Comments on: Speeches at the Republican Convention

By: I Callahan

I Callahan — Fri, 19 Jul 2024 14:00:34 +0000

Art Deco – FANTASTIC set of ideas in reference to illegal immigration. The first one you mentioned (increasing prison/jail capacity) is my favorite. As an aside, increasing capacity needs to be done in general as well.

By: Barry Meislin

Barry Meislin — Fri, 19 Jul 2024 10:29:55 +0000

Never thought I’d see the day…but Turtler’s been out-Turtlered.

In any event , kudos to you both for the effort, the time spent…and the dedication…indeed, alas, “a piece of work”…

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Fri, 19 Jul 2024 10:15:44 +0000

RJW seems to be Democrat trying to pretend otherwise. We are wise to that, lefty.
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Althouse Chuck must have found some place to go when he flounced off, but RJW seems too issue-oriented to be Chuck. Remains to be seen if Bauxite will appreciate the help or be cheesed some interloper is working his corner.

By: Tina

Tina — Fri, 19 Jul 2024 09:59:10 +0000

@Turtler agree sooo much. Bottom line for me on immigration: unfortunates live in sh*t hole countries – their job is to find a way out. Our job is to decide who we let in. Our choice. Don’t see any of our citizens going across shark infested water on rafts to live in the communist cesspool named Cuba.

By: huxley

huxley — Fri, 19 Jul 2024 04:48:53 +0000

Re: Apparently a real 2024 Trump ad

It’s 40 seconds of lovely pencil animation, showing Trump moving, speaking, hugging and even dancing.

https://x.com/FilmLadd/status/1814098304889663894

The words seem to be from a 2017 commencement speech he gave at Liberty University (founded by Jerry Falwell):
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Treat the word “impossible” as nothing more than motivation. Relish the opportunity to be an outsider. Embrace that label. Being an outsider is fine, embrace the label, because it’s the outsiders who change the world and who make a real and lasting difference.

The more that a broken system tells you that you’re wrong, the more certain you should be that you must keep pushing ahead, you must keep pushing forward. And always have the courage to be yourself.

https://time.com/4778240/donald-trump-liberty-university-speech-transcript/
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It shows a gentler side of Trump which might surprise voters at all open to the possibility.

By: huxley

huxley — Fri, 19 Jul 2024 04:20:47 +0000

Re: RNC – Trump’s account of assassination attempt

I don’t watch political speeches but I felt compelled to watch this one. It was worth it.

–“Trump on Assassination Attempt: ‘I’m Not Supposed to Be Here Tonight’” (10:49)
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/rnc-trump-speech-biden-election-2024/card/trump-on-assassination-attempt-i-m-not-supposed-to-be-here-tonight–oppafVmw4bRkFLHXbcFN

Until now I never understood Trump’s personal appeal. Nor the love his followers have for him. But I understand better now and I realize I’m a part of this too.

By: JohnTyler

JohnTyler — Fri, 19 Jul 2024 02:26:15 +0000

Almost all illegal immigrants coming into the USA do so via Mexico.
Mexico, in collaboration with NGOs, is aiding and abetting this invasion of illegals.

To greatly reduce this invasion of illegals, severe economic sanctions must be imposed on Mexico as well as totally sealing the border.
If Mexico realizes that it will suffer economically and financially, they will cooperate with the USA.
Further, the NGOs involved in aiding the invasion of illegals must be prosecuted , which should include prosecuting those individuals who are the leaders/officers of these NGOs as well as any organization providing funding to these NGOs.

Any illegal caught in the USA must be immediately returned to their homeland whether or not their home nation will accept them. If their home nation refuses to accept them, drop them off anyway using any and all force required.
The US taxpayer should not bear the financial burden of incarcerating illegals.

Lastly, I do not understand why Mayorkas cannot be indicted for violating federal immigration laws. Frankly, he, and those who assisted him, also should be indicted for accessory to murder for all those US citizens murdered by illegals.
I guess this would include Biden and those who “conspired” with him to violate US immigration laws.

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Fri, 19 Jul 2024 01:04:37 +0000

If we want to make headway contra illegal immigration, we need to radically expand federal jail and prison capacity. We need a dedicated federal police force that does nothing but chase down immigration violators and we need a fifty foot high wall topped with razor wire and manned by armed guards at the southern border.
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The appropriate response to someone apprehended entering the country outside of designated entry points or with bogus documentation is to jail them immediately and not let them out until their case is processed. If the arresting officer is in error, they can be indemnified upon release. Given current income levels, $180 for each day of erroneous detention should cover it. You can have a magistrate on hand to cut the check on departure. As for those who have entered unlawfully, they’re due a public defender, a short hearing, and a jail sentence. Once they’ve completed their sentence, you deport them and put them in a database of people debarred from for any reason for a term of years.
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This procedure should also apply to anyone apprehended by police who is reasonably suspected of being an illegal alien. The process would be more elongated as an investigation would have to determine how long they had been in the country unlawfully and this in turn would regulate the length of their incarceration.
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In re persons applying for asylum in the United States, they and their dependents should be jailed immediately and not permitted at large until their case is processed. The applicant should have to explain why he was applying in the United States in lieu of applying some place proximate to his country of origin. Failure to provide a satisfactory answer should mean deportation to a country adjacent to his home country.
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NB, refugees are properly cared for in camps proximate to their country of origin, with a view to their eventual repatriation. Only under peculiar circumstances should they be resettled elsewhere and in those circumstances the proper destination is a country similar to their home country. There should not have been one Syrian or Libyan refugee entering Europe.
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Temporary residency status is properly limited to accredited employees of foreign governments and their dependents, authentic refugees and their dependents, and students, teachers, and their dependents. That’s it.
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Those entering as sojourners might be on transit visas, tourist visas, visas for bereavement and family business, visas for touring performers and lecturers, and visas for emergency service personnel. Only those admitted under the last two dispensations are properly cleared to work in this country for the limited time they are present.
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The stock of temporary residents present in the country at any one time should not exceed about 1.5 million. The primary way of regulating the number would be through the issuance of educational visas. Such visas should be distributed via tri-quarterly multiple price auctions. Any school which wishes to admit an eligible foreigner or hire them for a term-limited teaching position (and provide a berth for his dependents) would have to purchase visas at auction or time on a secondary market. Posit visas purchased on a primary market would have a term of seven years and that if the subject left the country early the remaining time would be tossed onto a secondary exchange. The number of visas put up for auction on the primary market every four months would be a function of the total population of temporary residents in the country and the quantum of time in the secondary market. All recipients of an educational visas over the age of 14 should have first passed a proficiency test in English, written and oral.
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The number of settler’s visas issued each year should not exceed about 400,000. Anyone wishing to be placed in the queue for one should have to pass a physical, a cursory background check, and a written and oral examination in English. If you get married while you’re in the queue, your position is adjusted rearward halfway between your current spot and the end; for each child you have, your position is proportionately adjusted. When you’re near the head of the queue, every family member has to submit to a background check and a delay may be imposed if one member of the family has committed a known offense. That aside, you’re clear to enter when every family member over 14 has passed the English proficiency test if they have not done so in the previous four years.
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For any immigrant, the terms and conditions for access to common provision are properly regulated by the work credit compiled by you and / or your head of household if you are a dependent.
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Preventive detention should be the order of the day for any alien accused of an offense more severe than a petty misdemeanor. They can be indemnified if the case is not pursued, or if they are acquitted, or if their eventual sentence exceeds their time in detention. Parole should not be granted to aliens. Rather, they should serve a clipped sentence and then deported for a term of years upon their release. The duration of the term would be contingent on the severity of their supposed offenses, anywhere from a four month time out for a submisdemeanor violation to a lifetime ban for a severe felony.
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Anyone born in the United States should inherit the civil status of their mother unless they are of legitimate birth and their father has a preferred status, in which case they inherit his. Illegal aliens beget illegal aliens, sojourners sojourners, temporary residents, temporary residents, settlers settlers. Only citizens beget citizens.
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In order to be eligible for naturalization, there should be periods in your life when all of the following were true simultaneously: you were a palpable resident of the United States, you were in the country lawfully, you did not have a formal domicile abroad; you were not incarcerated on probation, or parole; and you were not under an order of civil commitment or adult guardianship. These periods should account for the majority of your natural life before you are eligible to take an examination testing your English proficiency and your civic and historical knowledge. The penultimate step should be signing statements in the presence of a notary renouncing your citizenship in each country for which you have a cognizable claim to citizenship, one statement for each country. The last step should be taking an oath of allegiance. NB, seeking the citizenship of a foreign country should be tantamount to forfeiting your American citizenship.
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With some qualification, we would benefit if the bulk of what falls under the heading of anti-discrimination law were repealed. In re immigrants, they should be learning to navigate the social life of their adopted country without calling in the law. Freedom of contract and association should be the order of the day.
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And under no circumstances should anyone not a citizen be permitted to cast a ballot, serve on a jury, hold a law license, or hold a public sector position which would permit them to make arrests or issue citations.
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Our political order is so dysfunctional that actually doing the sensible things is an eschatological idea.

By: Brian E

Brian E — Fri, 19 Jul 2024 00:52:35 +0000

“the Trump administration never stopped illegal immigration but it did a great deal to stop and inflict pain on legal immigration.”-RJW

It’s true he never stopped illegal immigration, since that is impossible. He did significantly reduce the numbers.

As to legal immigration, here are the numbers of Legal Permanent Residents (LPR) by year.
2009 1.13 million
2010 1.04 million
2011 1.06 million
2012 1.06 million
2013 .990 million
2014 1.02 million
2015 1.05 million
2016 1.18 million
2017 1.13 million
2018 1.01 million
2019 1.03 million
2020 .707 million (COVID restrictions)
2021 .704 million
2022 1.09 million

This policy encourages immigration from countries around the world– which is positive for our country and economy. These people immigrating legally are more deserving of a place in our country than those illegally skirting our laws, and the concentration of particular regions which leads to problems with assimilation.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/Annual-Number-of-US-Legal-Permanent-Residents

By: Abraxas

Abraxas — Fri, 19 Jul 2024 00:49:07 +0000

Remain in Mexico probably convinced a lot of people not to make the trek up here, thus saving them from the gangs, cartels and coyotes. It’s also not like many migrants weren’t being “kidnapped, raped, and abused by gangs” on their way here even without the Remain in Mexico policy.