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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Cicero - And as an addendum to my earlier comment, the other strategy of the Left is supported by the quote from Ace in Neo&#039;s DOJ post:
&quot;And then they lied and lied and lied to the American public.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Cicero &#8211; And as an addendum to my earlier comment, the other strategy of the Left is supported by the quote from Ace in Neo&#8217;s DOJ post:<br />
&#8220;And then they lied and lied and lied to the American public.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2024 01:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Truth requires that the  word Nazi in German is short for National Socialism. Unlike  what the MSM tells us, Nazis were LEFTIST.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth requires that the  word Nazi in German is short for National Socialism. Unlike  what the MSM tells us, Nazis were LEFTIST.</p>
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		By: David Foster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Foster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 21:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hitler and Hindenburg...yes, Hitler was *appointed* Chancellor, not elected. (Just a few years earlier, Hindenburg had mocked the idea: &quot;That man as Chancellor? I&#039;ll make him postmaster and he can lick stamps with my head on them!)

But there was indeed an election in March, 1933. Here&#039;s how it went down:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1933_German_federal_election]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hitler and Hindenburg&#8230;yes, Hitler was *appointed* Chancellor, not elected. (Just a few years earlier, Hindenburg had mocked the idea: &#8220;That man as Chancellor? I&#8217;ll make him postmaster and he can lick stamps with my head on them!)</p>
<p>But there was indeed an election in March, 1933. Here&#8217;s how it went down:</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1933_German_federal_election" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1933_German_federal_election</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 09:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meanwhile, &quot;Biden&quot;&#039;s herculean efforts to TRANSFORM the USA are continuing oh-so-successfully...

&quot;Why American cities are squalid;
&quot;Human flourishing is seen as dirty&quot;...
https://archive.is/9sEAy
H/T Blazingcatfur blog.
(Not even sure that America at this point qualifies as even a Third-World country....)
- - - - - - - - - 
(All this talk about Schicklgruber and Trump and National Socialists and so-called &quot;Trumpists&quot;...but wasn&#039;t Biden also &quot;elected&quot; um, &quot;democratically&quot;---make that &quot;elected&quot; &quot;fortifiedly&quot;---and, hey, what about antifa and BLM, the Democratic Party street-fighting schock troops...not to mention all those Cease-Fire Warriors...in support of butchery, mutilation, rape, hostage-taking, enthusiastic rocket, missile firing and destroying countries...IOW &quot;the---new, apparently---American Way&quot;)?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, &#8220;Biden&#8221;&#8216;s herculean efforts to TRANSFORM the USA are continuing oh-so-successfully&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Why American cities are squalid;<br />
&#8220;Human flourishing is seen as dirty&#8221;&#8230;<br />
<a href="https://archive.is/9sEAy" rel="nofollow ugc">https://archive.is/9sEAy</a><br />
H/T Blazingcatfur blog.<br />
(Not even sure that America at this point qualifies as even a Third-World country&#8230;.)<br />
&#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211;<br />
(All this talk about Schicklgruber and Trump and National Socialists and so-called &#8220;Trumpists&#8221;&#8230;but wasn&#8217;t Biden also &#8220;elected&#8221; um, &#8220;democratically&#8221;&#8212;make that &#8220;elected&#8221; &#8220;fortifiedly&#8221;&#8212;and, hey, what about antifa and BLM, the Democratic Party street-fighting schock troops&#8230;not to mention all those Cease-Fire Warriors&#8230;in support of butchery, mutilation, rape, hostage-taking, enthusiastic rocket, missile firing and destroying countries&#8230;IOW &#8220;the&#8212;new, apparently&#8212;American Way&#8221;)?</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 09:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Neo &#062; &quot;The shock was so great that Hitler threatened to shoot himself.&quot;

This may be the one and only time I would say to a nascent suicide, &quot;Please, do.&quot;

The story of Hindenburg&#039;s final capitulation and appointment of Hitler as Chancellor is an excellent example of how all our past and current tyrants on the Left eventually get their way: they just keep going, and escalate the harassment and intimidation of their opponents instead of accepting defeat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Neo &gt; &#8220;The shock was so great that Hitler threatened to shoot himself.&#8221;</p>
<p>This may be the one and only time I would say to a nascent suicide, &#8220;Please, do.&#8221;</p>
<p>The story of Hindenburg&#8217;s final capitulation and appointment of Hitler as Chancellor is an excellent example of how all our past and current tyrants on the Left eventually get their way: they just keep going, and escalate the harassment and intimidation of their opponents instead of accepting defeat.</p>
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		By: Anne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 07:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maddow and all her classmates are the reason I will continue to vote for Trump. I do think DeSantis would be a good president. I just can&#039;t do another term of RINOS--neither can this country. No more &quot;compromising with evil&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maddow and all her classmates are the reason I will continue to vote for Trump. I do think DeSantis would be a good president. I just can&#8217;t do another term of RINOS&#8211;neither can this country. No more &#8220;compromising with evil&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Jordan Rivers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan Rivers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 06:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Nonapod: And what is the point of preaching to the choir anyway?
Neo: Motivating voter turnout.&lt;/i&gt;

Also, boosting viewer numbers and advertising rates.

Promo: &quot;Watch out show about Trump, the man you love to hate!&quot;

&lt;i&gt;liberal talking heads endlessly screeching about Trump being basically Hitler 2.0 and claiming that the country will become a nightmarish, authoritarian hellscape&lt;/i&gt;

The irony is that we are on well our way to that hellscape under the Biden junta, and that Trumpism leads to a freer, happier, more prosperous country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nonapod: And what is the point of preaching to the choir anyway?<br />
Neo: Motivating voter turnout.</i></p>
<p>Also, boosting viewer numbers and advertising rates.</p>
<p>Promo: &#8220;Watch out show about Trump, the man you love to hate!&#8221;</p>
<p><i>liberal talking heads endlessly screeching about Trump being basically Hitler 2.0 and claiming that the country will become a nightmarish, authoritarian hellscape</i></p>
<p>The irony is that we are on well our way to that hellscape under the Biden junta, and that Trumpism leads to a freer, happier, more prosperous country.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 05:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SHIREHOME:

No, he was not elected.  Absolutely not elected. Please &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2006/01/26/hamas-wins-and-now-we-get-to-see-if/&quot;&gt;read the link I posted&lt;/a&gt; in the previous comment. His party got about a third, but could not put together a coalition.  Then there were two elections for president which he lost to Hindenburg.   There was the proverbial &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitlerdemo.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;backroom deal&lt;/a&gt;&quot;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;n 1932, hoping to establish a clear government by majority rule, Hindenburg held two presidential elections. Hitler, among others, ran against him. A vote for Hindenburg was a vote to continue the German Republic, while a vote for Hitler was a vote against it. The Nazi party made the most clever use of propaganda, as well as the most extensive use of violence. Bloody street battles erupted between Communists and Nazis thugs, and many political figures were murdered.

In the first election, held on March 13, 1932, Hitler received 30 percent of the vote, losing badly to Hindenburg’s 49.6 percent. But because Hindenburg had just missed an absolute majority, a run-off election was scheduled a month later. On April 10, 1932, Hitler increased his share of the vote to 37 percent, but Hindenburg again won, this time with a decisive 53 percent. A clear majority of the voters had thus declared their preference for a democratic republic.

However, the balance of power in the Reichstag was still unstable, lacking a majority party or coalition to rule the government. All too frequently, Hindenburg had to evoke the dictatorial powers available to him under Article 48 of the constitution to break up the political stalemate. In an attempt to resolve this crisis, he called for more elections. On July 31, 1932, the Nazis won 230 out of 608 seats in the Reichstag, making them its largest party. Still, they did not command the majority needed to elect Hitler Chancellor.

In another election on November 6, 1932, the Nazis lost 34 seats in the Reichstag, reducing their total to 196. And for the first time it looked as if the Nazi threat would fade. This was for several reasons. First, the Nazis’ violence and rhetoric had hardened opposition against Hitler, and it was becoming obvious that he would never achieve power democratically. Even worse, the Nazi party was running very low on money, and it could no longer afford to operate its expensive propaganda machine. Furthermore, the party was beginning to splinter and rebel under the stress of so many elections. Hitler discovered that Gregor Strasser, one of the Nazis’ highest officials, had been disloyal, attempting to negotiate power for himself behind Hitler’s back. The shock was so great that Hitler threatened to shoot himself.

But at the lowest ebb of the Nazis’ fortunes, the backroom deal presented itself as the solution to all their problems. Deal-making, intrigues and double-crosses had been going on for years now. Schleicher, who had managed to make himself the last German Chancellor before Hitler, would eventually say: “I stayed in power only 57 days, and on each of those days I was betrayed 57 times.” It’s not worth tracking the ins and outs of all these schemes, but the one that got Hitler into power is worth noting.

Hitler’s unexpected savior was Franz von Papen, one of the former Chancellors, a remarkably incompetent man who owed his political career to a personal friendship with Hindenburg. He had been thrown out of power by the much more capable Schleicher, who personally replaced him. To get even, Papen approached Hitler and offered to become “co-chancellors,” if only Hitler would join him in a coalition to overthrow Schleicher. Hitler responded that only he could be the head of government, while Papen’s supporters could be given important cabinet positions. The two reached a tentative agreement to pursue such an alliance, even though secretly they were planning to double-cross each other.

Meanwhile Schleicher was failing spectacularly in his attempts to form a coalition government, so Hindenburg forced his resignation. But by now, Hindenburg was exhausted by all the intrigue and crisis, and the prospect of civil war had moved the steely field marshal to tears. As much as he hated to do so, he seemed resigned to offering Hitler a high government position. Many people were urging him to do so: the industrialists who were financing Hitler, the military whose connections Hitler had cultivated, even Hindenburg’s son, whom some historians believe the Nazis had blackmailed. The last straw came when an unfounded rumor swept through Berlin that Schleicher was about to attempt a military coup, arrest Hindenburg, and establish a military dictatorship. Alarmed, Hindenburg wasted no time offering Hitler the Chancellorship, thinking it was a last resort to save the Republic.

On January 30, 1933, Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SHIREHOME:</p>
<p>No, he was not elected.  Absolutely not elected. Please <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2006/01/26/hamas-wins-and-now-we-get-to-see-if/">read the link I posted</a> in the previous comment. His party got about a third, but could not put together a coalition.  Then there were two elections for president which he lost to Hindenburg.   There was the proverbial &#8220;<a href="http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitlerdemo.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">backroom deal</a>&#8220;:</p>
<blockquote><p>n 1932, hoping to establish a clear government by majority rule, Hindenburg held two presidential elections. Hitler, among others, ran against him. A vote for Hindenburg was a vote to continue the German Republic, while a vote for Hitler was a vote against it. The Nazi party made the most clever use of propaganda, as well as the most extensive use of violence. Bloody street battles erupted between Communists and Nazis thugs, and many political figures were murdered.</p>
<p>In the first election, held on March 13, 1932, Hitler received 30 percent of the vote, losing badly to Hindenburg’s 49.6 percent. But because Hindenburg had just missed an absolute majority, a run-off election was scheduled a month later. On April 10, 1932, Hitler increased his share of the vote to 37 percent, but Hindenburg again won, this time with a decisive 53 percent. A clear majority of the voters had thus declared their preference for a democratic republic.</p>
<p>However, the balance of power in the Reichstag was still unstable, lacking a majority party or coalition to rule the government. All too frequently, Hindenburg had to evoke the dictatorial powers available to him under Article 48 of the constitution to break up the political stalemate. In an attempt to resolve this crisis, he called for more elections. On July 31, 1932, the Nazis won 230 out of 608 seats in the Reichstag, making them its largest party. Still, they did not command the majority needed to elect Hitler Chancellor.</p>
<p>In another election on November 6, 1932, the Nazis lost 34 seats in the Reichstag, reducing their total to 196. And for the first time it looked as if the Nazi threat would fade. This was for several reasons. First, the Nazis’ violence and rhetoric had hardened opposition against Hitler, and it was becoming obvious that he would never achieve power democratically. Even worse, the Nazi party was running very low on money, and it could no longer afford to operate its expensive propaganda machine. Furthermore, the party was beginning to splinter and rebel under the stress of so many elections. Hitler discovered that Gregor Strasser, one of the Nazis’ highest officials, had been disloyal, attempting to negotiate power for himself behind Hitler’s back. The shock was so great that Hitler threatened to shoot himself.</p>
<p>But at the lowest ebb of the Nazis’ fortunes, the backroom deal presented itself as the solution to all their problems. Deal-making, intrigues and double-crosses had been going on for years now. Schleicher, who had managed to make himself the last German Chancellor before Hitler, would eventually say: “I stayed in power only 57 days, and on each of those days I was betrayed 57 times.” It’s not worth tracking the ins and outs of all these schemes, but the one that got Hitler into power is worth noting.</p>
<p>Hitler’s unexpected savior was Franz von Papen, one of the former Chancellors, a remarkably incompetent man who owed his political career to a personal friendship with Hindenburg. He had been thrown out of power by the much more capable Schleicher, who personally replaced him. To get even, Papen approached Hitler and offered to become “co-chancellors,” if only Hitler would join him in a coalition to overthrow Schleicher. Hitler responded that only he could be the head of government, while Papen’s supporters could be given important cabinet positions. The two reached a tentative agreement to pursue such an alliance, even though secretly they were planning to double-cross each other.</p>
<p>Meanwhile Schleicher was failing spectacularly in his attempts to form a coalition government, so Hindenburg forced his resignation. But by now, Hindenburg was exhausted by all the intrigue and crisis, and the prospect of civil war had moved the steely field marshal to tears. As much as he hated to do so, he seemed resigned to offering Hitler a high government position. Many people were urging him to do so: the industrialists who were financing Hitler, the military whose connections Hitler had cultivated, even Hindenburg’s son, whom some historians believe the Nazis had blackmailed. The last straw came when an unfounded rumor swept through Berlin that Schleicher was about to attempt a military coup, arrest Hindenburg, and establish a military dictatorship. Alarmed, Hindenburg wasted no time offering Hitler the Chancellorship, thinking it was a last resort to save the Republic.</p>
<p>On January 30, 1933, Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 04:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SteveS: &quot;Mac, as we witnessed during the pandemic the left has definitely become “the man”

Yes, and I could stand that, but what I can&#039;t stand is their continuing to pose as, and probably sincerely see themselves as, the bold rebel underdogs. Really kind of nauseates me.

huxley: [fist bump]

Neo, thanks for the info about Hitler&#039;s rise. I&#039;ve heard &quot;Hitler was democratically elected&quot; a hundred times. Oddly, from the same sort of people who use the word &quot;democracy&quot; as if rule by the numerical majority were the only conceivable good form of government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteveS: &#8220;Mac, as we witnessed during the pandemic the left has definitely become “the man”</p>
<p>Yes, and I could stand that, but what I can&#8217;t stand is their continuing to pose as, and probably sincerely see themselves as, the bold rebel underdogs. Really kind of nauseates me.</p>
<p>huxley: [fist bump]</p>
<p>Neo, thanks for the info about Hitler&#8217;s rise. I&#8217;ve heard &#8220;Hitler was democratically elected&#8221; a hundred times. Oddly, from the same sort of people who use the word &#8220;democracy&#8221; as if rule by the numerical majority were the only conceivable good form of government.</p>
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		By: SHIREHOME		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SHIREHOME]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 03:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo and the election of 1932 - 
 July 1932 the Nazis became the largest party in the Reichstag, albeit short of an absolute majority. 1933 was a pivotal year for Hitler and the Nazi Party. Traditionally, the leader of the party who held the most seats in the Reichstag was appointed Chancellor.

So you could say that he was elected. He was not elected himself but his Party was the largest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo and the election of 1932 &#8211;<br />
 July 1932 the Nazis became the largest party in the Reichstag, albeit short of an absolute majority. 1933 was a pivotal year for Hitler and the Nazi Party. Traditionally, the leader of the party who held the most seats in the Reichstag was appointed Chancellor.</p>
<p>So you could say that he was elected. He was not elected himself but his Party was the largest.</p>
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