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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/02/26/the-siege-of-london-inside-the-gates/#comment-2726276</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2024 07:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Rufus in re Thiel &#062; &quot;And then I think the challenge is that there are no other doors. Those are the three options.&quot;

Insane as it seems, we appear to have a political/social Left that wants to have all three at once.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rufus in re Thiel &gt; &#8220;And then I think the challenge is that there are no other doors. Those are the three options.&#8221;</p>
<p>Insane as it seems, we appear to have a political/social Left that wants to have all three at once.</p>
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		By: Richard+Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/02/26/the-siege-of-london-inside-the-gates/#comment-2726167</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard+Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2024 19:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Use search terms &quot;Rotherham &quot;,and &quot;multicultural boat&quot;,, Sick making.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use search terms &#8220;Rotherham &#8220;,and &#8220;multicultural boat&#8221;,, Sick making.</p>
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		By: Roll-aid		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/02/26/the-siege-of-london-inside-the-gates/#comment-2726141</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roll-aid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2024 16:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Remember, all, that the United Kingdom posses nuclear arms and the means to deliver them.  Sit quietly and think about that.  

Add in the fact that British atomic weapons and systems depend in a large part on US know-how and support.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, all, that the United Kingdom posses nuclear arms and the means to deliver them.  Sit quietly and think about that.  </p>
<p>Add in the fact that British atomic weapons and systems depend in a large part on US know-how and support.</p>
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		By: Chazzand		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chazzand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2024 15:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The pessimist in me agrees with you Neo. The optimist in me recalls the poem by Rudyard Kipling, &quot;The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon&quot;. There&#039;s a resilient history and a strong strain of DNA in these people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pessimist in me agrees with you Neo. The optimist in me recalls the poem by Rudyard Kipling, &#8220;The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon&#8221;. There&#8217;s a resilient history and a strong strain of DNA in these people.</p>
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		By: Crusty Old Codger		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/02/26/the-siege-of-london-inside-the-gates/#comment-2726121</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crusty Old Codger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do a web search on &quot;jihad through immigration.&quot; It&#039;s a real thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do a web search on &#8220;jihad through immigration.&#8221; It&#8217;s a real thing.</p>
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		By: Cappy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/02/26/the-siege-of-london-inside-the-gates/#comment-2726118</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s that context again...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s that context again&#8230;</p>
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		By: BrooklynBoy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrooklynBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2024 13:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are three good British channels you might like, &quot;GBN News&quot; which if you have a Roku box you can get the app, the other two are on YouTube &quot;New Culture Forum&quot;, and &quot;TalkTV&quot;. The commenters there are fantastic and excoriate the antisemites and appeasers.  On New Culture Forum one of the commenters, a woman, pointed out what I always felt that Labour and the Left in their pursuit of Muslim support have a dilemma because the Left and the Islamists are not natural allies. The Left supports LGBTQ etc. and transgenderism while Muslims are socially conservative and are virulently opposed to it. In one British town Labour could not decide which side it was on in a school district regarding these issues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are three good British channels you might like, &#8220;GBN News&#8221; which if you have a Roku box you can get the app, the other two are on YouTube &#8220;New Culture Forum&#8221;, and &#8220;TalkTV&#8221;. The commenters there are fantastic and excoriate the antisemites and appeasers.  On New Culture Forum one of the commenters, a woman, pointed out what I always felt that Labour and the Left in their pursuit of Muslim support have a dilemma because the Left and the Islamists are not natural allies. The Left supports LGBTQ etc. and transgenderism while Muslims are socially conservative and are virulently opposed to it. In one British town Labour could not decide which side it was on in a school district regarding these issues.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2024 13:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; Chases Eagles on February 26, 2024 at 8:30 pm said:
&quot;Who would fight Ivan for this? What comes next is mass starvation.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It appears that many young men are simply checking out and unwilling to defend anything - except presumably their own lives . If that is, YouTube trends are to be believed.

And that disengagement from comittment to, or legal and moral entanglement in, a losing proposition, includes a stance toward some women who seem to have become from one point of view, their point of view, remarkably dysfunctional and toxic. 

And that is not in the clinically psychological sense as described by Pew which I have been marvelling at, but moral. And that unlike the startling Pew research report of two years ago, does not even seem to be news.

From 2005
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/slut-culture/article739822/

Our &quot; society&quot; then, taken as an aggregate of associations with regard to which one is expected to pledge allegiance or loyalty or at least express some fellow feeling, has become &quot;de-moralized&quot;. The overarching associative game no longer being seen as worth the cost of the candle the ordering rules and customs a dead letter, the prize negligible. This, is to the alarm of many professional conservatives who blather on about sheepdogs and male sacrifice as if those concepts could somehow stir the disaffected who sneer at both the game as constituted, and the players.

This does not mean there are not still competitions to be engaged in and diversions to be found and enjoyed as the old anthropological foundations evaporate away. It just means that it will no longer be deliberately propped up and its value affirmed as an article of faith, although mere living does some of that ... like burning calories while you sleep.

It&#039;s just that when individuals look at their erstwhile fellows their first reaction in a significant number of cases is, &quot;You&#039;re, not worth the trouble&quot; 

Secular moralists have been commenting for thousands of years now, about  how when societies reach a certain comfort level wherein the costs of laxness can be deferred or absorbed by stored capital, and exemptions from the rules become the rule, some significant portion of the population becomes frivolous, cruel, self destructive and nihilistic. Or perhaps they were always disposed in that manner, but the material and moral conditions were not such that they could get away with it.

Regardless, we might get to see how that plays out in our own lifetimes.

The question then will be, with whom and what do you keep faith, and who and what do you write off?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Chases Eagles on February 26, 2024 at 8:30 pm said:<br />
&#8220;Who would fight Ivan for this? What comes next is mass starvation.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>It appears that many young men are simply checking out and unwilling to defend anything &#8211; except presumably their own lives . If that is, YouTube trends are to be believed.</p>
<p>And that disengagement from comittment to, or legal and moral entanglement in, a losing proposition, includes a stance toward some women who seem to have become from one point of view, their point of view, remarkably dysfunctional and toxic. </p>
<p>And that is not in the clinically psychological sense as described by Pew which I have been marvelling at, but moral. And that unlike the startling Pew research report of two years ago, does not even seem to be news.</p>
<p>From 2005<br />
<a href="https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/slut-culture/article739822/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/slut-culture/article739822/</a></p>
<p>Our &#8221; society&#8221; then, taken as an aggregate of associations with regard to which one is expected to pledge allegiance or loyalty or at least express some fellow feeling, has become &#8220;de-moralized&#8221;. The overarching associative game no longer being seen as worth the cost of the candle the ordering rules and customs a dead letter, the prize negligible. This, is to the alarm of many professional conservatives who blather on about sheepdogs and male sacrifice as if those concepts could somehow stir the disaffected who sneer at both the game as constituted, and the players.</p>
<p>This does not mean there are not still competitions to be engaged in and diversions to be found and enjoyed as the old anthropological foundations evaporate away. It just means that it will no longer be deliberately propped up and its value affirmed as an article of faith, although mere living does some of that &#8230; like burning calories while you sleep.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that when individuals look at their erstwhile fellows their first reaction in a significant number of cases is, &#8220;You&#8217;re, not worth the trouble&#8221; </p>
<p>Secular moralists have been commenting for thousands of years now, about  how when societies reach a certain comfort level wherein the costs of laxness can be deferred or absorbed by stored capital, and exemptions from the rules become the rule, some significant portion of the population becomes frivolous, cruel, self destructive and nihilistic. Or perhaps they were always disposed in that manner, but the material and moral conditions were not such that they could get away with it.</p>
<p>Regardless, we might get to see how that plays out in our own lifetimes.</p>
<p>The question then will be, with whom and what do you keep faith, and who and what do you write off?</p>
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		By: Richard Cook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Cook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2024 10:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Courage is the foremost virtue. It is the one all the other hang on. The cowardice of Britain has cost them their country. Of course the World&#039;s Greatest Statesman knew:

If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed;
if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may
come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Courage is the foremost virtue. It is the one all the other hang on. The cowardice of Britain has cost them their country. Of course the World&#8217;s Greatest Statesman knew:</p>
<p>If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed;<br />
if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may<br />
come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.</p>
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		By: Yancey+Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey+Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2024 04:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The tipping point, in my opinion is about 20% of the population.  A minority can dominate if it is ruthless enough and its opposition isn&#039;t.  What is left of old Europe is exactly that- old-and unwilling or unable to fight.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tipping point, in my opinion is about 20% of the population.  A minority can dominate if it is ruthless enough and its opposition isn&#8217;t.  What is left of old Europe is exactly that- old-and unwilling or unable to fight.</p>
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