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		By: TR		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 19:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi DNW, 

 You bet, I agree. 
 
 To me, the [group of Democrats + the liberals, who love the dumb politics of Barbara Streisand, and others], are like: [spoiled, selfish, pet cats]...who don&#039;t care about anyone, and they don&#039;t even care about the people who take care of them.

 If the spoiled pet CATS 1) don&#039;t get what they WANT, + get mad, or 2) if they wreck the places that they live in, and get mad-

then they can always run away, to another place or town, and find [someone else] to feed them, and to take care of them.

 And then [those spoiled, bratty cats] might then turn around - and wreck the NEW place that they have found. 

 (Please don&#039;t put up with bad cats, or with bad neighbors. That is my opinion.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DNW, </p>
<p> You bet, I agree. </p>
<p> To me, the [group of Democrats + the liberals, who love the dumb politics of Barbara Streisand, and others], are like: [spoiled, selfish, pet cats]&#8230;who don&#8217;t care about anyone, and they don&#8217;t even care about the people who take care of them.</p>
<p> If the spoiled pet CATS 1) don&#8217;t get what they WANT, + get mad, or 2) if they wreck the places that they live in, and get mad-</p>
<p>then they can always run away, to another place or town, and find [someone else] to feed them, and to take care of them.</p>
<p> And then [those spoiled, bratty cats] might then turn around &#8211; and wreck the NEW place that they have found. </p>
<p> (Please don&#8217;t put up with bad cats, or with bad neighbors. That is my opinion.)</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan writes.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Referring to the question DNW asked on an earlier thread: how much sympathy should we have for the residents, who elected the government that has facilitated all of these problems?
I wonder how the hardware store owners voted.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know offhand how the hardware store owners of Portland or Seattle voted when the going was good and no one had yet caught the backflow in their faces.

But by 2019, the progressive reaction to Trump was already causing the soy drinking class to lose its mind and convert its own municipalities into hellscapes reflective of the complete implementation of their mindsets. https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-cost-of-bad-intentions

But the fact is that in the recent case of a particularly notorious D.A. named Mike Schmidt had 77 % support at the polls.

I wrote: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;... what is wrong with the ‘let them reap what they have sown’ attitude in principle – particularly if it can be limited to the sowers?

Should anyone not them, care if progressive Frenchmen, Britons, Swedes, or residents of Delaware or California, suffer as agents of their own destruction?&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;


And, Willamette Week wrote, 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;In Portland, many liberals are dodging stray bullets, losing catalytic converters to thieves, and sidestepping tents. Then they open their tax bills.

Maybe they aren’t voting Republican. But some are voting with their feet ...

Katie Schneider ... moved to the Woodlawn neighborhood of Northeast Portland in 2009, and ... quickly grew accustomed to the occasional sound of gunfire outside her house.

Then someone opened fire from a car on a summer evening in 2020, killing 22-year-old Jordan Lee Lewis on Dekum Street, just around the corner from her house ...

Seven months later, after putting her kids to bed, a car crashed in the intersection in front of her house. Her husband found a man, gut-shot and bleeding. ... police found 60 shell casings in the street.

In April 2021, two months after the car crash, they moved to a rented house in Vancouver, where she worked as a school counselor. 

Schneider, 42, is a liberal who—still—loves Portland. But she couldn’t raise her family in a city where leaders don’t seem to have any solutions, despite having coffers full of taxpayers’ money&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

https://www.wweek.com/news/2023/02/01/they-left-portland-is-losing-some-of-its-biggest-fans/

They havent abandoned their political and social views though. Since there will always be someone else&#039;s community to flee to, subvert and wreck, before the effect of your own activities catch up with you and you are forced to move on or die as a result of them.

Now, I don&#039;t mind them living by their principles, but if anyone is to die from the implementation of those insane principles, it should be them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan writes.</p>
<blockquote><p>Referring to the question DNW asked on an earlier thread: how much sympathy should we have for the residents, who elected the government that has facilitated all of these problems?<br />
I wonder how the hardware store owners voted.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know offhand how the hardware store owners of Portland or Seattle voted when the going was good and no one had yet caught the backflow in their faces.</p>
<p>But by 2019, the progressive reaction to Trump was already causing the soy drinking class to lose its mind and convert its own municipalities into hellscapes reflective of the complete implementation of their mindsets. <a href="https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-cost-of-bad-intentions" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-cost-of-bad-intentions</a></p>
<p>But the fact is that in the recent case of a particularly notorious D.A. named Mike Schmidt had 77 % support at the polls.</p>
<p>I wrote: </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; what is wrong with the ‘let them reap what they have sown’ attitude in principle – particularly if it can be limited to the sowers?</p>
<p>Should anyone not them, care if progressive Frenchmen, Britons, Swedes, or residents of Delaware or California, suffer as agents of their own destruction?&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>And, Willamette Week wrote, </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In Portland, many liberals are dodging stray bullets, losing catalytic converters to thieves, and sidestepping tents. Then they open their tax bills.</p>
<p>Maybe they aren’t voting Republican. But some are voting with their feet &#8230;</p>
<p>Katie Schneider &#8230; moved to the Woodlawn neighborhood of Northeast Portland in 2009, and &#8230; quickly grew accustomed to the occasional sound of gunfire outside her house.</p>
<p>Then someone opened fire from a car on a summer evening in 2020, killing 22-year-old Jordan Lee Lewis on Dekum Street, just around the corner from her house &#8230;</p>
<p>Seven months later, after putting her kids to bed, a car crashed in the intersection in front of her house. Her husband found a man, gut-shot and bleeding. &#8230; police found 60 shell casings in the street.</p>
<p>In April 2021, two months after the car crash, they moved to a rented house in Vancouver, where she worked as a school counselor. </p>
<p>Schneider, 42, is a liberal who—still—loves Portland. But she couldn’t raise her family in a city where leaders don’t seem to have any solutions, despite having coffers full of taxpayers’ money&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.wweek.com/news/2023/02/01/they-left-portland-is-losing-some-of-its-biggest-fans/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.wweek.com/news/2023/02/01/they-left-portland-is-losing-some-of-its-biggest-fans/</a></p>
<p>They havent abandoned their political and social views though. Since there will always be someone else&#8217;s community to flee to, subvert and wreck, before the effect of your own activities catch up with you and you are forced to move on or die as a result of them.</p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t mind them living by their principles, but if anyone is to die from the implementation of those insane principles, it should be them.</p>
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		By: TR		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/02/23/open-thread-2-23-24/#comment-2725275</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 07:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please read that as, the &quot;Biden White HOUSE&quot;, in my previous comment.

 ...Time for me to put a spellchecker in my computer.
 :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please read that as, the &#8220;Biden White HOUSE&#8221;, in my previous comment.</p>
<p> &#8230;Time for me to put a spellchecker in my computer.<br />
 🙂</p>
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		By: TR		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/02/23/open-thread-2-23-24/#comment-2725269</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 06:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi AesopFan,

 I very much,  totally agree.

 I wonder how we, The USA, look to [the presidents, and other leaders] of other nations, who look at us:

 when our Government CAN&#039;T CONTROL our air space, and CAN&#039;T keep our borders SECURE.

 ...I wonder if I can get an Air Force job, or another US-Military job...all the Biden White seems to do with these military people is:

 have them hang around in the break room, or say, &quot;Yes, that foreign balloon is invading our air space, and our Government&#039;s orders won&#039;t let us do anything about that.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi AesopFan,</p>
<p> I very much,  totally agree.</p>
<p> I wonder how we, The USA, look to [the presidents, and other leaders] of other nations, who look at us:</p>
<p> when our Government CAN&#8217;T CONTROL our air space, and CAN&#8217;T keep our borders SECURE.</p>
<p> &#8230;I wonder if I can get an Air Force job, or another US-Military job&#8230;all the Biden White seems to do with these military people is:</p>
<p> have them hang around in the break room, or say, &#8220;Yes, that foreign balloon is invading our air space, and our Government&#8217;s orders won&#8217;t let us do anything about that.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/02/23/open-thread-2-23-24/#comment-2725265</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 05:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The sad part is how many knitting clubs got political in the last few years, mostly since Trump, and then Covid.

What in the world possesses people to inject ideology into every part of their lives, when there are things it has nothing to do with?

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/03/06/905472/ravelry-ban-on-pro-trump-patterns-unraveled-the-online-knitting-world-censorship-free/

This was the only post I could find on Google&#039;s first page of results that wasn&#039;t a knee-jerk supporter of the Leftist censors and defensive &quot;histories&quot; of activism in past knitting societies (eg supporting the Revolutionary War in America) or tangents on how artistic fabric crafts are ackshually.

At least the authors were willing to quote one of the banned pro-Trump members noting that people who posted pro-Obama and anti-Trump patterns were not kicked out.

Given the size of the group, and its already numerous subgroups, why not just ask political-minded folks to keep to a separate section so as not to offend people who thought otherwise?

Rhetorical question, of course.
Everything inside the Left, nothing outside the Left.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad part is how many knitting clubs got political in the last few years, mostly since Trump, and then Covid.</p>
<p>What in the world possesses people to inject ideology into every part of their lives, when there are things it has nothing to do with?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/03/06/905472/ravelry-ban-on-pro-trump-patterns-unraveled-the-online-knitting-world-censorship-free/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/03/06/905472/ravelry-ban-on-pro-trump-patterns-unraveled-the-online-knitting-world-censorship-free/</a></p>
<p>This was the only post I could find on Google&#8217;s first page of results that wasn&#8217;t a knee-jerk supporter of the Leftist censors and defensive &#8220;histories&#8221; of activism in past knitting societies (eg supporting the Revolutionary War in America) or tangents on how artistic fabric crafts are ackshually.</p>
<p>At least the authors were willing to quote one of the banned pro-Trump members noting that people who posted pro-Obama and anti-Trump patterns were not kicked out.</p>
<p>Given the size of the group, and its already numerous subgroups, why not just ask political-minded folks to keep to a separate section so as not to offend people who thought otherwise?</p>
<p>Rhetorical question, of course.<br />
Everything inside the Left, nothing outside the Left.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/02/23/open-thread-2-23-24/#comment-2725262</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 05:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[More on the Colorado balloon -- I didn&#039;t learn about it in time to go outside and wave hello to our New Overlords.

IMO, if you don&#039;t know / can&#039;t tell from inspection what it&#039;s doing, who it&#039;s from, and why it&#039;s there -- shoot it down.
If someone complains, too bad.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2024/02/23/us-military-tracking-high-altitude-balloon-over-colorado-n2635663]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the Colorado balloon &#8212; I didn&#8217;t learn about it in time to go outside and wave hello to our New Overlords.</p>
<p>IMO, if you don&#8217;t know / can&#8217;t tell from inspection what it&#8217;s doing, who it&#8217;s from, and why it&#8217;s there &#8212; shoot it down.<br />
If someone complains, too bad.</p>
<p><a href="https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2024/02/23/us-military-tracking-high-altitude-balloon-over-colorado-n2635663" rel="nofollow ugc">https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2024/02/23/us-military-tracking-high-altitude-balloon-over-colorado-n2635663</a></p>
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		By: Jordan Rivers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan Rivers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 04:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My late cousin had a top job with a major international conglomerate. His duties included traveling to various offices, deciding who needed to be fired, and then doing so. In the later years of his career he took up knitting, I think because it relaxed him, and he liked to do it on plane trips.

Knitting is an activity that it might be good to see a revival of. Maybe more salubrious than staring at a phone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My late cousin had a top job with a major international conglomerate. His duties included traveling to various offices, deciding who needed to be fired, and then doing so. In the later years of his career he took up knitting, I think because it relaxed him, and he liked to do it on plane trips.</p>
<p>Knitting is an activity that it might be good to see a revival of. Maybe more salubrious than staring at a phone.</p>
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		By: Anne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 04:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo:  Thank you so much. With all that is going on right now and the different conversations here, I really appreciate you taking the time to find this information. I searched and could not get any mention of numbers. I sure must have been using the wrong inquiry terms!  Thank you very much. It means a lot here at this house!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo:  Thank you so much. With all that is going on right now and the different conversations here, I really appreciate you taking the time to find this information. I searched and could not get any mention of numbers. I sure must have been using the wrong inquiry terms!  Thank you very much. It means a lot here at this house!</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 02:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Newsmax headline reads “Some Dems Mulling not Certifying Trump” if he wins the coming election.

Why not? The 14th Amendment’s Insurrection clause is cited here.

Democrat Rep8$ like Zoe Lofgrin and perpetual if not congenital liar Adam Schiff get quoted, both of California,
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/donald-trump-2024-election/2024/02/23/id/1154783/

I suppose what’s good for the corrupted goose, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newsmax headline reads “Some Dems Mulling not Certifying Trump” if he wins the coming election.</p>
<p>Why not? The 14th Amendment’s Insurrection clause is cited here.</p>
<p>Democrat Rep8$ like Zoe Lofgrin and perpetual if not congenital liar Adam Schiff get quoted, both of California,<br />
<a href="https://www.newsmax.com/politics/donald-trump-2024-election/2024/02/23/id/1154783/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.newsmax.com/politics/donald-trump-2024-election/2024/02/23/id/1154783/</a></p>
<p>I suppose what’s good for the corrupted goose, etc.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 02:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Knitting 

I recall a boomlet of knitting interest back in the 00s. Stitch &#039;n Bitch.

Turns out it goes back further than I thought:
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Stitch &#039;n Bitch is a name that has been used to refer to social knitting groups since at least World War II.&lt;/b&gt; Before the slang term &quot;Stitch &#039;n Bitch&quot; was used, groups of women in the 1940s would join to knit and talk in organized Stitch and Bitch clubs. The term was further used in the 1980s as part of the book Social History of American Knitting by Anne Macdonald.[2] It is partly due to the book&#039;s success that the modern day Stitch &#039;n Bitch knitting groups have emerged in cities around the world. The groups, mainly women, meet to knit, stitch and talk. Typically, attendees knit, though others crochet (they are called &#039;Happy Hookers&#039;), and still others engage in cross-stitching, embroidery, and other needlecraft. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stitch_&#039;n_Bitch&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Knitting </p>
<p>I recall a boomlet of knitting interest back in the 00s. Stitch &#8216;n Bitch.</p>
<p>Turns out it goes back further than I thought:<br />
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<p><i><b>Stitch &#8216;n Bitch is a name that has been used to refer to social knitting groups since at least World War II.</b> Before the slang term &#8220;Stitch &#8216;n Bitch&#8221; was used, groups of women in the 1940s would join to knit and talk in organized Stitch and Bitch clubs. The term was further used in the 1980s as part of the book Social History of American Knitting by Anne Macdonald.[2] It is partly due to the book&#8217;s success that the modern day Stitch &#8216;n Bitch knitting groups have emerged in cities around the world. The groups, mainly women, meet to knit, stitch and talk. Typically, attendees knit, though others crochet (they are called &#8216;Happy Hookers&#8217;), and still others engage in cross-stitching, embroidery, and other needlecraft. </p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stitch_&#039;n_Bitch" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stitch_&#039;n_Bitch</a></i></p>
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