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		By: Hubert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/27/rip-joe-lieberman/#comment-2731431</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hubert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Abraxas: &quot;She had tried to help her divorced friend find someone new, and that someone ended up to be her own husband. My impression was that she was not a very happy woman, and that maybe her ex’s “Holy Joe” persona may have irritated her.&quot;

Ouch. I did not know that. I assume the &quot;may have&quot; is deliberate understatement. I&#039;m sure Lieberman&#039;s image as a devout mensch must have grated on his ex-wife.

I got the info on Chaffetz&#039;s religious affiliations via links to archived articles in the LA Times and The Forward. The Forward piece&#039;s title: &quot;The House GOP&#039;s Jewish Mormon&quot;. Complicated family history.

If they could make &quot;A Yank at Oxford&quot;, why not &quot;A Jew at BYU&quot;? Maybe AesopFan has some contacts in the LDS filmmaking community; and BYU is supposed to have a pretty good film program. Picture it: Larry David meets Neil LaBute.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abraxas: &#8220;She had tried to help her divorced friend find someone new, and that someone ended up to be her own husband. My impression was that she was not a very happy woman, and that maybe her ex’s “Holy Joe” persona may have irritated her.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ouch. I did not know that. I assume the &#8220;may have&#8221; is deliberate understatement. I&#8217;m sure Lieberman&#8217;s image as a devout mensch must have grated on his ex-wife.</p>
<p>I got the info on Chaffetz&#8217;s religious affiliations via links to archived articles in the LA Times and The Forward. The Forward piece&#8217;s title: &#8220;The House GOP&#8217;s Jewish Mormon&#8221;. Complicated family history.</p>
<p>If they could make &#8220;A Yank at Oxford&#8221;, why not &#8220;A Jew at BYU&#8221;? Maybe AesopFan has some contacts in the LDS filmmaking community; and BYU is supposed to have a pretty good film program. Picture it: Larry David meets Neil LaBute.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/27/rip-joe-lieberman/#comment-2731426</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2024 13:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Caroline Glick Show, &quot;Joe Lieberman and the Democrat Party&#039;s Abandonment of Jews and Israel&quot; (47:25): https://youtu.be/sD_vi0zV1po?si=kGHv8KDidWxUS1Qj]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caroline Glick Show, &#8220;Joe Lieberman and the Democrat Party&#8217;s Abandonment of Jews and Israel&#8221; (47:25): <a href="https://youtu.be/sD_vi0zV1po?si=kGHv8KDidWxUS1Qj" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/sD_vi0zV1po?si=kGHv8KDidWxUS1Qj</a></p>
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		By: Dax		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/27/rip-joe-lieberman/#comment-2731391</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He spoke against the party line often.

When push came to shove, he voted against convicting Bill Clinton.

I fondly remember the SORE/LOSERMAN mocking campaign signs which appeared, after Al Gore prematurely conceded the Presidential election, and then changed his mind.

In this period there was reportedly a &quot;preppy riot,&quot; but a quick search engine query doesn&#039;t show any results.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He spoke against the party line often.</p>
<p>When push came to shove, he voted against convicting Bill Clinton.</p>
<p>I fondly remember the SORE/LOSERMAN mocking campaign signs which appeared, after Al Gore prematurely conceded the Presidential election, and then changed his mind.</p>
<p>In this period there was reportedly a &#8220;preppy riot,&#8221; but a quick search engine query doesn&#8217;t show any results.</p>
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		By: F		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/27/rip-joe-lieberman/#comment-2731250</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[F]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2024 16:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What does it say about us as a nation that we are impressed when we discover one of our elected officials is principled and honest?  Sad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it say about us as a nation that we are impressed when we discover one of our elected officials is principled and honest?  Sad.</p>
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		By: Abraxas		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/27/rip-joe-lieberman/#comment-2731248</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abraxas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2024 15:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jason Chaffetz&#039;s father&#039;s first wife was Kitty Dukakis.  The Dukakis&#039;s eldest son, John, was actually John Chaffetz&#039;s son, so there was more closeness between the two families living on opposite sides of the country than their often is after a divorce.  Jason&#039;s mother was Mormon, so I don&#039;t think he was a convert to that faith.

I saw Joe Lieberman once, and I knew his ex-wife.  She had tried to help her divorced friend find someone new, and that someone ended up to be her own husband.  My impression was that she was not a very happy woman, and that maybe her ex&#039;s &quot;Holy Joe&quot; persona may have irritated her.

Lieberman defeated Republican Lowell Weicker to become Senator.  He benefited from the support of William F. Buckley, who despised Weicker and wanted him out.  Both Lieberman and Weicker ended their careers being rejected by many in their own parties and running as independents.  Lieberman was certainly better than Weicker, who after promising not to give Connecticut an income tax, gave Connecticut an income tax.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Chaffetz&#8217;s father&#8217;s first wife was Kitty Dukakis.  The Dukakis&#8217;s eldest son, John, was actually John Chaffetz&#8217;s son, so there was more closeness between the two families living on opposite sides of the country than their often is after a divorce.  Jason&#8217;s mother was Mormon, so I don&#8217;t think he was a convert to that faith.</p>
<p>I saw Joe Lieberman once, and I knew his ex-wife.  She had tried to help her divorced friend find someone new, and that someone ended up to be her own husband.  My impression was that she was not a very happy woman, and that maybe her ex&#8217;s &#8220;Holy Joe&#8221; persona may have irritated her.</p>
<p>Lieberman defeated Republican Lowell Weicker to become Senator.  He benefited from the support of William F. Buckley, who despised Weicker and wanted him out.  Both Lieberman and Weicker ended their careers being rejected by many in their own parties and running as independents.  Lieberman was certainly better than Weicker, who after promising not to give Connecticut an income tax, gave Connecticut an income tax.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/27/rip-joe-lieberman/#comment-2731247</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2024 15:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve got to roll the Old Guard, before you can properly attend to your enemies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got to roll the Old Guard, before you can properly attend to your enemies.</p>
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		By: Hubert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/27/rip-joe-lieberman/#comment-2731245</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hubert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2024 15:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan: &quot;It is telling that the Democrats don’t restrict their demonizing just to Republicans, isn’t it?&quot; It is. It reminds me of how the Stalinist generation in the Soviet Union ruthlessly purged the Old Bolsheviks. All that matters is power (and the material perks that go with it of course). I used to have that argument with my late father, who was slow to recognize that the Democrat Party had been taken over by the hard Left. In fact, Lieberman was one of the counter-examples he&#039;d point to.

Dad didn&#039;t vote straight Democrat. A WWII vet and a Cold War anti-communist, he was tough-minded about national security and had no patience with left-wing blame-America-first nonsense. I know he voted for Nixon in 1972; and I&#039;m pretty sure he voted Republican in 2004, 2008, and 2012.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan: &#8220;It is telling that the Democrats don’t restrict their demonizing just to Republicans, isn’t it?&#8221; It is. It reminds me of how the Stalinist generation in the Soviet Union ruthlessly purged the Old Bolsheviks. All that matters is power (and the material perks that go with it of course). I used to have that argument with my late father, who was slow to recognize that the Democrat Party had been taken over by the hard Left. In fact, Lieberman was one of the counter-examples he&#8217;d point to.</p>
<p>Dad didn&#8217;t vote straight Democrat. A WWII vet and a Cold War anti-communist, he was tough-minded about national security and had no patience with left-wing blame-America-first nonsense. I know he voted for Nixon in 1972; and I&#8217;m pretty sure he voted Republican in 2004, 2008, and 2012.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well...Lieberman DID, after all, insult (as in, told the truth about) &quot;Biden&quot; (via &quot;his&quot; M.C., in this case, Chuck &quot;Schemer&quot; Schumer).

(People have been canceled for far less...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;Lieberman DID, after all, insult (as in, told the truth about) &#8220;Biden&#8221; (via &#8220;his&#8221; M.C., in this case, Chuck &#8220;Schemer&#8221; Schumer).</p>
<p>(People have been canceled for far less&#8230;)</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/27/rip-joe-lieberman/#comment-2731241</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2024 13:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Follow up this morning:  I didn&#039;t see one instance of the announcement of his death on ANY of the newsfeeds I follow; both right and left except for Newsmax which posted a statement from Guiliani....incredible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow up this morning:  I didn&#8217;t see one instance of the announcement of his death on ANY of the newsfeeds I follow; both right and left except for Newsmax which posted a statement from Guiliani&#8230;.incredible.</p>
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		By: BrooklynBoy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/27/rip-joe-lieberman/#comment-2731237</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrooklynBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2024 13:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lieberman was one of the last sane Democrats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lieberman was one of the last sane Democrats.</p>
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