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		By: HC68		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HC68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 22:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s important to remember something about the SCOTUS:  it&#039;s a committee.  We don&#039;t usually think about it that way, but it&#039;s true, and it shows all the same dynamics.

There&#039;s a cynical saying among Court watchers and some Justices:  &#039;five votes can do anything&#039;.  But here&#039;s the thing about the SCOTUS (or a 3 judge or _en banc_ review panel at the appellate level):  it&#039;s a group.

A single judge at the district court level reaches his conclusion based on his own understanding of the law and the arguments, and with whatever level of personal integrity and intellectual honesty he brings to bear.  He doesn&#039;t have to negotiate with someone else to make a ruling.

But an appeals panel, or the SCOTUS, they have to negotiate.  To reach that five vote majority, arguments get made, countered, debated.  Trade offs happen.  They don&#039;t admit it but everyone knows it&#039;s true, votes get traded within the SCOTUS just as they do the Senate.  &quot;OK, I&#039;ll concur on you interpretation of _United States vs. Jones_ if you&#039;ll refuse to give your support to your fellows on _Smith vs. Smith_.

Politics happens on the SCOTUS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s important to remember something about the SCOTUS:  it&#8217;s a committee.  We don&#8217;t usually think about it that way, but it&#8217;s true, and it shows all the same dynamics.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a cynical saying among Court watchers and some Justices:  &#8216;five votes can do anything&#8217;.  But here&#8217;s the thing about the SCOTUS (or a 3 judge or _en banc_ review panel at the appellate level):  it&#8217;s a group.</p>
<p>A single judge at the district court level reaches his conclusion based on his own understanding of the law and the arguments, and with whatever level of personal integrity and intellectual honesty he brings to bear.  He doesn&#8217;t have to negotiate with someone else to make a ruling.</p>
<p>But an appeals panel, or the SCOTUS, they have to negotiate.  To reach that five vote majority, arguments get made, countered, debated.  Trade offs happen.  They don&#8217;t admit it but everyone knows it&#8217;s true, votes get traded within the SCOTUS just as they do the Senate.  &#8220;OK, I&#8217;ll concur on you interpretation of _United States vs. Jones_ if you&#8217;ll refuse to give your support to your fellows on _Smith vs. Smith_.</p>
<p>Politics happens on the SCOTUS.</p>
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		By: Ray+SoCa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray+SoCa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The homeless ruling is huge!

I’m not sure if there will be any impact in blue cities in the 9th circuit due to local politics. There is a lack of political will to touch homeless in blue area by the local politicians. To much corruption, excuse me, funding for homeless that I’m sure influences local politicians. 

I think la just built a high rise to house homeless around $600k a unit. Near me a motel 6 was purchased to house homeless during Covid, and now it’s being gutted to the studs I’m sure for modifications for long term
Stays for homeless. I’ve read other multi family purchases for homeless also need extensive renovations/ modifications to be suitable for homeless. Which is why so many of them are empty.

May be I’ll be surprised and something positive will happen in the areas I work in Southern California.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The homeless ruling is huge!</p>
<p>I’m not sure if there will be any impact in blue cities in the 9th circuit due to local politics. There is a lack of political will to touch homeless in blue area by the local politicians. To much corruption, excuse me, funding for homeless that I’m sure influences local politicians. </p>
<p>I think la just built a high rise to house homeless around $600k a unit. Near me a motel 6 was purchased to house homeless during Covid, and now it’s being gutted to the studs I’m sure for modifications for long term<br />
Stays for homeless. I’ve read other multi family purchases for homeless also need extensive renovations/ modifications to be suitable for homeless. Which is why so many of them are empty.</p>
<p>May be I’ll be surprised and something positive will happen in the areas I work in Southern California.</p>
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		By: Popo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Popo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jun 2024 11:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[J6 people who only had an obstruction charge will benefit.  But apparently on a plea deal, any other charges can be reinstated (recharged) if the obstruction charge becomes null.  (this is what I heard, not a lawyer)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J6 people who only had an obstruction charge will benefit.  But apparently on a plea deal, any other charges can be reinstated (recharged) if the obstruction charge becomes null.  (this is what I heard, not a lawyer)</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/28/and-then-theres-scotus-on-camping-ordinances-and-interference/#comment-2747519</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2024 23:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good news from the SC! We may be moving back ever so little towards being the representative republic we were designed to be, rather than the centrally-controlled monstrosity we have become.

The Eighth Amendment&#039;s &quot;cruel and unusual&quot; was aimed at the appalling execution method of hanging, drawing, and quartering, which was still in vogue in Britain at that time. Being told not to sleep outside in a public place is not the same at all. And further on the Eighth, surely the prohibition of &quot;excessive fines&quot; applies to the Trump &quot;fraud&quot; case in which no one was defrauded.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news from the SC! We may be moving back ever so little towards being the representative republic we were designed to be, rather than the centrally-controlled monstrosity we have become.</p>
<p>The Eighth Amendment&#8217;s &#8220;cruel and unusual&#8221; was aimed at the appalling execution method of hanging, drawing, and quartering, which was still in vogue in Britain at that time. Being told not to sleep outside in a public place is not the same at all. And further on the Eighth, surely the prohibition of &#8220;excessive fines&#8221; applies to the Trump &#8220;fraud&#8221; case in which no one was defrauded.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2024 21:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes he did

https://x.com/FreeStateWill/status/1806774015014420990]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes he did</p>
<p><a href="https://x.com/FreeStateWill/status/1806774015014420990" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/FreeStateWill/status/1806774015014420990</a></p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2024 21:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On item 2, didn’t some ahole us attorney already threaten if SCOTUS did this they would drag the J6 people back into court with some new charges?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On item 2, didn’t some ahole us attorney already threaten if SCOTUS did this they would drag the J6 people back into court with some new charges?</p>
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		By: SHIREHOME		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/28/and-then-theres-scotus-on-camping-ordinances-and-interference/#comment-2747493</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SHIREHOME]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2024 20:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ACB, seems she is kind of all over the place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACB, seems she is kind of all over the place.</p>
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		By: Gordon Scott		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/28/and-then-theres-scotus-on-camping-ordinances-and-interference/#comment-2747475</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2024 19:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kurt Schlicter called it: &quot;This is the Democrats worst week since Appomattox.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt Schlicter called it: &#8220;This is the Democrats worst week since Appomattox.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Nonapod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nonapod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2024 19:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, the Chevron thing is perhaps the biggest win IMO. A slowing down and even a slight reversing of the creeping power of the both the Executive branch and the administrative state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the Chevron thing is perhaps the biggest win IMO. A slowing down and even a slight reversing of the creeping power of the both the Executive branch and the administrative state.</p>
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		By: Paul+Harmon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/28/and-then-theres-scotus-on-camping-ordinances-and-interference/#comment-2747469</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul+Harmon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2024 19:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Oregon Law being overturned will certainly hit close to home.  Now the citizens can hold their local city councils responsible for trashing all the public spaces, without said council members hiding behind court decisions.  It will cause the insane, leftist councils to be replaced by more reasonable city administrators, and that will go a long way to renewing America.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Oregon Law being overturned will certainly hit close to home.  Now the citizens can hold their local city councils responsible for trashing all the public spaces, without said council members hiding behind court decisions.  It will cause the insane, leftist councils to be replaced by more reasonable city administrators, and that will go a long way to renewing America.</p>
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