does not, but we&#8217;re not talking about this type of person, would ksm welcome death, well he never went on martyr missions, he surrendered when he was captured in rawalpindi, if memory serves,</p>
<p>we have seen with lower levels operatives like that MIT trained microbiologist that prompted that hostage incident in texas, as possible exchange,</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/aafia-siddiqui-federal-prisoner-center-texas-hostage-situation-rcna12381" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/aafia-siddiqui-federal-prisoner-center-texas-hostage-situation-rcna12381</a><br />
 this is the one that was considered more authentic by a western author that ayan hirsi ali, (that tells you how messed up the value system of these writers like deborah scoggins) then there was that associate of the amman hotel bombing, that they wanted to trade for islamic state operatives,</p>
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		By: rbj1		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2024 18:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Couple this with the prisoner exchange with Russia post. KSM, et al., might not have much value to the Islamic terrorist crowd, except to humiliate America by forcing us to trade them for some highly sympathetic hostages. Dead terrorists have no value.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple this with the prisoner exchange with Russia post. KSM, et al., might not have much value to the Islamic terrorist crowd, except to humiliate America by forcing us to trade them for some highly sympathetic hostages. Dead terrorists have no value.</p>
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		By: fullmoon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2024 17:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I’ve never understood why someone convicted of murder would want a Life sentence over the Death Penalty.&lt;/i&gt;

When you are dead, there is no boredom, no worry, no concerns, no regrets, no disappointments, no bad food, no disease, no discomfort, etc.

Recently watched true crime where man killed wife, her body never found,dead  wifes parents get custody of children, killer gets visitation, beats 2 year old and six year old with hammer, sets them on fire. 

 Personally, some killers should get life, after being blinded, crippled, and having their tongues cut off. 

 Or, do the surgery and let them out of prison after a year or two to fend for themselves.

Sentence a few for practice, see if it acts as a deterrent to some crimes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’ve never understood why someone convicted of murder would want a Life sentence over the Death Penalty.</i></p>
<p>When you are dead, there is no boredom, no worry, no concerns, no regrets, no disappointments, no bad food, no disease, no discomfort, etc.</p>
<p>Recently watched true crime where man killed wife, her body never found,dead  wifes parents get custody of children, killer gets visitation, beats 2 year old and six year old with hammer, sets them on fire. </p>
<p> Personally, some killers should get life, after being blinded, crippled, and having their tongues cut off. </p>
<p> Or, do the surgery and let them out of prison after a year or two to fend for themselves.</p>
<p>Sentence a few for practice, see if it acts as a deterrent to some crimes.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2024 17:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This policy would comport with going easy on KSM, I reckon. 

Where &quot;. . . stop his Escalation of Tensions&quot; readily translates to &quot;quit killing your avowed enemies&quot;, and &quot;. . . move towards an Immediate Ceasefire and Hostage Deal with Hamas&quot; translates to &quot;Let Hamas survive to win, already&quot;!: 
 &lt;blockquote&gt; According to Axios; U.S. President Joe Biden had a “Difficult Call” last night with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, during which he reportedly told Netanyahu he needs to stop his Escalation of Tensions in the Region and move towards an Immediate Ceasefire and Hostage Deal with Hamas. With Biden further telling Netanyahu that he would help Israel to Defeat an Iranian and Hezbollah Attack this time, but that if he decided to Escalate again, he shouldn’t expect the United States to “Bail him Out.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1819411185524933029?t=HbmAuaQ0JagVMcD0k2knDA&#038;s=19]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This policy would comport with going easy on KSM, I reckon. </p>
<p>Where &#8220;. . . stop his Escalation of Tensions&#8221; readily translates to &#8220;quit killing your avowed enemies&#8221;, and &#8220;. . . move towards an Immediate Ceasefire and Hostage Deal with Hamas&#8221; translates to &#8220;Let Hamas survive to win, already&#8221;!: </p>
<blockquote><p> According to Axios; U.S. President Joe Biden had a “Difficult Call” last night with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, during which he reportedly told Netanyahu he needs to stop his Escalation of Tensions in the Region and move towards an Immediate Ceasefire and Hostage Deal with Hamas. With Biden further telling Netanyahu that he would help Israel to Defeat an Iranian and Hezbollah Attack this time, but that if he decided to Escalate again, he shouldn’t expect the United States to “Bail him Out.” </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1819411185524933029?t=HbmAuaQ0JagVMcD0k2knDA&#038;s=19" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1819411185524933029?t=HbmAuaQ0JagVMcD0k2knDA&#038;s=19</a></p>
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