Comments on: Haley’s support and other election 2024 matters

By: om

om — Thu, 18 Jan 2024 18:59:00 +0000

Jordan Rivers:

When you get up out of the gutter there is a horse you can ride out on.

By: Abraxas

Abraxas — Thu, 18 Jan 2024 17:46:44 +0000

The Haley campaign reminds me of the Biden campaign 4 years ago. The idea seems to be that the other guy (Trump, of course, but to some extent also Bernie Sanders) is so horrible and unthinkable, that let’s all unite behind Joe or Nikki and overlook their flaws and pretend they’re wonderful, even though we know there’s not that much there with either of them.

By: ComputerLabRat

ComputerLabRat — Thu, 18 Jan 2024 17:25:08 +0000

Desantis…didn’t have Trump’s legal or personal baggage.

Nor did Romney, or Herman Cain, or heck even Trump until he became a Republican. The baggage will be found and/or created and trumpeted from the rooftops 24/7, regardless how nice and good and young the Republican candidate is. They loved McCain until the nomination, and then they hated him. And no one heard of Sarah Palin until she was his VP. She was the first one to get the Trump treatment – how many still cringe when her name is mentioned? After 8 years of Bushitler I was surprised at how nicely Jeb was treated on the national stage. The pattern goes back decades. But it’s moot, in my opinion, if nothing has been done since 2020 to fix the election process, secure the mail in voting, it doesn’t matter who the Republican is.

My bad though on forgetting the post about DeSantis – I had been waiting for him to speak up and say something real about the election problems, and I remember not being impressed with his statement. I mean – he seemed fearless about going after Disney – I guess I wanted to see some of that fire and determination applied to a very real, nationwide problem. He has to know that if this stuff doesn’t get fixed, he won’t be elected president, even if they eliminate Trump somehow.

By: Miguel cervantes

Miguel cervantes — Thu, 18 Jan 2024 14:56:27 +0000

You cant elect anyone sane on the east coast potatoe head hogan is your best bet maybe youngkin can beat the balloting machines but i sort of doubt it

By: Miguel cervantes

Miguel cervantes — Thu, 18 Jan 2024 14:43:06 +0000

Alleged affair you keep falling for this carp

So pence was supposedly seasoned yet he gave all the wrong recommendations

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Thu, 18 Jan 2024 14:00:50 +0000

See Wm. Schneider’s remarks a generation ago on picking a VP candidate. The risks are on the downside (say, a distraction like Geraldine Ferraro or Thomas Eagleton). Your single best guess is that your VP pick will net you 2% of the vote in their home state and that’s it. It benefits you electorally if you can cadge a purple state with it. Otherwise, think about what your VP will be doing once they are sworn in.

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Thu, 18 Jan 2024 13:57:20 +0000

Stefanik is engaging, but she needs more seasoning by holding executive positions and that will have to be at the federal level or in the private sector given New York’s politics. Also, she is antagonistic to the criminal element in the Democratic Party, but she herself is also antagonistic to the social conservative segment. Trump is a roué, but he’s also willing to pay his respects to social conservatives (albeit not consistently). With Stefanik, such respects would be sparing and mostly in regard to the corruption of public education by the DIEYT crowd.

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Thu, 18 Jan 2024 13:50:28 +0000

As for the Vice Presidency as currently constituted, it’s a stupid job which should be abolished.
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The optimal VP is someone who does not mind being second banana, is an experienced executive who could take over without glitches, in broad agreement with the president on policy, capable of giving decent advice and running policy task forces, and capable of going about the business of campaigning without generating distractions or embarrassments. Pence had many of these qualities. The trouble is, he also had, in the words of a blogger I follow, “A spine of the purest cream cheese”.
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What we need in the VP slot is someone who has served as a governor or cabinet secretary who can adjust to being a utility man of modest significance. Not many people fill that bill. Noem might actually, but it’s hard to say.

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Thu, 18 Jan 2024 13:41:59 +0000

The Koch group is anti-Trump and they apparently have sunk a lot of money into Haley.
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The Koch brothers have always been libertarians. My suspicion is that they are real deal libertarians, not poseurs like Tyler Cowen. The trouble with libertarians is that, with an exception here or there, they are open borders enthusiasts.
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I don’t see any indication that Haley is on board with the program of the Koch Institute, just more agreeable to the Koch worldview than is Trump.

By: Bauxite

Bauxite — Thu, 18 Jan 2024 12:52:39 +0000

I wouldn’t put it quite as colorfully as Jordan Rivers, but Kristi Noem’s alleged affair with one of Trump’s top advisors is going to go over like a lead balloon with the electorate. Picking her as VP would be a huge mistake.

Not to mention that a ticket of Trump plus an interior state governor/conservative media darling is not going to run very well on the coasts, and especially the suburbs.

Personally, I think Noem is a bit of a squish, but she hasn’t been portrayed that way. Frankly, she has a lot of the same problems as Haley when it comes to conservative convictions.

The most palatable Trump VP that I’ve seen floated is Doug Burgum. (Yeah, I know, another interior state governor – but he’s not going to scare the coastals as much as Noem.) Stefanik would lean into Trump’s ability to pull votes from outside the traditional GOP base from among working class coastals. Politically, she may be best.