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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2024 06:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Phillip &#062; &quot;I had hoped the presenter might have spared a thought for examples like ‘blessèd’ as well, but one can’t have everything and that is admittedly a somewhat specialized usage.&quot;

That word would be covered under the &quot;final s&quot; rule as simply &quot;bless&#039;d,&quot; which is how most of us pronounce it today.

My supposition is that we have retained /id/ pronunciations for certain words like &#039;blessèd’ because of the continuing impact of the King James Bible and the old hymns (and poems) that need the extra syllable to scan properly.

If I remember correctly, ALL simple past tense words were formerly pronounced with the last syllable as /id/.
English speakers are notorious for eventually eliding sounds if they can possibly get away with it.

I wasn&#039;t able to find any support online for my thesis, but maybe someone else has additional information, or a refutation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Phillip &gt; &#8220;I had hoped the presenter might have spared a thought for examples like ‘blessèd’ as well, but one can’t have everything and that is admittedly a somewhat specialized usage.&#8221;</p>
<p>That word would be covered under the &#8220;final s&#8221; rule as simply &#8220;bless&#8217;d,&#8221; which is how most of us pronounce it today.</p>
<p>My supposition is that we have retained /id/ pronunciations for certain words like &#8216;blessèd’ because of the continuing impact of the King James Bible and the old hymns (and poems) that need the extra syllable to scan properly.</p>
<p>If I remember correctly, ALL simple past tense words were formerly pronounced with the last syllable as /id/.<br />
English speakers are notorious for eventually eliding sounds if they can possibly get away with it.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t able to find any support online for my thesis, but maybe someone else has additional information, or a refutation.</p>
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		By: Dax		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2024 04:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate, thank you for your reply. I did see some info when I searched, about using 3rd party apps to do this, but it seemed like a lot of trouble.

Thank you for the tip about using Reader to read Fox News. It has also worked for me when the Washington Times used to only let me read a certain number of articles; with Reader I could keep reading new articles.  :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate, thank you for your reply. I did see some info when I searched, about using 3rd party apps to do this, but it seemed like a lot of trouble.</p>
<p>Thank you for the tip about using Reader to read Fox News. It has also worked for me when the Washington Times used to only let me read a certain number of articles; with Reader I could keep reading new articles.  🙂</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2024 01:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Karmi is trolling again?

Shocked.

Shocked.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karmi is trolling again?</p>
<p>Shocked.</p>
<p>Shocked.</p>
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		By: Philip Sells		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/07/24/open-thread-7-24-24/#comment-2752277</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Sells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 23:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That video was quite useful. Being brief and focused also helped. I had hoped the presenter might have spared a thought for examples like &#039;blessèd&#039; as well, but one can&#039;t have everything and that is admittedly a somewhat specialized usage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That video was quite useful. Being brief and focused also helped. I had hoped the presenter might have spared a thought for examples like &#8216;blessèd&#8217; as well, but one can&#8217;t have everything and that is admittedly a somewhat specialized usage.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 22:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;This is the sort of thing that reminds me how very very happy I am that I learned English as a native speaker.

--neo&lt;/i&gt;

French has more sounds not in English than English has which are not in French. And there are tricky rules, like the -ed business, for how words are pronounced.

Still, I&#039;d prefer to be learning French as an English speaker rather than the other way around. French has its messiness in sounds and meaning, but nothing like English.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is the sort of thing that reminds me how very very happy I am that I learned English as a native speaker.</p>
<p>&#8211;neo</i></p>
<p>French has more sounds not in English than English has which are not in French. And there are tricky rules, like the -ed business, for how words are pronounced.</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;d prefer to be learning French as an English speaker rather than the other way around. French has its messiness in sounds and meaning, but nothing like English.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 20:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whether she was named &quot;czar&quot; is immaterial to the fact that Biden publicly tasked her with working to fix the border mess. Neither he nor Harris ever intended to do anything to fix the mess, of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether she was named &#8220;czar&#8221; is immaterial to the fact that Biden publicly tasked her with working to fix the border mess. Neither he nor Harris ever intended to do anything to fix the mess, of course.</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 19:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Axios “pounced” on Republicans for calling Kamala “border czar”.  Then had to issue a correction admitting that they had called Kamala “border czar”.

You are looking more and more like a troll every day karmi.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Axios “pounced” on Republicans for calling Kamala “border czar”.  Then had to issue a correction admitting that they had called Kamala “border czar”.</p>
<p>You are looking more and more like a troll every day karmi.</p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Banned Lizard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 18:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some investigation details coming out are bizarre.
U.S. Rep Eli Crane (R-Tucson) is a former SEAL team sniper.
He was on scene in Butler, PA, shortly after the assassination attempt.
&lt;a href=&quot;https://x.com/RepEliCrane/status/1816117867701497957&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;As he points out with several examples&lt;/a&gt;, a lot of the official story doesn&#039;t add up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some investigation details coming out are bizarre.<br />
U.S. Rep Eli Crane (R-Tucson) is a former SEAL team sniper.<br />
He was on scene in Butler, PA, shortly after the assassination attempt.<br />
<a href="https://x.com/RepEliCrane/status/1816117867701497957" rel="nofollow ugc">As he points out with several examples</a>, a lot of the official story doesn&#8217;t add up.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 18:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Karmi, two wrongs don&#039;t make a right, but Harris&#039;s past sexual antics should rather take the wind out of attacks on Trump for his more youthful behavior. No saints visible in the 2024 presidential race.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karmi, two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right, but Harris&#8217;s past sexual antics should rather take the wind out of attacks on Trump for his more youthful behavior. No saints visible in the 2024 presidential race.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 18:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gringo, I grew up in Arizona. When I first heard Barbara Walters on TV news, I thought she had a speech defect. It took me a while to learn that it was a regional accent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gringo, I grew up in Arizona. When I first heard Barbara Walters on TV news, I thought she had a speech defect. It took me a while to learn that it was a regional accent.</p>
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