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	Comments on: Jonathan Haidt on how smartphones have harmed children growing up with them	</title>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 22:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JFM:

I think it&#039;s pretty clear that they are somehow buying the service, or there would be no issue.  I believe they can get a prepaid phone card, which is apparently not a contract.

Also - and I could be wrong about this - I believe you can get an unlocked phone and connect it to the internet off of WiFi without a phone contract.  You wouldn&#039;t be able to make or receive calls or texts, but you could access the internet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JFM:</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s pretty clear that they are somehow buying the service, or there would be no issue.  I believe they can get a prepaid phone card, which is apparently not a contract.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; and I could be wrong about this &#8211; I believe you can get an unlocked phone and connect it to the internet off of WiFi without a phone contract.  You wouldn&#8217;t be able to make or receive calls or texts, but you could access the internet.</p>
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		By: JFM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 22:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m Neo-first, thank you for the links. I think I’m not framing my point clearly enough. My question wasn’t about the phone itself, but the service to the phone. That was the contract I was asking about. The links all were aimed at the phone as property and whether parents can take it away or not. If the children can’t sign, legally, a service contract then the parents can just cancel the service. Yes, the phone can still be used to access the internet-in some places, but not all. 
A car is a car, but without fuel it isn’t going anywhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m Neo-first, thank you for the links. I think I’m not framing my point clearly enough. My question wasn’t about the phone itself, but the service to the phone. That was the contract I was asking about. The links all were aimed at the phone as property and whether parents can take it away or not. If the children can’t sign, legally, a service contract then the parents can just cancel the service. Yes, the phone can still be used to access the internet-in some places, but not all.<br />
A car is a car, but without fuel it isn’t going anywhere.</p>
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		By: IrishOtter49		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 19:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate: 

Maybe you&#039;re right, maybe not. Either way I can&#039;t get worked up about it. Either the kids will sort things out or they won&#039;t. Just like everything else.

Since nearly nearly leaving this life I&#039;m ever more inclined to indifference to a whole lot of things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate: </p>
<p>Maybe you&#8217;re right, maybe not. Either way I can&#8217;t get worked up about it. Either the kids will sort things out or they won&#8217;t. Just like everything else.</p>
<p>Since nearly nearly leaving this life I&#8217;m ever more inclined to indifference to a whole lot of things.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 18:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JFM:

Apparently &lt;a href=&quot;https://reyabogado.com/us/can-your-parents-take-your-phone-if-you-paid-for-it/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;they can&lt;/a&gt;.  See also &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/can-my-parents-take-away-something-i-bought-with-m-1323337.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JFM:</p>
<p>Apparently <a href="https://reyabogado.com/us/can-your-parents-take-your-phone-if-you-paid-for-it/" rel="nofollow ugc">they can</a>.  See also <a href="https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/can-my-parents-take-away-something-i-bought-with-m-1323337.html" rel="nofollow ugc">this</a>.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 18:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann in L.A.:

There are ways to do it without cutting off the internet.  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.pcworld.com/article/452439/how-to-child-proof-the-internet.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;See this&lt;/a&gt;, for example.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann in L.A.:</p>
<p>There are ways to do it without cutting off the internet.  <a href="https://www.pcworld.com/article/452439/how-to-child-proof-the-internet.html" rel="nofollow ugc">See this</a>, for example.</p>
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		By: Ann in L.A.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 18:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A lot of this stuff is also accessible through a web browser, so unless parents are cutting off the internet itself, kids will still be able to access it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of this stuff is also accessible through a web browser, so unless parents are cutting off the internet itself, kids will still be able to access it.</p>
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		By: miguel+cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 17:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the movie review by Drinker Mauler and stuff along with Ryan George&#039;s pitch meetings better than most films,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the movie review by Drinker Mauler and stuff along with Ryan George&#8217;s pitch meetings better than most films,</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 17:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Huxley at 12:02 a.m.

Ironically, I now find some commercials more interesting than the programs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huxley at 12:02 a.m.</p>
<p>Ironically, I now find some commercials more interesting than the programs.</p>
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		By: Abraxas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 16:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a range between kids who are always on their phone alone playing games or checking out social media, and kids who are always using their phones to connect with their friends.  I wonder if they&#039;re both affected in the same way by technology.

The Atlantic has another article about smart phones and kids &lt;a href=&quot;https://archive.is/25d4b&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  Some of the effects -- isolation, no dating or sex, no rush to drive -- were common in bookish kids in earlier generation, but then, we had books and could build something out of that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a range between kids who are always on their phone alone playing games or checking out social media, and kids who are always using their phones to connect with their friends.  I wonder if they&#8217;re both affected in the same way by technology.</p>
<p>The Atlantic has another article about smart phones and kids <a href="https://archive.is/25d4b" rel="nofollow ugc">here</a>.  Some of the effects &#8212; isolation, no dating or sex, no rush to drive &#8212; were common in bookish kids in earlier generation, but then, we had books and could build something out of that.</p>
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		By: miguel+cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 16:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[they were put in a skinner box for the better part of three years, I don&#039;t think that happened with robinson crusoe,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they were put in a skinner box for the better part of three years, I don&#8217;t think that happened with robinson crusoe,</p>
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