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		By: JFM		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The definitive proof that, for me, Oswald was the assassin was an article in a gun magazine. It described Marine Corps firearms instructors recreating the shooting. They couldn’t do it. BUT! It turns out that Oswald was left handed and shot that way. The Marine shooters easily made the shot shooting left handed. Holding the rifle in the left hand and working the bolt with the right hand. This is shooting from a rest, as it’s believed Oswald did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The definitive proof that, for me, Oswald was the assassin was an article in a gun magazine. It described Marine Corps firearms instructors recreating the shooting. They couldn’t do it. BUT! It turns out that Oswald was left handed and shot that way. The Marine shooters easily made the shot shooting left handed. Holding the rifle in the left hand and working the bolt with the right hand. This is shooting from a rest, as it’s believed Oswald did.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 16:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;BUT… there is a lot of really weird shit surrounding the history of Oswald. Unquestionably a litany of “Things that make you go, ‘Hmmmmm….&#039;”&lt;/i&gt;
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Try a thought experiment which absolves Oswald.  The conspirators have to identify a scapegoat on short notice.  (The route of the motorcade in question was decided upon &#060; two weeks earlier, IIRC).   As it happens, they have one in their Rolodex who works at a commercial building along the route.  They would know this because their Rolodex is continuously updated and they remarked it when Oswald was hired there about six weeks earlier. (Oswald would have been difficult to track because he was fired from his job frequently and had moved from New Orleans to Dallas just months earlier).  Their trackers discover he bought a Carcano rifle via mail order that summer.  So, they go over to his boarding house and cadge it.  Oh, wait, he keeps it in Ruth Paine&#039;s garage.  So, they steal it from there, carefully picking a time when neither Mrs. Paine nor Mrs. Oswald (nor Mr. Paine) are at the house.  One of the boys infiltrates the School Book Depository undetected, builds a sniper&#039;s nest and plugs Gov. Connolly and the President before leaving the building undetected.  
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You have to love it when a plan comes together.  Oswald was in a car pool with other Depository employees.  The conspirators managed to pick a day when he had a package with him on the way to work. (&#034;Curtain rods&#034;, he said).  Oswald&#039;s foreman held a roll call after the assassination.  All but one of the men on his staff were present.  The missing employee was ... Lee Oswald.  Later in the day, a man took out his pistol and fired away at a Dallas city cop in full view of a scrum of witnesses.  Then he goes and hides himself (witnessed by local merchants) in one business, then another.  Witnesses identify a movie theatre said assailant entered.  Dallas police enter the theatre and find Lee Oswald just mindin&#039; his own business, right?  The man must have been the unluckiest man alive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>BUT… there is a lot of really weird shit surrounding the history of Oswald. Unquestionably a litany of “Things that make you go, ‘Hmmmmm….&#8217;”</i><br />
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Try a thought experiment which absolves Oswald.  The conspirators have to identify a scapegoat on short notice.  (The route of the motorcade in question was decided upon &lt; two weeks earlier, IIRC).   As it happens, they have one in their Rolodex who works at a commercial building along the route.  They would know this because their Rolodex is continuously updated and they remarked it when Oswald was hired there about six weeks earlier. (Oswald would have been difficult to track because he was fired from his job frequently and had moved from New Orleans to Dallas just months earlier).  Their trackers discover he bought a Carcano rifle via mail order that summer.  So, they go over to his boarding house and cadge it.  Oh, wait, he keeps it in Ruth Paine&#039;s garage.  So, they steal it from there, carefully picking a time when neither Mrs. Paine nor Mrs. Oswald (nor Mr. Paine) are at the house.  One of the boys infiltrates the School Book Depository undetected, builds a sniper&#039;s nest and plugs Gov. Connolly and the President before leaving the building undetected.<br />
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You have to love it when a plan comes together.  Oswald was in a car pool with other Depository employees.  The conspirators managed to pick a day when he had a package with him on the way to work. (&quot;Curtain rods&quot;, he said).  Oswald&#039;s foreman held a roll call after the assassination.  All but one of the men on his staff were present.  The missing employee was &#8230; Lee Oswald.  Later in the day, a man took out his pistol and fired away at a Dallas city cop in full view of a scrum of witnesses.  Then he goes and hides himself (witnessed by local merchants) in one business, then another.  Witnesses identify a movie theatre said assailant entered.  Dallas police enter the theatre and find Lee Oswald just mindin&#039; his own business, right?  The man must have been the unluckiest man alive.</p>
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		By: Michael K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The maneuvering around the efforts to remove the Speaker are worrisome because the Democrats are so close to the majority and that would allow them to remove Trump from the ballot. It is suspicious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The maneuvering around the efforts to remove the Speaker are worrisome because the Democrats are so close to the majority and that would allow them to remove Trump from the ballot. It is suspicious.</p>
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		By: Eeyore		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On Oswald, my wife has a fun story. She&#039;s a country girl, and when she was in HS, someone said no one could make that shot. One boy said &quot;I think I could. I KNOW my father could.&quot; (The 2nd is pure Virginia.)

The next weekend his parents heard shooting, and the mother sent the father to find out why. It stopped for a bit, then started up again. She followed, and saw her husband, hanging to the side of a silo, shooting at a bale of hay, set on a moving tractor.

On the main point, I still object. Republican politicians are not afraid of their base, Democrats are. And the Left benefits from that. Unless we can put some fear into them, we will lose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Oswald, my wife has a fun story. She&#8217;s a country girl, and when she was in HS, someone said no one could make that shot. One boy said &#8220;I think I could. I KNOW my father could.&#8221; (The 2nd is pure Virginia.)</p>
<p>The next weekend his parents heard shooting, and the mother sent the father to find out why. It stopped for a bit, then started up again. She followed, and saw her husband, hanging to the side of a silo, shooting at a bale of hay, set on a moving tractor.</p>
<p>On the main point, I still object. Republican politicians are not afraid of their base, Democrats are. And the Left benefits from that. Unless we can put some fear into them, we will lose.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 13:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related:
&quot; Roger Kimball: The Trump trial is a precursor to how a republic ends. Not with a bang, but a perversion of the law.&quot;---
https://instapundit.com/642376/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related:<br />
&#8221; Roger Kimball: The Trump trial is a precursor to how a republic ends. Not with a bang, but a perversion of the law.&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://instapundit.com/642376/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://instapundit.com/642376/</a></p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 03:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo:

Whew.  Glad to have been mistaken.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo:</p>
<p>Whew.  Glad to have been mistaken.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 03:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aha, there were some principled Democrats in those days:

&quot;Immediately after Lieberman concluded his statement, two senior Democrats – Sens. Bob Kerrey (Neb.) and Daniel Patrick Moynihan (N.Y.) – rose to endorse Lieberman&#039;s rebuke of the president and to praise him for his words.&quot;  Good for them. They were certainly in the minority on the Democrat side.

Joe Lieberman was a principled man. Unusually so in a Democrat, IMO.  (Okay, Alan Dershowitz is also a principled Dem.) So unusually so that he decided later in his career that he could no longer be a Democrat. (Dersh can&#039;t bring himself to do it, even though he should.)  

Let&#039;s just say the criticism of Bill on the left and in the MSM was rare.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha, there were some principled Democrats in those days:</p>
<p>&#8220;Immediately after Lieberman concluded his statement, two senior Democrats – Sens. Bob Kerrey (Neb.) and Daniel Patrick Moynihan (N.Y.) – rose to endorse Lieberman&#8217;s rebuke of the president and to praise him for his words.&#8221;  Good for them. They were certainly in the minority on the Democrat side.</p>
<p>Joe Lieberman was a principled man. Unusually so in a Democrat, IMO.  (Okay, Alan Dershowitz is also a principled Dem.) So unusually so that he decided later in his career that he could no longer be a Democrat. (Dersh can&#8217;t bring himself to do it, even though he should.)  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just say the criticism of Bill on the left and in the MSM was rare.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 03:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[om:

Snow on Pine last commented here &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2024/04/13/open-thread-4-13-24/#comment-2734195&quot;&gt;on April 14&lt;/a&gt;.  Not especially long ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>om:</p>
<p>Snow on Pine last commented here <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2024/04/13/open-thread-4-13-24/#comment-2734195">on April 14</a>.  Not especially long ago.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 02:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain:

I assume you know the difference between siding with an opponent on occasion and siding with that opponent all the time (being indistinguishable in goals and actions from that opponent).

It is illogical to pick and choose certain specific ways in which the parties are similar and then say they basically have the same goals and are on the way to the same destination, period.  On a few issues, yes, but not - for example - on Israel, not on religious freedom, not on judicial nominations, not on defense, not on education, not on rules for voting security, not on a host of other important issues.

The GOP has a paper-thin majority in the House and is a minority in the Senate.  It can&#039;t pass anything in the House unless it&#039;s almost unanimous.  Republicans tend to be more individualistic than Democrats in their votes and it&#039;s very hard to get that near-unanimity, and even when it is accomplished then the measures are defeated in the Senate.

I&#039;ve noticed that most of the criticism of the GOP doesn&#039;t take these facts into account - including the fact that not every GOP member of Congress is a conservative.  The less conservative, the more like Democrats the GOP member of Congress is.  It&#039;s just not a unitary bunch, but that doesn&#039;t mean that it&#039;s indistinguishable from the Democrat Party or even close to that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain:</p>
<p>I assume you know the difference between siding with an opponent on occasion and siding with that opponent all the time (being indistinguishable in goals and actions from that opponent).</p>
<p>It is illogical to pick and choose certain specific ways in which the parties are similar and then say they basically have the same goals and are on the way to the same destination, period.  On a few issues, yes, but not &#8211; for example &#8211; on Israel, not on religious freedom, not on judicial nominations, not on defense, not on education, not on rules for voting security, not on a host of other important issues.</p>
<p>The GOP has a paper-thin majority in the House and is a minority in the Senate.  It can&#8217;t pass anything in the House unless it&#8217;s almost unanimous.  Republicans tend to be more individualistic than Democrats in their votes and it&#8217;s very hard to get that near-unanimity, and even when it is accomplished then the measures are defeated in the Senate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that most of the criticism of the GOP doesn&#8217;t take these facts into account &#8211; including the fact that not every GOP member of Congress is a conservative.  The less conservative, the more like Democrats the GOP member of Congress is.  It&#8217;s just not a unitary bunch, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that it&#8217;s indistinguishable from the Democrat Party or even close to that.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 02:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[J.J.:

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/dems090498.htm#:~:text=%22Such%20behavior%20is%20not%20only,strength%20of%20the%20American%20family.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Joe Lieberman on Bill Clinton&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Such behavior is not only inappropriate,&quot; Lieberman said. &quot;It is immoral and it is harmful.&quot; Clinton&#039;s actions, he said, &quot;contradicted the values&quot; the president has publicly embraced for the past six years and &quot;compromised his moral authority&quot; to restore the strength of the American family.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.J.:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/dems090498.htm#:~:text=%22Such%20behavior%20is%20not%20only,strength%20of%20the%20American%20family." rel="nofollow ugc">Joe Lieberman on Bill Clinton</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Such behavior is not only inappropriate,&#8221; Lieberman said. &#8220;It is immoral and it is harmful.&#8221; Clinton&#8217;s actions, he said, &#8220;contradicted the values&#8221; the president has publicly embraced for the past six years and &#8220;compromised his moral authority&#8221; to restore the strength of the American family.</p></blockquote>
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