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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/05/28/open-thread-5-28-24/#comment-2742640</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jun 2024 03:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RigelDog:

You&#039;re welcome!

I was very moved by it, too.  I had fertility problems and when I finally got pregnant and had a son I was very happy, and &quot;Danny&#039;s Song&quot; was something I sometimes listened to with pleasure.  Now I&#039;m a grandmother.  So I know what you mean.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RigelDog:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome!</p>
<p>I was very moved by it, too.  I had fertility problems and when I finally got pregnant and had a son I was very happy, and &#8220;Danny&#8217;s Song&#8221; was something I sometimes listened to with pleasure.  Now I&#8217;m a grandmother.  So I know what you mean.</p>
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		By: RigelDog		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/05/28/open-thread-5-28-24/#comment-2742576</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 May 2024 20:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the Danny&#039;s song clip, Neo. Hearing it, I was suddenly sixteen again and singing along on a memorable road trip to check out Case Western Reserve college. Then learning the back story from Kenny, and his recent added verse on the occasion of the birth of his granddaughter, I am in tears over the circle coming around again as our daughter awaits the birth of her daughter next month...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the Danny&#8217;s song clip, Neo. Hearing it, I was suddenly sixteen again and singing along on a memorable road trip to check out Case Western Reserve college. Then learning the back story from Kenny, and his recent added verse on the occasion of the birth of his granddaughter, I am in tears over the circle coming around again as our daughter awaits the birth of her daughter next month&#8230;</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/05/28/open-thread-5-28-24/#comment-2742059</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 17:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BrooklynBoy:

Rick Beato has taken some pains to note that Taylor Swift and many other popular acts employ committees of top-flight pros to write their music. Sure, Swift is a real talent of her own and she guides the process. But...

It&#039;s not like John and Paul breaking out their guitars to get a song started, then George and Ringo coming in to put it all together. Or George getting the ball rolling as he came in to his own as a songwriter.

&lt;i&gt;--Rick Beato, &quot;NYT Says Taylor Swift Is Bigger Than The Beatles!? WTF&quot;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxrwjJHXPlQ&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BrooklynBoy:</p>
<p>Rick Beato has taken some pains to note that Taylor Swift and many other popular acts employ committees of top-flight pros to write their music. Sure, Swift is a real talent of her own and she guides the process. But&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like John and Paul breaking out their guitars to get a song started, then George and Ringo coming in to put it all together. Or George getting the ball rolling as he came in to his own as a songwriter.</p>
<p><i>&#8211;Rick Beato, &#8220;NYT Says Taylor Swift Is Bigger Than The Beatles!? WTF&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxrwjJHXPlQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxrwjJHXPlQ</a></i></p>
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		By: BrooklynBoy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/05/28/open-thread-5-28-24/#comment-2742016</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 09:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back in the days of the 1970s when people wrote really good songs instead of this Taylor Swift nonsense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the days of the 1970s when people wrote really good songs instead of this Taylor Swift nonsense.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/05/28/open-thread-5-28-24/#comment-2741992</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 03:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Andy Edwards / Emerson, Lake &#038; Palmer Albums -- Ranked

I love this prog drummer/rock critic guy! The thing to keep in mind, I say, is that Edwards is a YouTube performer -- a stand-up critic, working mostly in real-time like a great college prof with more leeway to cover the subject he loves most, personally and professionally.

Edwards is all about prog rock, passionately. So now he&#039;s got a YouTube channel, insatiable for content (neo knows about this, I&#039;m sure) and he decides to cover Emerson, Lake &#038; Palmer -- ELP as fans know.

Problem: He hated ELP! But he is an honest critic. He relistened to all the ELP albums and concluded:
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&lt;i&gt;... coming to this from a more mature point of view &lt;b&gt;I&#039;ve been able to see the absolute genius of this band.&lt;/b&gt;

--Andy Edwards, &quot;ELP &#124; Ranking the Albums&quot;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuGTSaW5bLg&lt;/i&gt;
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Which of course is his opinion, revised upon an earlier opinion. I enjoy the fierce back-and-forth of Edward&#039;s internal development.

I don&#039;t demand people change their minds, but I like to see it happen organically.

I too am passionate about ELP. I was in a sweat about the final top rankings, but I think Edwards got it right:

1) &quot;Emerson, Lake &#038; Palmer&quot; (1970)
2) &quot;Trilogy&quot; (1972)

FWIW....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Andy Edwards / Emerson, Lake &amp; Palmer Albums &#8212; Ranked</p>
<p>I love this prog drummer/rock critic guy! The thing to keep in mind, I say, is that Edwards is a YouTube performer &#8212; a stand-up critic, working mostly in real-time like a great college prof with more leeway to cover the subject he loves most, personally and professionally.</p>
<p>Edwards is all about prog rock, passionately. So now he&#8217;s got a YouTube channel, insatiable for content (neo knows about this, I&#8217;m sure) and he decides to cover Emerson, Lake &amp; Palmer &#8212; ELP as fans know.</p>
<p>Problem: He hated ELP! But he is an honest critic. He relistened to all the ELP albums and concluded:<br />
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<p><i>&#8230; coming to this from a more mature point of view <b>I&#8217;ve been able to see the absolute genius of this band.</b></p>
<p>&#8211;Andy Edwards, &#8220;ELP | Ranking the Albums&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuGTSaW5bLg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuGTSaW5bLg</a></i><br />
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<p>Which of course is his opinion, revised upon an earlier opinion. I enjoy the fierce back-and-forth of Edward&#8217;s internal development.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t demand people change their minds, but I like to see it happen organically.</p>
<p>I too am passionate about ELP. I was in a sweat about the final top rankings, but I think Edwards got it right:</p>
<p>1) &#8220;Emerson, Lake &amp; Palmer&#8221; (1970)<br />
2) &#8220;Trilogy&#8221; (1972)</p>
<p>FWIW&#8230;.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/05/28/open-thread-5-28-24/#comment-2741990</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 02:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;On the “Good Trouble Show” the other day lawyer, Ivan Hannel, gave a good analogy to the current situation with regard to &lt;b&gt;people not wanting to admit to the weight of the evidence pointing to the reality of UFOs.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

Snow on Pine:

I&#039;m certain there is much more to the UFO story than we are getting. Still, please stop the onus-shifting.

Are you one of those people not wanting to admit to the weight of the evidence pointing to the reality of Jesus Christ?

I&#039;m not half-serious... :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>On the “Good Trouble Show” the other day lawyer, Ivan Hannel, gave a good analogy to the current situation with regard to <b>people not wanting to admit to the weight of the evidence pointing to the reality of UFOs.</b></i></p>
<p>Snow on Pine:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certain there is much more to the UFO story than we are getting. Still, please stop the onus-shifting.</p>
<p>Are you one of those people not wanting to admit to the weight of the evidence pointing to the reality of Jesus Christ?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not half-serious&#8230; 🙂</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/05/28/open-thread-5-28-24/#comment-2741986</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 01:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[om:

Please stop baiting people.  I don&#039;t mind substantive arguments, but I&#039;m getting tired of the sniping.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>om:</p>
<p>Please stop baiting people.  I don&#8217;t mind substantive arguments, but I&#8217;m getting tired of the sniping.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/05/28/open-thread-5-28-24/#comment-2741985</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 01:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Honesty from the apologist.  LOL

And Niketas spinning his tails. If you are misunderstood and can&#039;t be bothered to clear up the misunderstanding, who is to blame? 

Bain E and Niketas C. the dynamic duo, protectors of truth, as they see it.

Niketas may not have been around in the good old days of Zaphod and DNW?  Oh well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honesty from the apologist.  LOL</p>
<p>And Niketas spinning his tails. If you are misunderstood and can&#8217;t be bothered to clear up the misunderstanding, who is to blame? </p>
<p>Bain E and Niketas C. the dynamic duo, protectors of truth, as they see it.</p>
<p>Niketas may not have been around in the good old days of Zaphod and DNW?  Oh well.</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 00:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Niketas C., I understand the impulse to just ignore om&#039;s snark, but I hope you occasionally respond to keep om honest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niketas C., I understand the impulse to just ignore om&#8217;s snark, but I hope you occasionally respond to keep om honest.</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/05/28/open-thread-5-28-24/#comment-2741978</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 00:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the reasons I recommend people watch Vivek&#039;s speech and debate/conversation afterwards is it puts what he talks about in perspective.
He knows the people and was at ease.

Vivek will no doubt have a role in a Trump administration. 

I&#039;ve said previously the fact Trump&#039;s wealth was made in the real estate industry is significant. Going back an election, Romney made it clear that those who made their wealth from Wall St. would find it hard to represent the rust belt/average working class. 
There are probably some that would recognize the need to protect industries that are vital to our national interests-- and we are seeing the consequences of outsourcing for the last 30 years. But some/most of those same people should have recognized the risk/costs earlier-- but the profits were likely irresistible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons I recommend people watch Vivek&#8217;s speech and debate/conversation afterwards is it puts what he talks about in perspective.<br />
He knows the people and was at ease.</p>
<p>Vivek will no doubt have a role in a Trump administration. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said previously the fact Trump&#8217;s wealth was made in the real estate industry is significant. Going back an election, Romney made it clear that those who made their wealth from Wall St. would find it hard to represent the rust belt/average working class.<br />
There are probably some that would recognize the need to protect industries that are vital to our national interests&#8211; and we are seeing the consequences of outsourcing for the last 30 years. But some/most of those same people should have recognized the risk/costs earlier&#8211; but the profits were likely irresistible.</p>
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