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		By: n.n		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/13/scotus-on-the-abortion-pill/#comment-2745089</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[The religious (i.e. behavior protocol or model) argument of social conservatives is based on the ancient and modern performance of human rites for social, clinical, criminal, political, and climate progress and profit. 

Keep women affordable, available, reusable, taxable, and the &quot;burden&quot; of evidence sequestered in darkness. 

That said, six weeks until legal viability (i.e. coherent nervous system activity) in all 50 states. #NoJudgment #NoLabels #NoContortionistsFetes #BabyLM]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The religious (i.e. behavior protocol or model) argument of social conservatives is based on the ancient and modern performance of human rites for social, clinical, criminal, political, and climate progress and profit. </p>
<p>Keep women affordable, available, reusable, taxable, and the &#8220;burden&#8221; of evidence sequestered in darkness. </p>
<p>That said, six weeks until legal viability (i.e. coherent nervous system activity) in all 50 states. #NoJudgment #NoLabels #NoContortionistsFetes #BabyLM</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/13/scotus-on-the-abortion-pill/#comment-2745088</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 15:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The concern of the plaintiffs is the medical care and forward-looking viability of the mother, first, and the child, second.  The abortion cocktail has two actions: starve and evict the child, where one or both may be defective and cause, but not limited to: hemorrhaging, ectopic pregnancy. Consult with your gynecologist before any attempted abortion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concern of the plaintiffs is the medical care and forward-looking viability of the mother, first, and the child, second.  The abortion cocktail has two actions: starve and evict the child, where one or both may be defective and cause, but not limited to: hemorrhaging, ectopic pregnancy. Consult with your gynecologist before any attempted abortion.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 12:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blackmun made up this right to murder out of whole cloth, for reasons as wàs the thanatos cult this death wish among the west 

Have we forgotten the dalkon shield or thalidomide the possible malfeasance of parties is rather vast

And we seque to chimera and abomination obergefell because they hate biology and sanity and bobs your uncle]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blackmun made up this right to murder out of whole cloth, for reasons as wàs the thanatos cult this death wish among the west </p>
<p>Have we forgotten the dalkon shield or thalidomide the possible malfeasance of parties is rather vast</p>
<p>And we seque to chimera and abomination obergefell because they hate biology and sanity and bobs your uncle</p>
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		By: Mike Plaiss		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Plaiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 11:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R2L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 04:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OBH, I agree with you in general, but it seems to me most discussions of &quot;natural law&quot; end up sneaking in concepts of God, revelation, absolute instead of relative, soul, and other semi-religious and &quot;self evident&quot; (essentially axiomatic) ideas. At least most versions are oriented to our Western Judeo-Christian history. Natural law is seldom addressed from the perspective of evolutionary psychology and our evolved mental states (or companion neuroscience).  Also, of course civil law was derived from studies of Roman Law, and development of cannon law when the pope became supreme ruler over souls (1057AD?), and the success of cannon law led secular leaders to adjust it for non-religious uses in turn. These ideas were more widely spread with the creation of universities starting around 1188 and later, then the printing press, etc. The Renaissance and the Enlightenment brought us to our current state of a republican constitutional democracy (at least in theory). 

How do we move the law to a position where it will give standing to the potential person gestating in the womb?  I gather, following PM Thatcher, we have to win the argument first, and then we can obtain the votes. Given the divide in our country on several ideological fronts and issues, that will not be easy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBH, I agree with you in general, but it seems to me most discussions of &#8220;natural law&#8221; end up sneaking in concepts of God, revelation, absolute instead of relative, soul, and other semi-religious and &#8220;self evident&#8221; (essentially axiomatic) ideas. At least most versions are oriented to our Western Judeo-Christian history. Natural law is seldom addressed from the perspective of evolutionary psychology and our evolved mental states (or companion neuroscience).  Also, of course civil law was derived from studies of Roman Law, and development of cannon law when the pope became supreme ruler over souls (1057AD?), and the success of cannon law led secular leaders to adjust it for non-religious uses in turn. These ideas were more widely spread with the creation of universities starting around 1188 and later, then the printing press, etc. The Renaissance and the Enlightenment brought us to our current state of a republican constitutional democracy (at least in theory). </p>
<p>How do we move the law to a position where it will give standing to the potential person gestating in the womb?  I gather, following PM Thatcher, we have to win the argument first, and then we can obtain the votes. Given the divide in our country on several ideological fronts and issues, that will not be easy.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 03:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And where exactly does the law come from if I may so &lt;b&gt;boldly&lt;/b&gt; ask?  Something about a culture and society IIRC, some being better than others nontheless.

Standing has proven to be quite flexible in the last four years so this case may have been particularly weak and yet it went all the way up the chain.


Put not your faith in kings, or chariots, or judges(?).  There is a Biblical citation to that effect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And where exactly does the law come from if I may so <b>boldly</b> ask?  Something about a culture and society IIRC, some being better than others nontheless.</p>
<p>Standing has proven to be quite flexible in the last four years so this case may have been particularly weak and yet it went all the way up the chain.</p>
<p>Put not your faith in kings, or chariots, or judges(?).  There is a Biblical citation to that effect.</p>
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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/13/scotus-on-the-abortion-pill/#comment-2745017</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ObloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 01:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not a big fan of this kind of challenges. They key on -- &lt;i&gt;rely on&lt;/i&gt; -- far too much upon religious interpretations to justify their actions. 

&lt;b&gt;Religion is not, and should never be, a basis for The Law.&lt;/b&gt;

And if you try and say it should, grasp this: You are opening the door for Islam to demand Sharia Law be the law they operate under.

No. &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;HELL NO&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

If you cannot justify a position simply by the notions of &quot;natural law&quot;, rather than using Jesus and the Bible for cause, then you are not only wrong, you&#039;re being STUPID to support it being LAW. 

This doesn&#039;t mean you cannot use peer pressure to push behavior in a given direction. It just means you should not  be using LAW to do the job.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a big fan of this kind of challenges. They key on &#8212; <i>rely on</i> &#8212; far too much upon religious interpretations to justify their actions. </p>
<p><b>Religion is not, and should never be, a basis for The Law.</b></p>
<p>And if you try and say it should, grasp this: You are opening the door for Islam to demand Sharia Law be the law they operate under.</p>
<p>No. <b><i>HELL NO</i></b></p>
<p>If you cannot justify a position simply by the notions of &#8220;natural law&#8221;, rather than using Jesus and the Bible for cause, then you are not only wrong, you&#8217;re being STUPID to support it being LAW. </p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean you cannot use peer pressure to push behavior in a given direction. It just means you should not  be using LAW to do the job.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/13/scotus-on-the-abortion-pill/#comment-2744988</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2024 22:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good to know we are standing on the promises of Christ our savior.

Not the courts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to know we are standing on the promises of Christ our savior.</p>
<p>Not the courts.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/06/13/scotus-on-the-abortion-pill/#comment-2744974</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2024 20:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Plaintiffs probably need to find a woman who used the drug and was injured for standing to sue. Shouldn&#039;t be hard to find.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plaintiffs probably need to find a woman who used the drug and was injured for standing to sue. Shouldn&#8217;t be hard to find.</p>
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