Comments on: It’s the tenth anniversary of the disappearance of Flight MH370 https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/08/its-the-tenth-anniversary-of-the-disappearance-of-flight-mh370/ A blog about political change, among other things Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:00:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Richard+Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/08/its-the-tenth-anniversary-of-the-disappearance-of-flight-mh370/#comment-2728269 Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:00:33 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=132883#comment-2728269 Rufus.
Thanks. But I came around on the roster like the other guys.
Point is, if the man is dead, there’s still a matter of horror, or at least some consolation when there’s nothing else.
One reason for the families to want to know, against who knows what imaginings

]]> By: om https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/08/its-the-tenth-anniversary-of-the-disappearance-of-flight-mh370/#comment-2728258 Mon, 11 Mar 2024 14:00:03 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=132883#comment-2728258 The Western Front Association YouTube videos have lead in songs for the segments, usually historian lectures. One song is “Hanging on the old barbed wire”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging_on_the_Old_Barbed_Wire

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If you want to find the private I know where he is.

I know where he is.

I know where he is.

If you want to find the private I know where he is.

Hanging on the old barbed wire.

Not knowing where he (they) are or what happened to them takes a toll (understatement x 11).

]]> By: Rufus T. Firefly https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/08/its-the-tenth-anniversary-of-the-disappearance-of-flight-mh370/#comment-2728256 Mon, 11 Mar 2024 13:17:21 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=132883#comment-2728256 Richard Aubrey,

Wow! That is really tough work. I can’t imagine. You are a strong man to take those assignments on!

Regarding the passengers on the flight, I thought I read somewhere that there is a good chance the pilot turned off the oxygen to the cabin long before descent and they all nodded off to a sleep they never woke up from. Isn’t that the theory of why there was likely no struggle with the copilot? He told the copilot to take a bathroom/leg stretch break then turned off the oxygen to the main cabin?

]]> By: Richard+Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/08/its-the-tenth-anniversary-of-the-disappearance-of-flight-mh370/#comment-2728208 Sun, 10 Mar 2024 20:17:28 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=132883#comment-2728208 I’ve had two views of “closure” for a long time. Finally decided that if somebody feels a need for closure, then he feels a need for closure. Not slinging new-age psychdom around. Not my call.
There’s an issue with closure, in terms of knowing what happened. Back in the day, Notifying Next of Kin, I had to park about a minute’s walk away from the home I was about to destroy. By the time I got there, I was followed by maybe a dozen neighbors, with more coming.
One said one of the inevitables; Shakily trying to light a cigarette, “Hell of a job they gave you.”
And then the other. “Was it…quick?”
In SEA, the likelihood of hanging on the wire for three days, praying for something to come along and kill you was pretty small. So not like WW I, then.
But I was not in a position to know.

Doing Survivor Assistance for another family, kept up with them for one thing or another. About fifteen years later, I found there was to be a monument to the Vietnam dead of the county the following Memorial Day. Tracked the family down and we met for the occasion.
Found Mom was gone….on to other subjects.
Couple of years ago, I found Mom had killed herself five years after I knocked on their door.

I tracked down my guy’s alumni club and asked for the circumstances. Heavy round to the head, they assured me. Of course they would. Because that would be “quick” and they felt they owed it to me and through me to the family.
In reality, he had died “in surgery”, which in some fashion had been made known to the family.

WRT the current issue…yeah it’s quick if you hit the water at four hundred miles an hour after thirty seconds of screaming fear in an uncontrolled dive. That would be, relatively speaking, a relief for the families.
But is that what REALLY happened, some of them may be asking themselves. What if some physics-denying landing on the water with two hours of watching the water creeping up inside the passenger compartment.
(OCD freaks butt right the eff out. Point is not what you think can happen but what somebody’s loved one might be imagining in long hours of wondering.)

You never argue with the bereaved family. My father had a high school friend killed very late in the Pacific War. The mother said if we’d only had the bomb sooner, Arthur would be with us today. Given the relative dates, it was practically a mathematical certainty. Poor woman was so distraught, she thought it was the Jews who delayed the use of the bomb.
No point in arguing with the mother. She’s entitled. Nobody else has to believe that, but you just make soothing words and move on to how active he was on the track team his senior year.

]]> By: DisGuested https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/08/its-the-tenth-anniversary-of-the-disappearance-of-flight-mh370/#comment-2728084 Sat, 09 Mar 2024 22:41:07 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=132883#comment-2728084 Neo: Thanks for the link. Interesting, seems they should’ve been able to get a ping from it given the details relayed in the article.
From the Netflix trailer description:”At 2:22 AM Malaysian military radar lost contact with the plane over the Andaman Sea. An Inmarsat satellite in geostationary orbit over the Indian Ocean received hourly signals from flight 370 and detected the plane for the final time at 8:11 AM.” Where was it at 8:11AM? Had it been flying all that time? Guess I will have to watch the documentary.

]]> By: neo https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/08/its-the-tenth-anniversary-of-the-disappearance-of-flight-mh370/#comment-2728081 Sat, 09 Mar 2024 22:11:16 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=132883#comment-2728081 DisGuested:

The black box has long since stopped emitting signals, but I assume that, if found and if intact (two enormous “ifs”) it’s within the realm of possibility that some information could be retrieved from it.

]]> By: neo https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/08/its-the-tenth-anniversary-of-the-disappearance-of-flight-mh370/#comment-2728080 Sat, 09 Mar 2024 22:04:13 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=132883#comment-2728080 Phillip Sells:

Not having any remains of 9/11 victims is hard for the families and friends who face that particular situation (many do have remains, but many don’t and probably never will). But I don’t see much analogy to MH370, because with 9/11 at least we know exactly what happened on 9/11, why, and where, and there is now a memorial at that spot.

]]> By: Philip Sells https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/08/its-the-tenth-anniversary-of-the-disappearance-of-flight-mh370/#comment-2728068 Sat, 09 Mar 2024 21:34:58 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=132883#comment-2728068 Regarding the lack of physical remains in the case of MH 370, I wonder if it’s analogous to the experiences of the survivors of those killed on 9/11.

]]> By: DisGuested https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/08/its-the-tenth-anniversary-of-the-disappearance-of-flight-mh370/#comment-2728066 Sat, 09 Mar 2024 21:28:34 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=132883#comment-2728066 Grief is not a doorway, it’s a corridor; for some that hallway is longer.
Doctors are good at compartmentalizing. They have to be.
Is it possible the black box could be recovered and provide some answers?
I found it odd that the passenger Paul Weeks, a mechanical engineer from Australia, gave his wedding ring and watch to his wife to give to his sons if anything happened to him. He was just going off on a job…
I read a novel once where an entire plane was taken down just to get one person who was on board but making it seem accidental.

]]> By: neo https://thenewneo.com/2024/03/08/its-the-tenth-anniversary-of-the-disappearance-of-flight-mh370/#comment-2728058 Sat, 09 Mar 2024 21:15:38 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=132883#comment-2728058 Cicero:

I never said they expected to find bodies. I brought up the lack of bodies, and the lack of evidence of what happened to the plane, to explain their continuing need to find at least some sort of evidence. I think almost anyone would feel the same.

Finding some pieces of the plane washing up on land has helped somewhat, I think, but there’s no reason to not seek more answers. It might be possible to find the actual wreckage unless it’s completely broken up and there’s no such site at all. We don’t yet know.

My point is that it’s understandable – and even rational – to want to know more. Even people (perhaps most people) who are not relatives want to know.

Also, there is no evidence that the families and friends are dysfunctional in their grieving. Grief often lasts in some form or other for a lifetime and is not necessarily disabling.

And I believe it was especially your “boo hoo” comment that disturbed people here and made it seem as though you not only lack compassion but are mocking the families’ grief. I doubt you really meant to do that but it certainly gave that appearance.

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