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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, there have been a tremendous number of failed attempts, most of which I had not known about. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

Robert Kennedy is on this list, which is alphabetical by surname.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinated_American_politicians

That list also included Joseph Smith jr, the Prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, because he was a candidate for president before being murdered for religious-political reasons. 

Trump is unique for being on the lists of former presidents &lt;em&gt;and &lt;/em&gt;presidential candidates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith_1844_presidential_campaign
&quot;The campaign of Latter Day Saint movement founder Joseph Smith and his vice presidential running mate, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints First Presidency first counselor Sidney Rigdon, took place in 1844. The United States presidential election of that year was scheduled for November 1 to December 4, but Smith was killed in Carthage, Illinois, on June 27. Smith was the first Latter Day Saint to seek the presidency, and &lt;b&gt;the first American presidential candidate to be assassinated.[1] &lt;/b&gt;
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In his campaign platform, Smith proposed to gradually end slavery, to reduce the size of Congress, to re-establish a national bank, to annex Texas, California, and Oregon, to reform prisons, and to authorize the federal government to protect the liberties of Latter Day Saints and other minorities.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there have been a tremendous number of failed attempts, most of which I had not known about.<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots</a></p>
<p>Robert Kennedy is on this list, which is alphabetical by surname.<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinated_American_politicians" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinated_American_politicians</a></p>
<p>That list also included Joseph Smith jr, the Prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, because he was a candidate for president before being murdered for religious-political reasons. </p>
<p>Trump is unique for being on the lists of former presidents <em>and </em>presidential candidates.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith_1844_presidential_campaign" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith_1844_presidential_campaign</a><br />
&#8220;The campaign of Latter Day Saint movement founder Joseph Smith and his vice presidential running mate, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints First Presidency first counselor Sidney Rigdon, took place in 1844. The United States presidential election of that year was scheduled for November 1 to December 4, but Smith was killed in Carthage, Illinois, on June 27. Smith was the first Latter Day Saint to seek the presidency, and <b>the first American presidential candidate to be assassinated.[1] </b><br />
&#8230;<br />
In his campaign platform, Smith proposed to gradually end slavery, to reduce the size of Congress, to re-establish a national bank, to annex Texas, California, and Oregon, to reform prisons, and to authorize the federal government to protect the liberties of Latter Day Saints and other minorities.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Karmi &#062; I took the test and you are correct about auto-complete on Google.
However, when I selected &quot;assassination attempt on president&quot; they did have a few stories about Trump, UNDER the general histories of attempts on all presidents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Karmi &gt; I took the test and you are correct about auto-complete on Google.<br />
However, when I selected &#8220;assassination attempt on president&#8221; they did have a few stories about Trump, UNDER the general histories of attempts on all presidents.</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is there any other large city in America where the Democrat candidate gets 95% of the vote? Hillary received 95% in 2016 to Trump&#039;s 3% and Biden received 95% to Trump&#039;s 5% in 2020.
Even Washington DC only voted for Biden by a 92.1% to 5.4% for Trump. Bronx county seems almost bipartisan with only 83% for Biden to 15% for Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any other large city in America where the Democrat candidate gets 95% of the vote? Hillary received 95% in 2016 to Trump&#8217;s 3% and Biden received 95% to Trump&#8217;s 5% in 2020.<br />
Even Washington DC only voted for Biden by a 92.1% to 5.4% for Trump. Bronx county seems almost bipartisan with only 83% for Biden to 15% for Trump.</p>
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		By: Karmi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karmi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Google search: &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13682029/Google-sparks-frightening-new-election-conspiracy-key-feature-omits-Trump.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;assassination attempt on&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Google’s Autocomplete function then lists truman, president truman, reagan, ronald reagan, lenin, franklin roosevelt, andrew johnson, fdr, seward, john paul ii, but no trump or donald trump.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Google sparks frightening new election conspiracy as key feature omits Trump&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Someone is on ‘&lt;i&gt;Da Ball&lt;/i&gt; to have caught it that fast...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google search: <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13682029/Google-sparks-frightening-new-election-conspiracy-key-feature-omits-Trump.html" rel="nofollow ugc"><b>assassination attempt on</b></a></p>
<p>Google’s Autocomplete function then lists truman, president truman, reagan, ronald reagan, lenin, franklin roosevelt, andrew johnson, fdr, seward, john paul ii, but no trump or donald trump.</p>
<blockquote><p>Google sparks frightening new election conspiracy as key feature omits Trump</p></blockquote>
<p>Someone is on ‘<i>Da Ball</i> to have caught it that fast&#8230;</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Or the street violence we’ll see if it doesn’t, for that matter. The Left is always allowed to riot.&quot; -  Niketas C.

After the riots of 2020, I&#039;ve already made preparations. Cameras, lights, a security system, and ammo, plenty of ammo.  Have also let the local cops know that I support them. They&#039;re a pretty good small town police force.  Not understaffed like Seattle and Tacoma. 

I hope Trump and his staff will be prepared to deal with the violence because it&#039;s almost certain to happen in certain areas. :-(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Or the street violence we’ll see if it doesn’t, for that matter. The Left is always allowed to riot.&#8221; &#8211;  Niketas C.</p>
<p>After the riots of 2020, I&#8217;ve already made preparations. Cameras, lights, a security system, and ammo, plenty of ammo.  Have also let the local cops know that I support them. They&#8217;re a pretty good small town police force.  Not understaffed like Seattle and Tacoma. </p>
<p>I hope Trump and his staff will be prepared to deal with the violence because it&#8217;s almost certain to happen in certain areas. 🙁</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ huxley &#062; &quot;What’s your bet that Trump will finish stronger than he is now against Kamala or any other Democrats?&quot;

If he keeps this up, the betting-on-politics sites are going to be wild!

https://notthebee.com/article/donald-trump-says-that-he-will-continue-to-hold-outdoor-rallies-despite-reports-that-the-secret-service-asked-him-to-stop-best-of-all-hes-returning-to-butler-pa

(See the post for screenshots of Trump&#039;s statements) 

&lt;blockquote&gt;In reality, yes, the Secret Service apparently did tell Trump he should consider stopping the outdoor rallies. And, in typical Trump-ian fashion, the former president told them to pound sand.

Here&#039;s Donald Trump&#039;s statement on Truth Social:


Good for Trump for insisting on not changing his rallies.

He can&#039;t afford to show any fear in this moment, and it&#039;s important that the Secret Service step up.

And, on Friday, Donald Trump said this:


Not only is he going to continue outdoor rallies, he&#039;s going BACK to Butler to finish the rally interrupted by the assassination attempt.

&lt;b&gt;How can you not admire this guy?&lt;/b&gt;

I am all in favor of the Trump Rallies staying exactly the same (as long as Secret Service does their job).

Let me leave you with 4 minutes of Trump talking about his golf game as a reminder of the kinds of things we love to see from these rallies.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I certainly hope the USSS does their job right this time; it would be really hard for the agency to escape accusations of collusion if they don&#039;t, but (I&#039;m really sad to say this) the Democrats may think they can shrug that off if they manage to get rid of Trump for good.

Tip: martyrs are &lt;em&gt;never&lt;/em&gt; gone for good!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ huxley &gt; &#8220;What’s your bet that Trump will finish stronger than he is now against Kamala or any other Democrats?&#8221;</p>
<p>If he keeps this up, the betting-on-politics sites are going to be wild!</p>
<p><a href="https://notthebee.com/article/donald-trump-says-that-he-will-continue-to-hold-outdoor-rallies-despite-reports-that-the-secret-service-asked-him-to-stop-best-of-all-hes-returning-to-butler-pa" rel="nofollow ugc">https://notthebee.com/article/donald-trump-says-that-he-will-continue-to-hold-outdoor-rallies-despite-reports-that-the-secret-service-asked-him-to-stop-best-of-all-hes-returning-to-butler-pa</a></p>
<p>(See the post for screenshots of Trump&#8217;s statements) </p>
<blockquote><p>In reality, yes, the Secret Service apparently did tell Trump he should consider stopping the outdoor rallies. And, in typical Trump-ian fashion, the former president told them to pound sand.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Donald Trump&#8217;s statement on Truth Social:</p>
<p>Good for Trump for insisting on not changing his rallies.</p>
<p>He can&#8217;t afford to show any fear in this moment, and it&#8217;s important that the Secret Service step up.</p>
<p>And, on Friday, Donald Trump said this:</p>
<p>Not only is he going to continue outdoor rallies, he&#8217;s going BACK to Butler to finish the rally interrupted by the assassination attempt.</p>
<p><b>How can you not admire this guy?</b></p>
<p>I am all in favor of the Trump Rallies staying exactly the same (as long as Secret Service does their job).</p>
<p>Let me leave you with 4 minutes of Trump talking about his golf game as a reminder of the kinds of things we love to see from these rallies.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I certainly hope the USSS does their job right this time; it would be really hard for the agency to escape accusations of collusion if they don&#8217;t, but (I&#8217;m really sad to say this) the Democrats may think they can shrug that off if they manage to get rid of Trump for good.</p>
<p>Tip: martyrs are <em>never</em> gone for good!</p>
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		By: Cornflour		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian E on July 28, 2024 at 6:57 pm said:

&quot;Add to that the state Republicans have already signaled they will help voters get their ballots to the drop boxes. This is a sticky proposition. Ballot harvesting is illegal– and though it’s likely Dems have/will use that strategy– it will be the Reps that get prosecuted if they get caught.&quot;
_______________________________________________

Brian E :

https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_harvesting_%28ballot_collection%29_laws_by_state#Michigan

Ballotpedia describes the Michigan state law that LIMITS ballot harvesting.

Advocates for this law claim that it makes ballot harvesting illegal; but early voting, mail-in voting, and drop boxes render the law unenforceable, unless it&#039;s brazenly flouted.  And, as you said, unless the law is broken by Republicans.  Democrats will be given free rein.
 
Having said that, I agree that &quot;there is an upper limit of malfeasance,&quot; but that&#039;s a high bar to overcome.  I also agree that Michigan is winnable; I just think it&#039;s unlikely.  There&#039;s still a while to go before the last day of the election.  Will the malfeasance margin be cleared?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian E on July 28, 2024 at 6:57 pm said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Add to that the state Republicans have already signaled they will help voters get their ballots to the drop boxes. This is a sticky proposition. Ballot harvesting is illegal– and though it’s likely Dems have/will use that strategy– it will be the Reps that get prosecuted if they get caught.&#8221;<br />
_______________________________________________</p>
<p>Brian E :</p>
<p><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_harvesting_%28ballot_collection%29_laws_by_state#Michigan" rel="nofollow ugc">https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_harvesting_%28ballot_collection%29_laws_by_state#Michigan</a></p>
<p>Ballotpedia describes the Michigan state law that LIMITS ballot harvesting.</p>
<p>Advocates for this law claim that it makes ballot harvesting illegal; but early voting, mail-in voting, and drop boxes render the law unenforceable, unless it&#8217;s brazenly flouted.  And, as you said, unless the law is broken by Republicans.  Democrats will be given free rein.</p>
<p>Having said that, I agree that &#8220;there is an upper limit of malfeasance,&#8221; but that&#8217;s a high bar to overcome.  I also agree that Michigan is winnable; I just think it&#8217;s unlikely.  There&#8217;s still a while to go before the last day of the election.  Will the malfeasance margin be cleared?</p>
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		By: Bob Wilson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BrianE 
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Are there any local Republicans or party organizations that we can donate to help the GOTV effort?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BrianE<br />
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Are there any local Republicans or party organizations that we can donate to help the GOTV effort?</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Niketas,
Here&#039;s some of the reason why I think Michigan is in play, and there is an upper limit of malfeasance in the most blue areas of the state.
In 2016, Detroit voted 95% to 3% for Hillary Clinton with a total votes cast for Hillary of 280,000. This created an uproar at the time as The Detroit News reported:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Overall, state records show 10.6 percent of the precincts in the 22 counties that began the retabulation process couldn’t be recounted because of state law that bars recounts for unbalanced precincts or ones with broken seals.

The problems were the worst in Detroit, where discrepancies meant officials couldn’t recount votes in 392 precincts, or nearly 60 percent. And two-thirds of those precincts had too many votes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dems fixed the problem in 2020. Joe still won with 95% of the vote but the vote total in Detroit for Joe was 233,908 or nearly 50,000 fewer votes. This suggest to me there is an upper limit, at least in Detroit. Will they move on to other counties and precincts? There may or may not be the same enthusiasm for committing voter fraud at the levels necessary to overcome the increased enthusiasm for Trump or the lack of enthusiasm for Kamala.
Then there is the political problem facing auto workers  in Detroit and surrounding areas. The UAW leadership endorsed Biden, but his administrations EV mandate is going to cost Michigan lots of already dwindling jobs. 
Add to that the state Republicans have already signaled they will help voters get their ballots to the drop boxes. This is a sticky proposition. Ballot harvesting is illegal-- and though it&#039;s likely Dems have/will use that strategy-- it will be the Reps that get prosecuted if they get caught.
So they will have to have a more robust &quot;get out the vote&quot; campaign this time around.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/
Michigan is winnable, IMO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niketas,<br />
Here&#8217;s some of the reason why I think Michigan is in play, and there is an upper limit of malfeasance in the most blue areas of the state.<br />
In 2016, Detroit voted 95% to 3% for Hillary Clinton with a total votes cast for Hillary of 280,000. This created an uproar at the time as The Detroit News reported:</p>
<blockquote><p>Overall, state records show 10.6 percent of the precincts in the 22 counties that began the retabulation process couldn’t be recounted because of state law that bars recounts for unbalanced precincts or ones with broken seals.</p>
<p>The problems were the worst in Detroit, where discrepancies meant officials couldn’t recount votes in 392 precincts, or nearly 60 percent. And two-thirds of those precincts had too many votes.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dems fixed the problem in 2020. Joe still won with 95% of the vote but the vote total in Detroit for Joe was 233,908 or nearly 50,000 fewer votes. This suggest to me there is an upper limit, at least in Detroit. Will they move on to other counties and precincts? There may or may not be the same enthusiasm for committing voter fraud at the levels necessary to overcome the increased enthusiasm for Trump or the lack of enthusiasm for Kamala.<br />
Then there is the political problem facing auto workers  in Detroit and surrounding areas. The UAW leadership endorsed Biden, but his administrations EV mandate is going to cost Michigan lots of already dwindling jobs.<br />
Add to that the state Republicans have already signaled they will help voters get their ballots to the drop boxes. This is a sticky proposition. Ballot harvesting is illegal&#8211; and though it&#8217;s likely Dems have/will use that strategy&#8211; it will be the Reps that get prosecuted if they get caught.<br />
So they will have to have a more robust &#8220;get out the vote&#8221; campaign this time around.<br />
<a href="https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/</a><br />
Michigan is winnable, IMO.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Be concerned. Very, very, concerned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be concerned. Very, very, concerned.</p>
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