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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/07/23/open-threqd-7-23-24/#comment-2752199</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 17:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[C’mon man, EVERYONE knows that sloped rooves are much hotter than flat ones…and the greater the slope the hotter they get…
…for example, a roof of 90% is life threatening…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C’mon man, EVERYONE knows that sloped rooves are much hotter than flat ones…and the greater the slope the hotter they get…<br />
…for example, a roof of 90% is life threatening…</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/07/23/open-threqd-7-23-24/#comment-2752185</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.P.S.--I&#039;ve seen stories saying that the Secret Service wants President Trump to drop open air rallies as just too dangerous and doing this, of course, will take a lot of steam out President Trump&#039;s campaign, and his ability to generate enthusiasm.
 
Let me ask you, though, hasn&#039;t President Biden had  many events which were in the open air?

So, is this an attempt by the Secret Service to better protect President Trump, is it a way to drain the energy out of his campaign or, a bit of both?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.P.S.&#8211;I&#8217;ve seen stories saying that the Secret Service wants President Trump to drop open air rallies as just too dangerous and doing this, of course, will take a lot of steam out President Trump&#8217;s campaign, and his ability to generate enthusiasm.</p>
<p>Let me ask you, though, hasn&#8217;t President Biden had  many events which were in the open air?</p>
<p>So, is this an attempt by the Secret Service to better protect President Trump, is it a way to drain the energy out of his campaign or, a bit of both?</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/07/23/open-threqd-7-23-24/#comment-2752176</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 14:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S.  Keep in mind that a well-trained and talented sniper, with the right rifle, has made kills up to 2.3 miles distant from their shooting position. *

What does that say to you about the distance the Secret Service&#039;s &quot;perimeter&quot;--in the  case of the attempted assassination of President Trump, apparently something less than 150 or so yards from the podium--should have extended outward to, and how many agents it would have taken to secure a reasonable perimeter?

*  See  https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-sniper-world-record-longest-kill-russia-1845017]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  Keep in mind that a well-trained and talented sniper, with the right rifle, has made kills up to 2.3 miles distant from their shooting position. *</p>
<p>What does that say to you about the distance the Secret Service&#8217;s &#8220;perimeter&#8221;&#8211;in the  case of the attempted assassination of President Trump, apparently something less than 150 or so yards from the podium&#8211;should have extended outward to, and how many agents it would have taken to secure a reasonable perimeter?</p>
<p>*  See  <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-sniper-world-record-longest-kill-russia-1845017" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-sniper-world-record-longest-kill-russia-1845017</a></p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/07/23/open-threqd-7-23-24/#comment-2752174</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 14:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As members of Congress have ferreted out, the Secret Service&#039;s Pittsburg office  assigned 12 extra agents to protect &quot;Dr.&quot; Jill that day--when she was speaking indoors--in an easily contained environment, a well-secured ball room--and to around just 300 presumably inspected, wanded, and well vetted people (i. e. 300 possible threats)--this, while that same office assigned just 3 extra agents to President Trump&#039;s open air rally, which had around 20,000 attendees (i.e. 20,000 possible threats to run through magnetometers, vet, watch, and to possibly contend with), and with buildings with a clear line of sight of the podium declared &quot;outside the Secret Service&#039;s &quot;perimeter.&quot;&quot; 

That should give you an idea of the mindset of Secret Service officials.

Despite all of the direct death threats from Iran, despite the acknowledgements that some presumably well-trained and armed terrorists likely crossed into the U.S. through our essentially open Southern border, and were setting up shop here in the U.S., despite eight years of the constant demonization of President Trump and many death threats--some of them very open and public--President Trump didn&#039;t &quot;deserve&quot; the extra security *

*  See  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jaw-dropper-a-reported-4x-as-many-local-secret-service-agents-sent-to-jill-biden-on-same-day-trump-was-shot/ar-BB1qrI4e]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As members of Congress have ferreted out, the Secret Service&#8217;s Pittsburg office  assigned 12 extra agents to protect &#8220;Dr.&#8221; Jill that day&#8211;when she was speaking indoors&#8211;in an easily contained environment, a well-secured ball room&#8211;and to around just 300 presumably inspected, wanded, and well vetted people (i. e. 300 possible threats)&#8211;this, while that same office assigned just 3 extra agents to President Trump&#8217;s open air rally, which had around 20,000 attendees (i.e. 20,000 possible threats to run through magnetometers, vet, watch, and to possibly contend with), and with buildings with a clear line of sight of the podium declared &#8220;outside the Secret Service&#8217;s &#8220;perimeter.&#8221;&#8221; </p>
<p>That should give you an idea of the mindset of Secret Service officials.</p>
<p>Despite all of the direct death threats from Iran, despite the acknowledgements that some presumably well-trained and armed terrorists likely crossed into the U.S. through our essentially open Southern border, and were setting up shop here in the U.S., despite eight years of the constant demonization of President Trump and many death threats&#8211;some of them very open and public&#8211;President Trump didn&#8217;t &#8220;deserve&#8221; the extra security *</p>
<p>*  See  <a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jaw-dropper-a-reported-4x-as-many-local-secret-service-agents-sent-to-jill-biden-on-same-day-trump-was-shot/ar-BB1qrI4e" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jaw-dropper-a-reported-4x-as-many-local-secret-service-agents-sent-to-jill-biden-on-same-day-trump-was-shot/ar-BB1qrI4e</a></p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/07/23/open-threqd-7-23-24/#comment-2752169</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 13:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, how about this.  

Many of the agents assigned to protect President Trump on the day of the attempted assassination, a deliberately inadequate number (gotta protect &quot;Dr.&quot; Jill don&#039;t ya know), and some of them relatively untrained &quot;subs&quot;--borrowed from the Department of Homeland Security, and perhaps other Federal agencies--didn&#039;t  much care for &quot;the Donald&quot; or his politics and, so, didn&#039;t put in their best effort that day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, how about this.  </p>
<p>Many of the agents assigned to protect President Trump on the day of the attempted assassination, a deliberately inadequate number (gotta protect &#8220;Dr.&#8221; Jill don&#8217;t ya know), and some of them relatively untrained &#8220;subs&#8221;&#8211;borrowed from the Department of Homeland Security, and perhaps other Federal agencies&#8211;didn&#8217;t  much care for &#8220;the Donald&#8221; or his politics and, so, didn&#8217;t put in their best effort that day.</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/07/23/open-threqd-7-23-24/#comment-2752151</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 05:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All kinds of bribes. Not looking out that window might be good for your career and looking out that window might bad for your health.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All kinds of bribes. Not looking out that window might be good for your career and looking out that window might bad for your health.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/07/23/open-threqd-7-23-24/#comment-2752142</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 03:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Conspiracy is often covered up by supposed dereliction. Pay the guy to look the other way while Epstein dies. &lt;/i&gt;

Chases Eagles:

That&#039;s possible. In Epstein&#039;s case, it&#039;s certainly the most likely IMO. (It&#039;s interesting how the most reflexive anti-conspiracy voices have nothing to say when it comes to Epstein.)

My counter is that it&#039;s one thing to pay off some low-level prison personnel on a case of a scumbag, whom few people cared about. It&#039;s another  to pay off SS agents and police in order to hit a former President and current presidential candidate before a crowd in a case which will be of global interest.

They know the names of the SS agent who was supposed to be on the roof and the police who were supposed to be patrolling. I have difficulty imagining such officers wouldn&#039;t realize that something&#039;s serious was up and they could be asked some horrific questions later.

OTOH if they were just slacking off because others were too and it was just another stupid rally and nothing would happen, I could see that more easily.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Conspiracy is often covered up by supposed dereliction. Pay the guy to look the other way while Epstein dies. </i></p>
<p>Chases Eagles:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s possible. In Epstein&#8217;s case, it&#8217;s certainly the most likely IMO. (It&#8217;s interesting how the most reflexive anti-conspiracy voices have nothing to say when it comes to Epstein.)</p>
<p>My counter is that it&#8217;s one thing to pay off some low-level prison personnel on a case of a scumbag, whom few people cared about. It&#8217;s another  to pay off SS agents and police in order to hit a former President and current presidential candidate before a crowd in a case which will be of global interest.</p>
<p>They know the names of the SS agent who was supposed to be on the roof and the police who were supposed to be patrolling. I have difficulty imagining such officers wouldn&#8217;t realize that something&#8217;s serious was up and they could be asked some horrific questions later.</p>
<p>OTOH if they were just slacking off because others were too and it was just another stupid rally and nothing would happen, I could see that more easily.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/07/23/open-threqd-7-23-24/#comment-2752141</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 03:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But let&#039;s focus on China, as all the isolationists say.

&lt;b&gt;Chinese Troops Deploy to Poland&#039;s Border - Criss Cappy, Task and Purpose&lt;/b&gt;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbMDf31t5UY]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But let&#8217;s focus on China, as all the isolationists say.</p>
<p><b>Chinese Troops Deploy to Poland&#8217;s Border &#8211; Criss Cappy, Task and Purpose</b></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbMDf31t5UY" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbMDf31t5UY</a></p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/07/23/open-threqd-7-23-24/#comment-2752139</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 03:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[om, you ignored my question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>om, you ignored my question.</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/07/23/open-threqd-7-23-24/#comment-2752137</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 02:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Conspiracy is often covered up by supposed dereliction. Pay the guy to look the other way while Epstein dies. Too hot or too “hot”.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conspiracy is often covered up by supposed dereliction. Pay the guy to look the other way while Epstein dies. Too hot or too “hot”.</p>
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