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		By: miguel+cervantes		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I mean in one corner of the circus, they are stacking nonsensical and novel applications of charges for non -violent offenders for mr fischer, for example or my paisan from Miami, who was in another city, at the time, sentenced to 22 years,

meanwhile every criminal inciter and terrorist seems to get a get out of jail card, thanks to fat alvin, or some other soros DA, like Matthew Graves]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean in one corner of the circus, they are stacking nonsensical and novel applications of charges for non -violent offenders for mr fischer, for example or my paisan from Miami, who was in another city, at the time, sentenced to 22 years,</p>
<p>meanwhile every criminal inciter and terrorist seems to get a get out of jail card, thanks to fat alvin, or some other soros DA, like Matthew Graves</p>
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		By: starride		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[starride]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 18:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bauxite:

Who gets to decide what is within the authority of the office of president? Especially if the sitting President is the highest ranking law enforcement officer in the country?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bauxite:</p>
<p>Who gets to decide what is within the authority of the office of president? Especially if the sitting President is the highest ranking law enforcement officer in the country?</p>
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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ObloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 03:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;“… endless charges from politically motivated prosecutors.”

Well, there’s your problem right there.&lt;/i&gt;

To Dems, this is not a problem, it&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;feature.&lt;/i&gt;

}}} &lt;i&gt;What effect will the decision have on the conduct and vulnerability of lesser officials, federal, state and local or will there be different standards?&lt;/i&gt;

What letter followed their names on the ballot, if elected, and who did they vote for, if not?

Aye, there&#039;s the rub.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>“… endless charges from politically motivated prosecutors.”</p>
<p>Well, there’s your problem right there.</i></p>
<p>To Dems, this is not a problem, it&#8217;s a <i>feature.</i></p>
<p>}}} <i>What effect will the decision have on the conduct and vulnerability of lesser officials, federal, state and local or will there be different standards?</i></p>
<p>What letter followed their names on the ballot, if elected, and who did they vote for, if not?</p>
<p>Aye, there&#8217;s the rub.</p>
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		By: Dave Schneider		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Schneider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What effect will the decision have on the conduct and vulnerability of lesser officials, federal, state and local or will there be different standards?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What effect will the decision have on the conduct and vulnerability of lesser officials, federal, state and local or will there be different standards?</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Great Orange Whale must be slain.  

CC(TM) will pursue him to the depths of Hell.  It&#039;s his soul&#039;s work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Great Orange Whale must be slain.  </p>
<p>CC(TM) will pursue him to the depths of Hell.  It&#8217;s his soul&#8217;s work.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2024 13:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This administration has pledged to wage war against christians and jew police and 
farmers

It has detained non violent protesters without trial and put them before tribunals that would be repugnantly unbalanced in any other country

It murdered some protesters and drove others to suicide with their cruelty]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This administration has pledged to wage war against christians and jew police and<br />
farmers</p>
<p>It has detained non violent protesters without trial and put them before tribunals that would be repugnantly unbalanced in any other country</p>
<p>It murdered some protesters and drove others to suicide with their cruelty</p>
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		By: T J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2024 13:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bauxite, Re Trump and his absolute immunity argument, you’re missing two or three things.

First, it only applies for official acts to the outer perimeter of Presidential responsibilities. Thus, instigating and oversight sparking a debate by Congress on the previous elections security and validity (ie, J6) remains definitely within the realm of presidential immunity (cf, oath of office, he’s charged with with the “faithful execution of the law”, something both Biden and Majorkas have clearly violated on immigration.)

Second, Team Trump lawyers contend that if non-official Presidential conduct that may be tortious or criminal, he is still liable after Presidential term of office for prosecution.

Third, while impeachment is the Congress prerogative, it can challenge offensive conduct — criminal or not — subject only to a Senate supermajority vote (or, two-thirds) for conviction and removal from office.

The abject problem with qualified immunity is that holding Trump to this level easily implies that Obama and others like Cabinet members and others at the highest official levels (eg, Senate approved) are also subject to prosecution while in office.

The only remaining fuzzy area is the 25th Amendment, which requires a series of officials to mutually decide on suspending Presidential powers.

As of now, this has only been used twice for medical sedation and recovery from surgical procedures to the President.

Using it for psychological or psychiatric intervention has been much advocated by the histrionic far Left against Trump. I’m betting it will be used in this way, eventually.

The muddled benefit consequences has won out, thus far, resulting in no such use.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bauxite, Re Trump and his absolute immunity argument, you’re missing two or three things.</p>
<p>First, it only applies for official acts to the outer perimeter of Presidential responsibilities. Thus, instigating and oversight sparking a debate by Congress on the previous elections security and validity (ie, J6) remains definitely within the realm of presidential immunity (cf, oath of office, he’s charged with with the “faithful execution of the law”, something both Biden and Majorkas have clearly violated on immigration.)</p>
<p>Second, Team Trump lawyers contend that if non-official Presidential conduct that may be tortious or criminal, he is still liable after Presidential term of office for prosecution.</p>
<p>Third, while impeachment is the Congress prerogative, it can challenge offensive conduct — criminal or not — subject only to a Senate supermajority vote (or, two-thirds) for conviction and removal from office.</p>
<p>The abject problem with qualified immunity is that holding Trump to this level easily implies that Obama and others like Cabinet members and others at the highest official levels (eg, Senate approved) are also subject to prosecution while in office.</p>
<p>The only remaining fuzzy area is the 25th Amendment, which requires a series of officials to mutually decide on suspending Presidential powers.</p>
<p>As of now, this has only been used twice for medical sedation and recovery from surgical procedures to the President.</p>
<p>Using it for psychological or psychiatric intervention has been much advocated by the histrionic far Left against Trump. I’m betting it will be used in this way, eventually.</p>
<p>The muddled benefit consequences has won out, thus far, resulting in no such use.</p>
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		By: Richard+Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard+Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama and Fast &#038;Furious?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama and Fast &amp;Furious?</p>
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		By: Richard F Cook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard F Cook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2024 10:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bauxite still on that BS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bauxite still on that BS.</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2024 09:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a case where both parties&#039; positions are absurd - Smith&#039;s position appears to be that there is no immunity because the the DOJ is infallible. Trump&#039;s position is that there is absolute immunity. 

At least Smith&#039;s position makes sense strategically, if not legally or logically. If the case has to go back to the judge for a finding of fact about whether Trump&#039;s activities were official, it delays the case until after the election. 

I don&#039;t get Trump&#039;s position, though. Either he thinks he&#039;s going to lose on an &quot;official action&quot; analysis and therefore has to take the absolutist position, or it&#039;s a case of Trump being Trump. 

Either way - whose idea was it to nominate this guy for president again anyway?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a case where both parties&#8217; positions are absurd &#8211; Smith&#8217;s position appears to be that there is no immunity because the the DOJ is infallible. Trump&#8217;s position is that there is absolute immunity. </p>
<p>At least Smith&#8217;s position makes sense strategically, if not legally or logically. If the case has to go back to the judge for a finding of fact about whether Trump&#8217;s activities were official, it delays the case until after the election. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get Trump&#8217;s position, though. Either he thinks he&#8217;s going to lose on an &#8220;official action&#8221; analysis and therefore has to take the absolutist position, or it&#8217;s a case of Trump being Trump. </p>
<p>Either way &#8211; whose idea was it to nominate this guy for president again anyway?</p>
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