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		By: Cornflour		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warning:  this comment is about ninety degrees off-topic.  Worse yet, it&#039;s going to encourage the same things from others.

In this post, Neo didn&#039;t explicitly poll her readers, but I&#039;m among those who appreciate both the quality and quantity of her posts on the war between Israel and Hamas/Iran.

Having said that, I&#039;m going to pretend that Neo asked a different question, one that&#039;s barely related.  Is there a general topic that you wish Neo would write more about?  This has to be a realistic suggestion.  For example, I&#039;m a long-time basketball fan.  Except for the possibilty of naive comedy, I wouldn&#039;t look to Neo for posts on basketball.

But what about asking for more posts on the social consequences of chatbots, AI, and LLM&#039;s?  Some people here are obviously interested, but it&#039;s not Neo&#039;s expertise.  So what would be a realistic request?  US relations with China?  Illegal immigration?  Political consequences of economic policy?  Fashion and culture--high and low?  Social psychology and politics?  Population genetics and historical change?

Even more off-topic, if there&#039;s something you like reading about, but it&#039;s not a realistic topic for Neo, where do you read about it online?

Thanks.

P.S.  If I&#039;ve opened an unwelcome can of worms, I wouldn&#039;t be offended if Neo deleted this comment.  In fact, I&#039;m very close to not clicking on the &quot;post comment&quot; button.  Not sure this is a good idea, but I&#039;m curious.

P.P.S.  I probably won&#039;t reply to anyone who takes the time to comment.  I&#039;d rather not start any wrangling.  Just want to know what people think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warning:  this comment is about ninety degrees off-topic.  Worse yet, it&#8217;s going to encourage the same things from others.</p>
<p>In this post, Neo didn&#8217;t explicitly poll her readers, but I&#8217;m among those who appreciate both the quality and quantity of her posts on the war between Israel and Hamas/Iran.</p>
<p>Having said that, I&#8217;m going to pretend that Neo asked a different question, one that&#8217;s barely related.  Is there a general topic that you wish Neo would write more about?  This has to be a realistic suggestion.  For example, I&#8217;m a long-time basketball fan.  Except for the possibilty of naive comedy, I wouldn&#8217;t look to Neo for posts on basketball.</p>
<p>But what about asking for more posts on the social consequences of chatbots, AI, and LLM&#8217;s?  Some people here are obviously interested, but it&#8217;s not Neo&#8217;s expertise.  So what would be a realistic request?  US relations with China?  Illegal immigration?  Political consequences of economic policy?  Fashion and culture&#8211;high and low?  Social psychology and politics?  Population genetics and historical change?</p>
<p>Even more off-topic, if there&#8217;s something you like reading about, but it&#8217;s not a realistic topic for Neo, where do you read about it online?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>P.S.  If I&#8217;ve opened an unwelcome can of worms, I wouldn&#8217;t be offended if Neo deleted this comment.  In fact, I&#8217;m very close to not clicking on the &#8220;post comment&#8221; button.  Not sure this is a good idea, but I&#8217;m curious.</p>
<p>P.P.S.  I probably won&#8217;t reply to anyone who takes the time to comment.  I&#8217;d rather not start any wrangling.  Just want to know what people think.</p>
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		By: LeClerc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LeClerc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2024 14:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Israeli war against Iran and its proxies is the most important event of our time.

Israel is the vanguard of Western Civilization.

Hopefully, Biden will be flushed down the toilet bowl of history.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Israeli war against Iran and its proxies is the most important event of our time.</p>
<p>Israel is the vanguard of Western Civilization.</p>
<p>Hopefully, Biden will be flushed down the toilet bowl of history.</p>
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		By: Skip		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2024 08:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My view is Barky was a Muslim, but Marxism is his new religion.  But he certainly has a soft spot in his heart for it.

My opinion of Ukraine is free or Russian doesn&#039;t really make a bit of difference to us]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My view is Barky was a Muslim, but Marxism is his new religion.  But he certainly has a soft spot in his heart for it.</p>
<p>My opinion of Ukraine is free or Russian doesn&#8217;t really make a bit of difference to us</p>
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		By: Oldflyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2024 05:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well Neo I too am obsessed with Israel vs Hamas if that is a fair characterization.

To me it has become something like a defining moment in the eternal moral tug of war.

Sadly, as is so often the case, those who think with moral clarity seem to be disengaged, while the morally corrupt (I mean that) are so vocal and visible.

I also feel strongly about Ukraine.  I have noted that there are shifting themes that suggest that &quot;maybe Russia was justified&quot;, and &quot;Ukraine is corrupt&quot;, etc.  I suppose the people who mouth such foolishness, are the same sort who said, &quot;well, Hitler should be excused for  annexing Austria&quot;,  and so on.

I can almost foresee the equivocation after China invades Taiwan.

There are, of course, plenty of worries about the breakdown of our own society.  &quot;Gradually, then suddenly&quot; paraphrases an old adage about how transformative   change occurs.   We seem to be a step or two away from &quot;suddenly&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Neo I too am obsessed with Israel vs Hamas if that is a fair characterization.</p>
<p>To me it has become something like a defining moment in the eternal moral tug of war.</p>
<p>Sadly, as is so often the case, those who think with moral clarity seem to be disengaged, while the morally corrupt (I mean that) are so vocal and visible.</p>
<p>I also feel strongly about Ukraine.  I have noted that there are shifting themes that suggest that &#8220;maybe Russia was justified&#8221;, and &#8220;Ukraine is corrupt&#8221;, etc.  I suppose the people who mouth such foolishness, are the same sort who said, &#8220;well, Hitler should be excused for  annexing Austria&#8221;,  and so on.</p>
<p>I can almost foresee the equivocation after China invades Taiwan.</p>
<p>There are, of course, plenty of worries about the breakdown of our own society.  &#8220;Gradually, then suddenly&#8221; paraphrases an old adage about how transformative   change occurs.   We seem to be a step or two away from &#8220;suddenly&#8221;.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2024 04:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In 1993 I was hopeful that the world would become more peaceful due to the end of the Cold War.  Foolish me.

After 9/11 I even believed that the &quot;Pentagon&#039;s New Map&quot;  https://th.bing.com/th?id=OIP.CHhUqd-xTXWsnY36BeDDuQHaLM&#038;w=203&#038;h=307&#038;c=8&#038;rs=1&#038;qlt=90&#038;o=6&#038;dpr=2.2&#038;pid=3.1&#038;rm=2 was a possible strategy to bring the lesser developed countries into the modern world. Foolish me.

What has transpired since 1993 is that the authoritarian regimes -China, Russia, North Korea,
 Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, and many smaller dictatorships - have become more aggressive, more willing to stand against the democracies. It&#039;s clear that they view democracies as threats to their survival and/or ambitions.  

They aren&#039;t formally allied, but they do agree that they don&#039;t like the U.S. and its main allies.  

More of them are acting in concert against the West in whatever ways they can. Weakness and indecision are an invitation to these sorts of governments.  IMO, if the leaders of the Free World don&#039;t soon wake up to this and begin to rebuild the military and financial strengths of the democracies, major war lies ahead.  

And that&#039;s why I don&#039;t mind reading a lot about Israel and Palestine because they are part of the big picture that needs to be understood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1993 I was hopeful that the world would become more peaceful due to the end of the Cold War.  Foolish me.</p>
<p>After 9/11 I even believed that the &#8220;Pentagon&#8217;s New Map&#8221;  <a href="https://th.bing.com/th?id=OIP.CHhUqd-xTXWsnY36BeDDuQHaLM&#038;w=203&#038;h=307&#038;c=8&#038;rs=1&#038;qlt=90&#038;o=6&#038;dpr=2.2&#038;pid=3.1&#038;rm=2" rel="nofollow ugc">https://th.bing.com/th?id=OIP.CHhUqd-xTXWsnY36BeDDuQHaLM&#038;w=203&#038;h=307&#038;c=8&#038;rs=1&#038;qlt=90&#038;o=6&#038;dpr=2.2&#038;pid=3.1&#038;rm=2</a> was a possible strategy to bring the lesser developed countries into the modern world. Foolish me.</p>
<p>What has transpired since 1993 is that the authoritarian regimes -China, Russia, North Korea,<br />
 Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, and many smaller dictatorships &#8211; have become more aggressive, more willing to stand against the democracies. It&#8217;s clear that they view democracies as threats to their survival and/or ambitions.  </p>
<p>They aren&#8217;t formally allied, but they do agree that they don&#8217;t like the U.S. and its main allies.  </p>
<p>More of them are acting in concert against the West in whatever ways they can. Weakness and indecision are an invitation to these sorts of governments.  IMO, if the leaders of the Free World don&#8217;t soon wake up to this and begin to rebuild the military and financial strengths of the democracies, major war lies ahead.  </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t mind reading a lot about Israel and Palestine because they are part of the big picture that needs to be understood.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2024 03:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Report: Senior US officials held indirect talks with Iran in Oman this week to avoid Mideast escalation&lt;/b&gt;: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-senior-us-officials-held-indirect-talks-with-iran-in-oman-this-week-to-avoid-mideast-escalation/

&lt;blockquote&gt;Two senior American officials held indirect meeting with Iranian officials in Oman this week in an effort to avoid a regional escalation, according to the Axios news site.

The talks focused on “clarifying the consequences of actions by Iran and its proxies in the region and to discuss US concerns regarding the status of Iran’s nuclear program,” according to two sources quoted in the report.

A government official confirms to the Times of Israel that White House Middle East czar Brett McGurk and special envoy on Iran Abram Paley were in Oman this week for the talks.

McGurk was also in Saudi Arabia this week, according to the same official.

Axios says it was unclear who represented Iran at the Oman talks and there was no official statement from either country.

The talks come after Iranian threats in recent weeks that Tehran will change its doctrine on nuclear weapons — currently banned under a fatwa by Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei — if its existence is threatened by Israel.

Similar talks were held between the United States and Iran in Oman January, when reportedly Tehran asked the Biden administration to secure a ceasefire in ongoing Gaza war while Washington pressed the Islamic Republic to curb attacks by its proxies  &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pathetic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Report: Senior US officials held indirect talks with Iran in Oman this week to avoid Mideast escalation</b>: <a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-senior-us-officials-held-indirect-talks-with-iran-in-oman-this-week-to-avoid-mideast-escalation/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-senior-us-officials-held-indirect-talks-with-iran-in-oman-this-week-to-avoid-mideast-escalation/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Two senior American officials held indirect meeting with Iranian officials in Oman this week in an effort to avoid a regional escalation, according to the Axios news site.</p>
<p>The talks focused on “clarifying the consequences of actions by Iran and its proxies in the region and to discuss US concerns regarding the status of Iran’s nuclear program,” according to two sources quoted in the report.</p>
<p>A government official confirms to the Times of Israel that White House Middle East czar Brett McGurk and special envoy on Iran Abram Paley were in Oman this week for the talks.</p>
<p>McGurk was also in Saudi Arabia this week, according to the same official.</p>
<p>Axios says it was unclear who represented Iran at the Oman talks and there was no official statement from either country.</p>
<p>The talks come after Iranian threats in recent weeks that Tehran will change its doctrine on nuclear weapons — currently banned under a fatwa by Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei — if its existence is threatened by Israel.</p>
<p>Similar talks were held between the United States and Iran in Oman January, when reportedly Tehran asked the Biden administration to secure a ceasefire in ongoing Gaza war while Washington pressed the Islamic Republic to curb attacks by its proxies  </p></blockquote>
<p>Pathetic.</p>
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		By: IrishOtter49		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IrishOtter49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2024 23:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Were talking about civilizational evil the rearing up of the Old Gods of Egypt of Babylon of Phoenicia,&lt;/i&gt;

With a few obvious exceptions the old gods of the ancient Near East were relatively benign, being chiefly concerned, most of them, with fertility, reproduction, the ordering of the seasons, and the overall stable functioning of the cosmos. In terms of their capacity and predilection for immiserating humanity, they didn&#039;t hold a candle to Allah, a truly violent, bloodthirsty, and -- dare I say it? -- evil deity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Were talking about civilizational evil the rearing up of the Old Gods of Egypt of Babylon of Phoenicia,</i></p>
<p>With a few obvious exceptions the old gods of the ancient Near East were relatively benign, being chiefly concerned, most of them, with fertility, reproduction, the ordering of the seasons, and the overall stable functioning of the cosmos. In terms of their capacity and predilection for immiserating humanity, they didn&#8217;t hold a candle to Allah, a truly violent, bloodthirsty, and &#8212; dare I say it? &#8212; evil deity.</p>
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		By: miguel+cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel+cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2024 23:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes amir taheri, and his nest of spies, was very helpful in painting the picture, a few years ago, Andrew Scott Palmer did a solid summing up, trying to cut through the black legend, that Mossadegh partisans like Bani Sadr had spread in the West, to Salinger, to Edward Randall in the Post, to Rouleau in Le Monde,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes amir taheri, and his nest of spies, was very helpful in painting the picture, a few years ago, Andrew Scott Palmer did a solid summing up, trying to cut through the black legend, that Mossadegh partisans like Bani Sadr had spread in the West, to Salinger, to Edward Randall in the Post, to Rouleau in Le Monde,</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2024 23:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Righting the wrongs of history? I&#039;d believe that, since the CIA involvement is firmly established as fact.

I&#039;d forgotten the controversy about the events leading to the return of the Shah.

&lt;blockquote&gt;For neutrality, readers must turn to the relatively obscure work of Diarioush Bayandor—fittingly, a resident of Switzerland—who possesses the most impartial moral sense among all Mossadegh historians. In his fastidiously sourced Iran and the CIA: The Fall of Mossadegh Revisited (2010), he delivers the verdict, that while “It is fair to conclude that even if the Shah’s dismissal order was not stricto sensu unconstitutional … it was a feature of a foreign scheme to bring about a change of government” and thus was of questionable legitimacy.

However harsh that is—and it is distinctly harsh, considering that at no time did the shah ever breach the laws of his country, while Mossadegh did promiscuously, and unapologetically—facts remain: Mossadegh was not democratically elected. He was not a democrat. He was not overthrown by the CIA, but by domestic forces he had repeatedly manipulated or misunderstood, and who welcomed a foreign hand of unmeasurable and uneven utility.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Remembering a CIA Coup in Iran That Never Was&lt;/b&gt;
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/cia-coup-in-iran-that-never-was-mossadegh]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Righting the wrongs of history? I&#8217;d believe that, since the CIA involvement is firmly established as fact.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d forgotten the controversy about the events leading to the return of the Shah.</p>
<blockquote><p>For neutrality, readers must turn to the relatively obscure work of Diarioush Bayandor—fittingly, a resident of Switzerland—who possesses the most impartial moral sense among all Mossadegh historians. In his fastidiously sourced Iran and the CIA: The Fall of Mossadegh Revisited (2010), he delivers the verdict, that while “It is fair to conclude that even if the Shah’s dismissal order was not stricto sensu unconstitutional … it was a feature of a foreign scheme to bring about a change of government” and thus was of questionable legitimacy.</p>
<p>However harsh that is—and it is distinctly harsh, considering that at no time did the shah ever breach the laws of his country, while Mossadegh did promiscuously, and unapologetically—facts remain: Mossadegh was not democratically elected. He was not a democrat. He was not overthrown by the CIA, but by domestic forces he had repeatedly manipulated or misunderstood, and who welcomed a foreign hand of unmeasurable and uneven utility.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>Remembering a CIA Coup in Iran That Never Was</b><br />
<a href="https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/cia-coup-in-iran-that-never-was-mossadegh" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/cia-coup-in-iran-that-never-was-mossadegh</a></p>
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		By: T J		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2024 23:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes. I think of how the world has changed since 1979. Or since 1999. It seemed Islam was somewhat marginalised then. Now, the Islamic nations in the UN form enough of a strong and effective voting block, they’ve turned it into their cats-paw in too many respects…just consider how compromised the WHO is!

And these same corrupt authoritarian states exercise veto power in the UN, these days. Leaving us ever more alienated from a once respected institution.

But the 10 and then 20 years of GWOT have made Americans look inward and spurn foreign affairs. It’s quite natural for a people to be war weary.

The Biden machinations and rationalizations regarding the ME only make me hate FJB more.

I’m with Kate and huxley on Neo’s focus. It’s lacking in my alt reading and YT information sources. This beat is your pulse, and therefore I am glad you share it….even though I’m certainly among those commenting less, if at all, about it.

But speaking of the 800 pound gorilla and the Obama-Blinken blinded mice, the unfiltered and unconstrained open border immigration not withstanding, the US debate we never had because the Left-Media shut it down with the pre-woke “racism” rant since 2003: “Islamophobia!”

Why is Islam incompatible with Western freedom and open sicieties?

That gorilla. And this is why I will always take Israel’s fate and prospects seriously. They constitute our frontline nation, that even Europe is abandoning.

This last fact scares me. And I feel so helpless about it (another reality that generates or hardens my neglect, I must admit)….]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. I think of how the world has changed since 1979. Or since 1999. It seemed Islam was somewhat marginalised then. Now, the Islamic nations in the UN form enough of a strong and effective voting block, they’ve turned it into their cats-paw in too many respects…just consider how compromised the WHO is!</p>
<p>And these same corrupt authoritarian states exercise veto power in the UN, these days. Leaving us ever more alienated from a once respected institution.</p>
<p>But the 10 and then 20 years of GWOT have made Americans look inward and spurn foreign affairs. It’s quite natural for a people to be war weary.</p>
<p>The Biden machinations and rationalizations regarding the ME only make me hate FJB more.</p>
<p>I’m with Kate and huxley on Neo’s focus. It’s lacking in my alt reading and YT information sources. This beat is your pulse, and therefore I am glad you share it….even though I’m certainly among those commenting less, if at all, about it.</p>
<p>But speaking of the 800 pound gorilla and the Obama-Blinken blinded mice, the unfiltered and unconstrained open border immigration not withstanding, the US debate we never had because the Left-Media shut it down with the pre-woke “racism” rant since 2003: “Islamophobia!”</p>
<p>Why is Islam incompatible with Western freedom and open sicieties?</p>
<p>That gorilla. And this is why I will always take Israel’s fate and prospects seriously. They constitute our frontline nation, that even Europe is abandoning.</p>
<p>This last fact scares me. And I feel so helpless about it (another reality that generates or hardens my neglect, I must admit)….</p>
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