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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2024 13:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess THE questions that might be asked are:
How many Gazans were working in Israel before January 2021...and to what extent did that number skyrocket from January 2021 onward.

And WHY?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess THE questions that might be asked are:<br />
How many Gazans were working in Israel before January 2021&#8230;and to what extent did that number skyrocket from January 2021 onward.</p>
<p>And WHY?</p>
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		By: BrooklynBoy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/22/the-betrayal-by-and-of-the-palestinian-workers/#comment-2746621</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrooklynBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2024 12:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I always felt it was suicidal to bring Arab workers into Israel and I was proven right. No good deed goes unpunished. I hope Israel in the future refuses to bring Palestinians into Israel to utilize the superb Israeli medical facilities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always felt it was suicidal to bring Arab workers into Israel and I was proven right. No good deed goes unpunished. I hope Israel in the future refuses to bring Palestinians into Israel to utilize the superb Israeli medical facilities.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/22/the-betrayal-by-and-of-the-palestinian-workers/#comment-2746604</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2024 06:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, yes! The ECONOMIC IMPERATIVE for murdering, raping, disemboweling, incinerating, mutilating, kidnapping, torturing…men, women, children and infants. 

Novel! Creative!! Imaginative! Different! 
Deeep thinking outside the box!!!

I believe you got yerself an ECON textbook here…with a ready-made audience of millions upon millions of avid readers ….

Go for it!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes! The ECONOMIC IMPERATIVE for murdering, raping, disemboweling, incinerating, mutilating, kidnapping, torturing…men, women, children and infants. </p>
<p>Novel! Creative!! Imaginative! Different!<br />
Deeep thinking outside the box!!!</p>
<p>I believe you got yerself an ECON textbook here…with a ready-made audience of millions upon millions of avid readers ….</p>
<p>Go for it!!!</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/22/the-betrayal-by-and-of-the-palestinian-workers/#comment-2746596</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2024 03:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@feral lunch lady:&lt;i&gt;Very soon after Oct. 7, I remember reading that some people in the Israeli government were planning how to resume some work permits.&lt;/i&gt;

Closest thing I found to this was dated &lt;a href=&quot;https://themedialine.org/top-stories/palestinians-contemplate-allowing-some-workers-to-return/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;December 11, 2023:&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Israel’s socioeconomic cabinet, on Sunday, rejected a plan to allow Palestinian workers from the West Bank to resume work in Israel. This was the first time the proposal was discussed since October 7.

The plan to permit some Palestinian workers faced staunch opposition from the far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, who heads the socioeconomic cabinet. Smotrich stated that, aside from Agriculture Minister Avi Dichter, who abstained from the vote, his 15-member cabinet voted against advancing the proposal.

“We can and must advance alternatives that will provide a different solution to the economy,” Smotrich said in a statement, adding, “Whoever killed us when there was no money will kill us also when there is money. The security of the citizens of Israel comes first.”

&lt;b&gt;Representatives from the Israel Defense Forces, the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories, and the Shin Bet all reportedly expressed support for allowing West Bank Palestinians to return to work in Israel&lt;/b&gt;, while Israel Police delegates reportedly opposed the idea.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, at least they weren&#039;t thinking of letting Gazans back in but it&#039;s hard to see how it&#039;s better to let in West Bank Palestinians.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@feral lunch lady:<i>Very soon after Oct. 7, I remember reading that some people in the Israeli government were planning how to resume some work permits.</i></p>
<p>Closest thing I found to this was dated <a href="https://themedialine.org/top-stories/palestinians-contemplate-allowing-some-workers-to-return/" rel="nofollow ugc">December 11, 2023:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Israel’s socioeconomic cabinet, on Sunday, rejected a plan to allow Palestinian workers from the West Bank to resume work in Israel. This was the first time the proposal was discussed since October 7.</p>
<p>The plan to permit some Palestinian workers faced staunch opposition from the far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, who heads the socioeconomic cabinet. Smotrich stated that, aside from Agriculture Minister Avi Dichter, who abstained from the vote, his 15-member cabinet voted against advancing the proposal.</p>
<p>“We can and must advance alternatives that will provide a different solution to the economy,” Smotrich said in a statement, adding, “Whoever killed us when there was no money will kill us also when there is money. The security of the citizens of Israel comes first.”</p>
<p><b>Representatives from the Israel Defense Forces, the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories, and the Shin Bet all reportedly expressed support for allowing West Bank Palestinians to return to work in Israel</b>, while Israel Police delegates reportedly opposed the idea.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, at least they weren&#8217;t thinking of letting Gazans back in but it&#8217;s hard to see how it&#8217;s better to let in West Bank Palestinians.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/22/the-betrayal-by-and-of-the-palestinian-workers/#comment-2746572</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2024 23:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Chases Eagles:&lt;i&gt;It is my understanding that Israel has a labor shortage...&lt;/i&gt;

i. e., hiring Israelis costs more than Israeli employers wish to pay. That&#039;s what a &quot;labor shortage&quot; is, unless it&#039;s for trades or professions where skills take years to acquire. But it wasn&#039;t neurosurgery, it was tourism, agriculture, construction, just like here in the US.

@neo:&lt;i&gt;Do you really think Israelis are or were unaware of the pathologies...&lt;/i&gt;

No, I have no doubt they were aware, but unless they were paying Gazans at parity with Israelis I&#039;m afraid that there was probably a less noble economic motive also at work, and let&#039;s hope the mistake is not made again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chases Eagles:<i>It is my understanding that Israel has a labor shortage&#8230;</i></p>
<p>i. e., hiring Israelis costs more than Israeli employers wish to pay. That&#8217;s what a &#8220;labor shortage&#8221; is, unless it&#8217;s for trades or professions where skills take years to acquire. But it wasn&#8217;t neurosurgery, it was tourism, agriculture, construction, just like here in the US.</p>
<p>@neo:<i>Do you really think Israelis are or were unaware of the pathologies&#8230;</i></p>
<p>No, I have no doubt they were aware, but unless they were paying Gazans at parity with Israelis I&#8217;m afraid that there was probably a less noble economic motive also at work, and let&#8217;s hope the mistake is not made again.</p>
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		By: Philip Sells		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Sells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2024 22:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This I take as a curious coincidence, but as this thread has been developing, it just happens that I&#039;ve been reading Brands&#039; biography of Franklin, and just now came across a passage therein which describes some of the atrocities in western Pennsylvania after the disaster of Braddock&#039;s campaign:
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The autumn of 1755 brought regular reports of the terror on the frontier. [... brief references to massacres, kidnappings, beheadings, etc. by the Delaware warlord Shingas especially ...] That the terror was inflicted by recent allies made it all the more terrible. Franklin&#039;s friend John Bartram recounted his backcountry informants&#039; assertion that &quot;most of the Indians which are so cruel are such as was almost daily familiar at their houses: ate, drank &#038; swore together, was even intimate play mates. And now without any provocation destroyeth all before them with fire, ball &#038; tomahawk.&quot; [...]&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This is mentioned in the context of a French officer&#039;s having turned the tribes that had been recently loyal to the English against the latter.

While this narrative was set in the context of the wars between France and England over control of the Ohio Valley in the eighteenth century, it really does seem to me to map fairly well to some of what we have been talking about here concerning Gaza and southern Israel of late. Not exactly analogous, of course, but the parallels are striking, particularly in the cruelty of the respective raids.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This I take as a curious coincidence, but as this thread has been developing, it just happens that I&#8217;ve been reading Brands&#8217; biography of Franklin, and just now came across a passage therein which describes some of the atrocities in western Pennsylvania after the disaster of Braddock&#8217;s campaign:</p>
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The autumn of 1755 brought regular reports of the terror on the frontier. [&#8230; brief references to massacres, kidnappings, beheadings, etc. by the Delaware warlord Shingas especially &#8230;] That the terror was inflicted by recent allies made it all the more terrible. Franklin&#8217;s friend John Bartram recounted his backcountry informants&#8217; assertion that &#8220;most of the Indians which are so cruel are such as was almost daily familiar at their houses: ate, drank &amp; swore together, was even intimate play mates. And now without any provocation destroyeth all before them with fire, ball &amp; tomahawk.&#8221; [&#8230;]</p></blockquote>
<p>This is mentioned in the context of a French officer&#8217;s having turned the tribes that had been recently loyal to the English against the latter.</p>
<p>While this narrative was set in the context of the wars between France and England over control of the Ohio Valley in the eighteenth century, it really does seem to me to map fairly well to some of what we have been talking about here concerning Gaza and southern Israel of late. Not exactly analogous, of course, but the parallels are striking, particularly in the cruelty of the respective raids.</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/22/the-betrayal-by-and-of-the-palestinian-workers/#comment-2746563</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2024 22:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates,
It is my understanding that Israel has a labor shortage, thus all the foreign workers murdered by Gazans last October.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niketas Choniates,<br />
It is my understanding that Israel has a labor shortage, thus all the foreign workers murdered by Gazans last October.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/22/the-betrayal-by-and-of-the-palestinian-workers/#comment-2746561</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2024 22:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Methinks that your second sentence rather contradicts the first.

As for wrong theories, well, wishful thinking can do that....

(Of course it made---MAKES---SOOO much sense. It was---IS---so reasonable...But ONLY when/if one forgets, or denies---or wishes away---the enduring, implacable goal of one&#039;s Partner in Peace(TM)...)

File under: &quot;If you build it they will come....&quot;(?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methinks that your second sentence rather contradicts the first.</p>
<p>As for wrong theories, well, wishful thinking can do that&#8230;.</p>
<p>(Of course it made&#8212;MAKES&#8212;SOOO much sense. It was&#8212;IS&#8212;so reasonable&#8230;But ONLY when/if one forgets, or denies&#8212;or wishes away&#8212;the enduring, implacable goal of one&#8217;s Partner in Peace(TM)&#8230;)</p>
<p>File under: &#8220;If you build it they will come&#8230;.&#8221;(?)</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2024 22:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates:

Do you really think Israelis are or were unaware of the pathologies  - in particular, Jew-hatred - so common in Palestinian societies?  They hired these people with the idea that economic improvement would help cause societal/cultural improvement.  The theory turned out to be wrong, but that was the theory.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niketas Choniates:</p>
<p>Do you really think Israelis are or were unaware of the pathologies  &#8211; in particular, Jew-hatred &#8211; so common in Palestinian societies?  They hired these people with the idea that economic improvement would help cause societal/cultural improvement.  The theory turned out to be wrong, but that was the theory.</p>
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		By: Gordon Scott		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2024 21:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is one example of Germans working in the US during the war. I have a friend whose father controlled a lot of land near Ruidoso, NM. They are Mescalero Apache. With all the young men away in the military, there was no one to help round up the cattle scattered in the valleys. 

At nearby Fort Stanton, German merchant marine crews were interned. Not exactly prisoners, but restricted in movement. Her father approached these Germans: could any of them ride? 

Well even those who couldn&#039;t would lie and say yes, because participation in a cattle roundup will get drinks bought for you for decades. Plus, I&#039;m sure they were bored. Given a few days of training, 18 greenhorn cowboys were born. They did the job, bringing all the cattle and calves to the summer pastures.

I&#039;ve seen the picture of them. The Lincoln County Historical Society was able to identify all of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one example of Germans working in the US during the war. I have a friend whose father controlled a lot of land near Ruidoso, NM. They are Mescalero Apache. With all the young men away in the military, there was no one to help round up the cattle scattered in the valleys. </p>
<p>At nearby Fort Stanton, German merchant marine crews were interned. Not exactly prisoners, but restricted in movement. Her father approached these Germans: could any of them ride? </p>
<p>Well even those who couldn&#8217;t would lie and say yes, because participation in a cattle roundup will get drinks bought for you for decades. Plus, I&#8217;m sure they were bored. Given a few days of training, 18 greenhorn cowboys were born. They did the job, bringing all the cattle and calves to the summer pastures.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen the picture of them. The Lincoln County Historical Society was able to identify all of them.</p>
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