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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE:  UFOs and the most recent supposed UAP/UFO “Report” to Congress from AARO

As I have written here recently, Christopher Mellon, the articulate, connected, and very well-informed former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, has done a masterful job of eviscerating this ARRO &quot;Report&quot; (see full text of this Report at https://www.aaro.mil/More-Info/).*

But what needs repeating is the fact that this Report did not report on the things which Congress very clearly mandated—in legislation which became law—that AARO should investigate and report on. 

To quote from Chris Mellon&#039;s analysis linked below:--

“The new UAP investigative agency of the U.S. Government is currently called the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO). It reports jointly to the leaders of DoD and the Intelligence Community (IC). AARO recently sent the classified version of its first historical report, Vol. I, to Congress. Ostensibly, it covers the period from 1945 to October 31, 2023. The administrative cover date is February 2024. Volume II is due on about June 15, 2024.

The Congressional legal mandate, meaning by statutory law, required that this AARO historical report present the detailed history of UAP as recorded in US Government records. However, AARO instead presented a summary history of the records of flawed USG investigations of UAP, rather than what was actually mandated: the history of UAP and “relating to” UAP, meaning the history of UAP sightings and investigations (and to be completed using USG records and other official information).

The law required a “written report detailing the historical record of the United States Government relating to unidentified anomalous phenomena,” and the word “investigations” nowhere appears – the phrase does not say it is to be a historical report solely “relating to” investigations of “unidentified anomalous phenomena.” (NDAA FY2023 Sec. 6802(j)(1)(A), codified statute 50 U.S. Code § 3373(j)(1)(A), as amended.)

In another breach of the explicit terms of the law, AARO failed to compile, itemize, and report on US intelligence agency abuses on UAP (per 50 U.S.C. § 3373, below). The AARO Historical Report was required to:

“(ii) include a compilation and itemization of the key historical record of the involvement of the intelligence community with unidentified anomalous phenomena [UAP], including— …

“(III) any efforts to obfuscate, manipulate public opinion, hide, or otherwise provide incorrect unclassified or classified information about unidentified anomalous phenomena [UAP] or related activities.” [NDAA FY23 Sec. 6802(j)(1)(B); 50 U.S. Code § 3373(j)(1)(B)]

Contrary to Congressional direction, AARO completely omits entire agencies – NORAD, NSA, DIA (prior to 2009), CBP, etc. – agencies with known investigations or activities relating to UAP, and also omits any discussion of “any efforts to obfuscate, [or]… hide … unclassified or classified information about unidentified anomalous phenomena [UAP] or related activities.” 

AARO omits these agencies even when there are unclassified documents available on those agencies’ records and investigations of UAP (for example, see the approximate 100 pages of CBP Customs &#038; Border Protection agency internal memos of Records on UAP, plus 10 videos, released in August, 2023, but unmentioned by AARO; Also see McMillan, Hanks, Plain, “Incursions at the Border,” The Debrief, May 27, 2022).”


*  See  https://thedebrief.org/the-pentagons-new-uap-report-is-seriously-flawed/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  UFOs and the most recent supposed UAP/UFO “Report” to Congress from AARO</p>
<p>As I have written here recently, Christopher Mellon, the articulate, connected, and very well-informed former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, has done a masterful job of eviscerating this ARRO &#8220;Report&#8221; (see full text of this Report at <a href="https://www.aaro.mil/More-Info/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.aaro.mil/More-Info/</a>).*</p>
<p>But what needs repeating is the fact that this Report did not report on the things which Congress very clearly mandated—in legislation which became law—that AARO should investigate and report on. </p>
<p>To quote from Chris Mellon&#8217;s analysis linked below:&#8211;</p>
<p>“The new UAP investigative agency of the U.S. Government is currently called the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO). It reports jointly to the leaders of DoD and the Intelligence Community (IC). AARO recently sent the classified version of its first historical report, Vol. I, to Congress. Ostensibly, it covers the period from 1945 to October 31, 2023. The administrative cover date is February 2024. Volume II is due on about June 15, 2024.</p>
<p>The Congressional legal mandate, meaning by statutory law, required that this AARO historical report present the detailed history of UAP as recorded in US Government records. However, AARO instead presented a summary history of the records of flawed USG investigations of UAP, rather than what was actually mandated: the history of UAP and “relating to” UAP, meaning the history of UAP sightings and investigations (and to be completed using USG records and other official information).</p>
<p>The law required a “written report detailing the historical record of the United States Government relating to unidentified anomalous phenomena,” and the word “investigations” nowhere appears – the phrase does not say it is to be a historical report solely “relating to” investigations of “unidentified anomalous phenomena.” (NDAA FY2023 Sec. 6802(j)(1)(A), codified statute 50 U.S. Code § 3373(j)(1)(A), as amended.)</p>
<p>In another breach of the explicit terms of the law, AARO failed to compile, itemize, and report on US intelligence agency abuses on UAP (per 50 U.S.C. § 3373, below). The AARO Historical Report was required to:</p>
<p>“(ii) include a compilation and itemization of the key historical record of the involvement of the intelligence community with unidentified anomalous phenomena [UAP], including— …</p>
<p>“(III) any efforts to obfuscate, manipulate public opinion, hide, or otherwise provide incorrect unclassified or classified information about unidentified anomalous phenomena [UAP] or related activities.” [NDAA FY23 Sec. 6802(j)(1)(B); 50 U.S. Code § 3373(j)(1)(B)]</p>
<p>Contrary to Congressional direction, AARO completely omits entire agencies – NORAD, NSA, DIA (prior to 2009), CBP, etc. – agencies with known investigations or activities relating to UAP, and also omits any discussion of “any efforts to obfuscate, [or]… hide … unclassified or classified information about unidentified anomalous phenomena [UAP] or related activities.” </p>
<p>AARO omits these agencies even when there are unclassified documents available on those agencies’ records and investigations of UAP (for example, see the approximate 100 pages of CBP Customs &amp; Border Protection agency internal memos of Records on UAP, plus 10 videos, released in August, 2023, but unmentioned by AARO; Also see McMillan, Hanks, Plain, “Incursions at the Border,” The Debrief, May 27, 2022).”</p>
<p>*  See  <a href="https://thedebrief.org/the-pentagons-new-uap-report-is-seriously-flawed/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thedebrief.org/the-pentagons-new-uap-report-is-seriously-flawed/</a></p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 01:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is crurious how a conjecture or speculation 

&lt;blockquote&gt;However, the fact, the reality of this massive surveillance operation is being ignored/downplayed by the MSM, and by our government.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

becomes a &lt;b&gt;fact&lt;/b&gt;.  Once a &lt;b&gt;fact&lt;/b&gt; is established then all flights of fancy are possible about what is possible and what has or hasn&#039;t been done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is crurious how a conjecture or speculation </p>
<blockquote><p>However, the fact, the reality of this massive surveillance operation is being ignored/downplayed by the MSM, and by our government.</p></blockquote>
<p>becomes a <b>fact</b>.  Once a <b>fact</b> is established then all flights of fancy are possible about what is possible and what has or hasn&#8217;t been done.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 00:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE:  UFOs—We are being surveilled!

From the reports I am seeing, the number of world-wide UFO sightings is steadily increasing and, as reports leak out, such surveillance--for surveillance it is--including the number of vehicles involved, has been and is especially increasing in tempo over U.S. military bases, ICBM fields, military exercises, and deployments—domestic and foreign.*

However, the fact, the reality of this massive surveillance operation is being ignored/downplayed by the MSM, and by our government.

Thus, if you relied on them for knowledge about this massive surveillance campaign, you would believe that it just wasn&#039;t happening; everything is just hunky dory. 

Why keep silent about what is obviously a major national security threat?

Well, one reason would be that neither our  government nor, in particular, our military forces--supplied with hundreds of thousands of soldiers, and trillions of dollars worth of equipment, aircraft, sensor systems, and all sorts of armaments--are unable to stop this surveillance, and these incursions into supposedly secure military and/or commercial airspace.  

A very logical assumption is that such widespread, intense, and increasing surveillance—all this expenditure of effort--is being done for a purpose, and most of the the possible purposes which immediately come to mind for such a massive campaign of surveillance are not good. 


*  See, for instance, the large number of UFOs (claimed by the AF to have been mysterious “drones”-- if they were drones from one of our adversaries, how come we have seen no news that one has been brought down, and/or identified?) which recently swarmed over Langley AFB at https://www.unknowncountry.com/headline-news/the-u-s-air-force-acknowledges-that-langley-afb-was-swarmed-during-multiple-incursions-by-unidentified-drones/ ,

* or https://www.twz.com/air/mysterious-drones-swarmed-langley-afb-for-weeks

*   Or https://thedebrief.org/uap-incident-over-the-gulf-of-mexico-revealed-by-u-s-congressman-confirmed-in-newly-declassified-files-and-images/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  UFOs—We are being surveilled!</p>
<p>From the reports I am seeing, the number of world-wide UFO sightings is steadily increasing and, as reports leak out, such surveillance&#8211;for surveillance it is&#8211;including the number of vehicles involved, has been and is especially increasing in tempo over U.S. military bases, ICBM fields, military exercises, and deployments—domestic and foreign.*</p>
<p>However, the fact, the reality of this massive surveillance operation is being ignored/downplayed by the MSM, and by our government.</p>
<p>Thus, if you relied on them for knowledge about this massive surveillance campaign, you would believe that it just wasn&#8217;t happening; everything is just hunky dory. </p>
<p>Why keep silent about what is obviously a major national security threat?</p>
<p>Well, one reason would be that neither our  government nor, in particular, our military forces&#8211;supplied with hundreds of thousands of soldiers, and trillions of dollars worth of equipment, aircraft, sensor systems, and all sorts of armaments&#8211;are unable to stop this surveillance, and these incursions into supposedly secure military and/or commercial airspace.  </p>
<p>A very logical assumption is that such widespread, intense, and increasing surveillance—all this expenditure of effort&#8211;is being done for a purpose, and most of the the possible purposes which immediately come to mind for such a massive campaign of surveillance are not good. </p>
<p>*  See, for instance, the large number of UFOs (claimed by the AF to have been mysterious “drones”&#8211; if they were drones from one of our adversaries, how come we have seen no news that one has been brought down, and/or identified?) which recently swarmed over Langley AFB at <a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/headline-news/the-u-s-air-force-acknowledges-that-langley-afb-was-swarmed-during-multiple-incursions-by-unidentified-drones/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.unknowncountry.com/headline-news/the-u-s-air-force-acknowledges-that-langley-afb-was-swarmed-during-multiple-incursions-by-unidentified-drones/</a> ,</p>
<p>* or <a href="https://www.twz.com/air/mysterious-drones-swarmed-langley-afb-for-weeks" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.twz.com/air/mysterious-drones-swarmed-langley-afb-for-weeks</a></p>
<p>*   Or <a href="https://thedebrief.org/uap-incident-over-the-gulf-of-mexico-revealed-by-u-s-congressman-confirmed-in-newly-declassified-files-and-images/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thedebrief.org/uap-incident-over-the-gulf-of-mexico-revealed-by-u-s-congressman-confirmed-in-newly-declassified-files-and-images/</a></p>
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		By: miguel+cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 00:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://babylonbee.com/news/with-biden-stalling-israel-announces-they-will-just-get-american-weapons-from-taliban]]></description>
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		By: miguel+cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 00:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[like the guy at the head of the table in the untouchables I don&#039;t think hes&#039; that self aware,

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sk8t1a0m0#autoplay]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like the guy at the head of the table in the untouchables I don&#8217;t think hes&#8217; that self aware,</p>
<p><a href="https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sk8t1a0m0#autoplay" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sk8t1a0m0#autoplay</a></p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2024 23:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shoigu should probably stay away from balconies and windows, lest he &quot;fall accidentally&quot; like so many others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoigu should probably stay away from balconies and windows, lest he &#8220;fall accidentally&#8221; like so many others.</p>
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		By: miguel+cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel+cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2024 23:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[and in this corner

https://twitter.com/ShidelerK/status/1789663197181485500]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and in this corner</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/ShidelerK/status/1789663197181485500" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/ShidelerK/status/1789663197181485500</a></p>
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		By: miguel+cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel+cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2024 22:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes I have said before Shoigu should find himself a nice balcony and profit, as he farked up things royally, stupid Tuvan]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes I have said before Shoigu should find himself a nice balcony and profit, as he farked up things royally, stupid Tuvan</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2024 22:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Open Thread Sunday - Russia&#039;s War on Ukraine - Follow Ups

&lt;b&gt;Putin Sacks Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Shakes Up Russia&#039;s Security Council - streiff&lt;/b&gt;

https://redstate.com/streiff/2024/05/12/putin-sacks-defense-minister-sergei-shoigu-and-shakes-up-russias-security-council-n2174102

&lt;b&gt;Can Russia win in Ukraine with nuclear weapons? - Anders Puck Nielsen&lt;/b&gt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4mZPc_kkys&#038;t=1s]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open Thread Sunday &#8211; Russia&#8217;s War on Ukraine &#8211; Follow Ups</p>
<p><b>Putin Sacks Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Shakes Up Russia&#8217;s Security Council &#8211; streiff</b></p>
<p><a href="https://redstate.com/streiff/2024/05/12/putin-sacks-defense-minister-sergei-shoigu-and-shakes-up-russias-security-council-n2174102" rel="nofollow ugc">https://redstate.com/streiff/2024/05/12/putin-sacks-defense-minister-sergei-shoigu-and-shakes-up-russias-security-council-n2174102</a></p>
<p><b>Can Russia win in Ukraine with nuclear weapons? &#8211; Anders Puck Nielsen</b><br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4mZPc_kkys&#038;t=1s" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4mZPc_kkys&#038;t=1s</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2024 22:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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