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		By: Linda S Fox		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/07/11/why-are-so-many-democrats-opposed-to-the-save-act/#comment-2750115</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Linda S Fox]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can speak, with some authority, about this.
When I moved from SC to OH, I - eventually - had to change my drivers license. I didn&#039;t anticipate any real difficulty, as I had my passport AND my SC drivers license.
However, in the SC license, it had been mid-coded. I had been, for 10 years, marked as a MALE.
I am by birth, a FEMALE.
So, the clerk kindly pointed out that I needed to bring BOTH an official copy of my birth certificate, and my marriage certificate, and try again.
It took several days, as I had to go in person to the county birth records for the certificate - which cost $34 a copy. The marriage certificate was easier, as the guy I reached at the records office was able to send a copy quickly - no charge.
So, altogether, about 3 days to get it all done.
I must mention that many of the documents were hard to get, as I am 73, and have been married for 50 years. Over time, and with many moves to different cities and states, the originals had been mislaid.
But, still possible. I do think that it would be a great project for some high school (or, even middle school) kids to initiate - the reconciliation of birth and death records. That, alone, would eliminate much of the easy use of dead infants to steal their birth record, and create an &quot;Instant Citizen&quot;.
It would mean that actual PEOPLE (not bots, not mass registrations of non-existent people) would have to go through the process. 
The days when people could not prove their identity are pretty much gone. At SOME point, just about everyone is in contact with official government, and can lay their hands on VERIFIABLE records. Hell, even the Amish register their kids&#039; birth, have them attend school, and register their marriages!
Yeah, there may be some fringe nuts who completely go off the grid, and whose families there is no record of.
Those guys aren&#039;t going to vote anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can speak, with some authority, about this.<br />
When I moved from SC to OH, I &#8211; eventually &#8211; had to change my drivers license. I didn&#8217;t anticipate any real difficulty, as I had my passport AND my SC drivers license.<br />
However, in the SC license, it had been mid-coded. I had been, for 10 years, marked as a MALE.<br />
I am by birth, a FEMALE.<br />
So, the clerk kindly pointed out that I needed to bring BOTH an official copy of my birth certificate, and my marriage certificate, and try again.<br />
It took several days, as I had to go in person to the county birth records for the certificate &#8211; which cost $34 a copy. The marriage certificate was easier, as the guy I reached at the records office was able to send a copy quickly &#8211; no charge.<br />
So, altogether, about 3 days to get it all done.<br />
I must mention that many of the documents were hard to get, as I am 73, and have been married for 50 years. Over time, and with many moves to different cities and states, the originals had been mislaid.<br />
But, still possible. I do think that it would be a great project for some high school (or, even middle school) kids to initiate &#8211; the reconciliation of birth and death records. That, alone, would eliminate much of the easy use of dead infants to steal their birth record, and create an &#8220;Instant Citizen&#8221;.<br />
It would mean that actual PEOPLE (not bots, not mass registrations of non-existent people) would have to go through the process.<br />
The days when people could not prove their identity are pretty much gone. At SOME point, just about everyone is in contact with official government, and can lay their hands on VERIFIABLE records. Hell, even the Amish register their kids&#8217; birth, have them attend school, and register their marriages!<br />
Yeah, there may be some fringe nuts who completely go off the grid, and whose families there is no record of.<br />
Those guys aren&#8217;t going to vote anyway.</p>
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		By: fullmoon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fullmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jul 2024 00:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;In her case, the SAVE Act allows “a final adoption decree showing the applicant’s name and that the applicant’s place of birth was in the United States”, surely California has not lost all its 1960s adoption decree records.&quot;

LOL. In the real world,in the 1960&#039;s, plenty of unwed mothers had babies and gave them to friends or relatives. No records involved. 
No doubt more difficult today.
I made phone caall, wrote letters and went so far as to ask Redditors for advice. Plenty of others have the same problem, not only in California.

Any realistic advice will be greatly appreciated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In her case, the SAVE Act allows “a final adoption decree showing the applicant’s name and that the applicant’s place of birth was in the United States”, surely California has not lost all its 1960s adoption decree records.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL. In the real world,in the 1960&#8217;s, plenty of unwed mothers had babies and gave them to friends or relatives. No records involved.<br />
No doubt more difficult today.<br />
I made phone caall, wrote letters and went so far as to ask Redditors for advice. Plenty of others have the same problem, not only in California.</p>
<p>Any realistic advice will be greatly appreciated.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When TX required birth certificates for drivers&#039; licenses, I called the town in CT where I was born, and found out what I needed to do to get a copy of my birth certificate.  

I sent a check by regular US mail- not certified- and nine days later my birth certificate arrived. Good service from both USPS and the town clerk in CT.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When TX required birth certificates for drivers&#8217; licenses, I called the town in CT where I was born, and found out what I needed to do to get a copy of my birth certificate.  </p>
<p>I sent a check by regular US mail- not certified- and nine days later my birth certificate arrived. Good service from both USPS and the town clerk in CT.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes they pulled that switcharoo, right before 2000, blue was navy and tory colors,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes they pulled that switcharoo, right before 2000, blue was navy and tory colors,</p>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cicero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s please stop it with states being red or blue. Who decided this definition, and why? Because we are stupid? Can&#039;t say Left or Right?
I remind you that RED is the color of Marxist communism. See the flag of communist China, for example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s please stop it with states being red or blue. Who decided this definition, and why? Because we are stupid? Can&#8217;t say Left or Right?<br />
I remind you that RED is the color of Marxist communism. See the flag of communist China, for example: <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg</a></p>
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		By: junior		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[junior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why do you think they oppose?&quot;

Given the numerous rumors I&#039;ve been hearing about illegal aliens being registered to vote by the Feds, I can make a guess...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why do you think they oppose?&#8221;</p>
<p>Given the numerous rumors I&#8217;ve been hearing about illegal aliens being registered to vote by the Feds, I can make a guess&#8230;</p>
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		By: Sgt.+Joe+Friday		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sgt.+Joe+Friday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What the Democrats are doing makes perfect sense if you stop to think about who their constituents are: single women, immigrants (legal or not), LGBT, refugees, government employee unions, wealthy leftists, etc. etc.

The following are NOT Democrat constituencies: married men, married women, single heterosexual men. I&#039;d add private sector union members, but there aren&#039;t that many of them.

The Democrats are simply going where they perceive their voters are, legality or the good of the country be damned. They wrote off the groups I mentioned that are now solidly in the GOP column, so what&#039;s in their interest as far as they see it  is to flood the country with foreigners from the global south in a sort Camp of the Saints moment, scratch the scab of racial and ethnic friction, pit women and men against one another, and encourage sexual deviancy and genital mutilation.

Did I miss anything?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Democrats are doing makes perfect sense if you stop to think about who their constituents are: single women, immigrants (legal or not), LGBT, refugees, government employee unions, wealthy leftists, etc. etc.</p>
<p>The following are NOT Democrat constituencies: married men, married women, single heterosexual men. I&#8217;d add private sector union members, but there aren&#8217;t that many of them.</p>
<p>The Democrats are simply going where they perceive their voters are, legality or the good of the country be damned. They wrote off the groups I mentioned that are now solidly in the GOP column, so what&#8217;s in their interest as far as they see it  is to flood the country with foreigners from the global south in a sort Camp of the Saints moment, scratch the scab of racial and ethnic friction, pit women and men against one another, and encourage sexual deviancy and genital mutilation.</p>
<p>Did I miss anything?</p>
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		By: Molly+Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Molly+Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A Real ID driver&#039;s license should be sufficient.  
Renewed my DL here in Hawaii a few years ago and even though I have had a Hawaii DL for over 40 years, I was told to bring my birth certificate under the new Real ID requirements.  Brought it and my passport but still had to go BACK home to get my Marriage Certificate since the name was different from that on the BC.  90 minutes in traffic!  The lovely young lady at the counter kept my place in line.  Now that&#039;s Aloha.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Real ID driver&#8217;s license should be sufficient.<br />
Renewed my DL here in Hawaii a few years ago and even though I have had a Hawaii DL for over 40 years, I was told to bring my birth certificate under the new Real ID requirements.  Brought it and my passport but still had to go BACK home to get my Marriage Certificate since the name was different from that on the BC.  90 minutes in traffic!  The lovely young lady at the counter kept my place in line.  Now that&#8217;s Aloha.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/07/11/why-are-so-many-democrats-opposed-to-the-save-act/#comment-2749691</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Short version 1: Anything and everything is permitted—including destroying the country—as long as it prevents that orange-haired MAGA-Nazi from winning the election. 

Short version 2: Anything and everything is permitted—including destroying the country—as long as it enables the Democratic Party to gain TOTAL power and PERMANENT control over the country it so fervently wishes to destroy. 

Correlative 1: Insofar as the Law—and the Constitution—are used to protect Trump and stymie the Democratic Party’s quest for TOTAL POWER FOREVER, therefore the Law—and the Constitution—are the Enemies of the People. 

Correlative 2: Insofar as SCOTUS, as it is currently constituted, willfully implements the Law—and the Constitution—therefore SCOTUS is the Enemy of the People…and MUST be dealt with accordingly. 

Any questions?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short version 1: Anything and everything is permitted—including destroying the country—as long as it prevents that orange-haired MAGA-Nazi from winning the election. </p>
<p>Short version 2: Anything and everything is permitted—including destroying the country—as long as it enables the Democratic Party to gain TOTAL power and PERMANENT control over the country it so fervently wishes to destroy. </p>
<p>Correlative 1: Insofar as the Law—and the Constitution—are used to protect Trump and stymie the Democratic Party’s quest for TOTAL POWER FOREVER, therefore the Law—and the Constitution—are the Enemies of the People. </p>
<p>Correlative 2: Insofar as SCOTUS, as it is currently constituted, willfully implements the Law—and the Constitution—therefore SCOTUS is the Enemy of the People…and MUST be dealt with accordingly. </p>
<p>Any questions?</p>
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		By: djf		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[djf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry if this comes across as pedantic, but it is not just illegal aliens who are not entitled to vote. Legal aliens are also noncitizens and not entitled to vote, either. No doubt the Democrats entitled to harvest millions of votes from both groups, mostly without the participation of the supposed &quot;voters&quot; themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if this comes across as pedantic, but it is not just illegal aliens who are not entitled to vote. Legal aliens are also noncitizens and not entitled to vote, either. No doubt the Democrats entitled to harvest millions of votes from both groups, mostly without the participation of the supposed &#8220;voters&#8221; themselves.</p>
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