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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/01/27/open-thread-1-26-24/#comment-2720725</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2024 12:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan:

Nightshade sounds like a good start to deal with our pan-speciest insect overlords, the googly bastards (they only want the best for us (sarc x 11).

This is following on the veneration of climate science based on climate models that can&#039;t portray recent weather but which are so good are trusted to destroy an entire civilization.  Again, for our own good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan:</p>
<p>Nightshade sounds like a good start to deal with our pan-speciest insect overlords, the googly bastards (they only want the best for us (sarc x 11).</p>
<p>This is following on the veneration of climate science based on climate models that can&#8217;t portray recent weather but which are so good are trusted to destroy an entire civilization.  Again, for our own good.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2024 08:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Climate change is pretty amazing, actually.
There is NOTHING it cannot do....
https://blazingcatfur.ca/2024/01/28/wtf-1905/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate change is pretty amazing, actually.<br />
There is NOTHING it cannot do&#8230;.<br />
<a href="https://blazingcatfur.ca/2024/01/28/wtf-1905/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://blazingcatfur.ca/2024/01/28/wtf-1905/</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/01/27/open-thread-1-26-24/#comment-2720715</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2024 06:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ J.J. &#062; &quot;Yet, the climate change cult wants us to go back to living as we did in the 1800s based on computer models that have incorrectly forecast much more warming than has been observed.&quot;

I&#039;m not going.
https://accordingtohoyt.files.wordpress.com/2024/01/421788127_10160102862838247_2328282382069518772_n.jpg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ J.J. &gt; &#8220;Yet, the climate change cult wants us to go back to living as we did in the 1800s based on computer models that have incorrectly forecast much more warming than has been observed.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going.<br />
<a href="https://accordingtohoyt.files.wordpress.com/2024/01/421788127_10160102862838247_2328282382069518772_n.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://accordingtohoyt.files.wordpress.com/2024/01/421788127_10160102862838247_2328282382069518772_n.jpg</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2024 06:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ huxley mostly, but could be interesting to anyone looking at AI with a skeptical eye.
https://notthebee.com/article/creatives-fight-back-with-nightshade-a-new-software-that-poisons-ai-models

It&#039;s about using a software filter on visual postings, such as original artwork, to keep them from being &quot;scraped&quot; by the AI engines that power the &quot;free&quot; digital artwork.

I wonder if people might use a variant to sabotage written postings as well, to contaminate the data pool used by AI.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ huxley mostly, but could be interesting to anyone looking at AI with a skeptical eye.<br />
<a href="https://notthebee.com/article/creatives-fight-back-with-nightshade-a-new-software-that-poisons-ai-models" rel="nofollow ugc">https://notthebee.com/article/creatives-fight-back-with-nightshade-a-new-software-that-poisons-ai-models</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s about using a software filter on visual postings, such as original artwork, to keep them from being &#8220;scraped&#8221; by the AI engines that power the &#8220;free&#8221; digital artwork.</p>
<p>I wonder if people might use a variant to sabotage written postings as well, to contaminate the data pool used by AI.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2024 06:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[physicsguy— as a physicist, you are not alone in rejecting Sabine Hossenfelder’s apparent gullibility. 

Yong Tuition — an immigrant to Australia did his doctorate in physics there, before turning to science teaching — has replied twice on YT to Sabine. His second one is here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWyxfmHJcd0

Yong Tuition has appeared once or twice on Tom Nelson’s climate realist podcasts.

He raises significant points, especially pointing out her failure to do the homework, and instead regurgitates talking points. Too often, ignorant ones.

But Yong also misses an opportunity in his otherwise direct critique. For example, pointing out her unsuitable background to weigh CO2 induced ocean acidification is a true, but weak correction.

The claim is implausible on a quantitative basis. In addition, corals, typically claimed to be vulnerable, evolved to thrive in significantly warmer past temperatures. And third, alarums based on sea temperature change miss the fact that there is no standard ocean temperature measurement for past seas to even know what’s “normal.” Fourth, chaotic turbidity in oceans is
very high.

As a marine ecologist from UC-Santa Barbara explained to me, it is impossible even model the continental shelf’s ecology. It would require overwhelming amounts of data.

Dr. Yong is concise and quick. But his thick accented English can be a real barrier to comprehension, going by my own ears. 

But I have to admit, I am yet to listen to Sabine H’s talks on climate change,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>physicsguy— as a physicist, you are not alone in rejecting Sabine Hossenfelder’s apparent gullibility. </p>
<p>Yong Tuition — an immigrant to Australia did his doctorate in physics there, before turning to science teaching — has replied twice on YT to Sabine. His second one is here.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWyxfmHJcd0" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWyxfmHJcd0</a></p>
<p>Yong Tuition has appeared once or twice on Tom Nelson’s climate realist podcasts.</p>
<p>He raises significant points, especially pointing out her failure to do the homework, and instead regurgitates talking points. Too often, ignorant ones.</p>
<p>But Yong also misses an opportunity in his otherwise direct critique. For example, pointing out her unsuitable background to weigh CO2 induced ocean acidification is a true, but weak correction.</p>
<p>The claim is implausible on a quantitative basis. In addition, corals, typically claimed to be vulnerable, evolved to thrive in significantly warmer past temperatures. And third, alarums based on sea temperature change miss the fact that there is no standard ocean temperature measurement for past seas to even know what’s “normal.” Fourth, chaotic turbidity in oceans is<br />
very high.</p>
<p>As a marine ecologist from UC-Santa Barbara explained to me, it is impossible even model the continental shelf’s ecology. It would require overwhelming amounts of data.</p>
<p>Dr. Yong is concise and quick. But his thick accented English can be a real barrier to comprehension, going by my own ears. </p>
<p>But I have to admit, I am yet to listen to Sabine H’s talks on climate change,</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2024 22:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;. Les Champs-Elysées &#124; Joe Dassin &#124; Pomplamoose ft. John Schroeder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B4CLQGxHmI&lt;/i&gt;

Oblio:

Total keeper! 

I will get to the Champs-Elysses. I will speak to the natives, haltingly, I don&#039;t expect much after that.

I am aware that much of my compulsion to learn French is based on a fantasy, which I don&#039;t expect  to be fulfilled. Yet it drives me, gives me joy, and seems constructive, so, fine. 

I wonder how other people arrange their lives.

PS. Good to see you again!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>. Les Champs-Elysées | Joe Dassin | Pomplamoose ft. John Schroeder<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B4CLQGxHmI" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B4CLQGxHmI</a></i></p>
<p>Oblio:</p>
<p>Total keeper! </p>
<p>I will get to the Champs-Elysses. I will speak to the natives, haltingly, I don&#8217;t expect much after that.</p>
<p>I am aware that much of my compulsion to learn French is based on a fantasy, which I don&#8217;t expect  to be fulfilled. Yet it drives me, gives me joy, and seems constructive, so, fine. </p>
<p>I wonder how other people arrange their lives.</p>
<p>PS. Good to see you again!</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2024 21:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Principalities and powers]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Principalities and powers</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2024 21:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cannot disagree on that point maybe the world of john constantine is as close to the point]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannot disagree on that point maybe the world of john constantine is as close to the point</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2024 21:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S.--If you want to view what is going on here on Earth, right now, as just the latest episode in the eternal battle between Good and Evil, well, it seems to me that the forces of the Good are increasingly losing ground, and have been for quite few years, say, especially since the 1960s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.&#8211;If you want to view what is going on here on Earth, right now, as just the latest episode in the eternal battle between Good and Evil, well, it seems to me that the forces of the Good are increasingly losing ground, and have been for quite few years, say, especially since the 1960s.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2024 21:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE;  The demonic.

According to Lou Elizondo, some of his superiors at the Pentagon didn&#039;t want him researching UFOs, because they viewed them as being &quot;demonic.&quot;

Meanwhile, back here on Earth, you want to talk about demonic, it seems to me that we are increasingly being treated to examples of, and being surrounded by barbaric, demonic, and/or crazy people.*

*See for example, https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/barbaric-youtuber-20000-subscribers-arrested-pennsylvania-torturing-killing/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE;  The demonic.</p>
<p>According to Lou Elizondo, some of his superiors at the Pentagon didn&#8217;t want him researching UFOs, because they viewed them as being &#8220;demonic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meanwhile, back here on Earth, you want to talk about demonic, it seems to me that we are increasingly being treated to examples of, and being surrounded by barbaric, demonic, and/or crazy people.*</p>
<p>*See for example, <a href="https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/barbaric-youtuber-20000-subscribers-arrested-pennsylvania-torturing-killing/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/barbaric-youtuber-20000-subscribers-arrested-pennsylvania-torturing-killing/</a></p>
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