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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[another day ending in y

https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1735976334243799497]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another day ending in y</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1735976334243799497" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1735976334243799497</a></p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/15/open-thread-12-15-23/#comment-2713606</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes a shotgun is something different than a mannlicher carcano rifle, a weapon that was 50 years old, but the action served a purpose for Thomas Dodd, a New Deal Liberal and staunch anticommunist, who they suddenly discovered he was corrupt, but not before infringing our rights to self defense in a quixotic exercise,
his son was full Commie, and later corrupt Subprime pusher,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes a shotgun is something different than a mannlicher carcano rifle, a weapon that was 50 years old, but the action served a purpose for Thomas Dodd, a New Deal Liberal and staunch anticommunist, who they suddenly discovered he was corrupt, but not before infringing our rights to self defense in a quixotic exercise,<br />
his son was full Commie, and later corrupt Subprime pusher,</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the reason I bring the point up, is because Joannides was the Company operative, tailed to watch the DRE, who in turn were watching Oswald, the local leader in New Orleans, Carlos Bringuier became a minor footnote thanks to Oliver Stone&#039;s JFK thanks to Tony Plana, as well as another one of my paisans Tomas Milian, (previosly known for Spaghetti westerns)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the reason I bring the point up, is because Joannides was the Company operative, tailed to watch the DRE, who in turn were watching Oswald, the local leader in New Orleans, Carlos Bringuier became a minor footnote thanks to Oliver Stone&#8217;s JFK thanks to Tony Plana, as well as another one of my paisans Tomas Milian, (previosly known for Spaghetti westerns)</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The shotgun, a myth  that never misses and never dies. &quot;FFS&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shotgun, a myth  that never misses and never dies. &#8220;FFS&#8221;</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/15/open-thread-12-15-23/#comment-2713603</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[on another note,
https://howiecarrshow.com/who-was-at-wu-nonwhite-holiday-party/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on another note,<br />
<a href="https://howiecarrshow.com/who-was-at-wu-nonwhite-holiday-party/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://howiecarrshow.com/who-was-at-wu-nonwhite-holiday-party/</a></p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[how much did the bureau and the company know about oswald, who had defected to the Soviet Union, who had been to the Soviet and Cuban Mission in Mexico City, Charles Thomas, as the Times and politico reporter Phillip Shenon,
note they knew a great deal, now as with the Okhrana and Stolypins killer, Bugayev, they may not have directed him, but they certainly didn&#039;t move to preempt his actions,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how much did the bureau and the company know about oswald, who had defected to the Soviet Union, who had been to the Soviet and Cuban Mission in Mexico City, Charles Thomas, as the Times and politico reporter Phillip Shenon,<br />
note they knew a great deal, now as with the Okhrana and Stolypins killer, Bugayev, they may not have directed him, but they certainly didn&#8217;t move to preempt his actions,</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/15/open-thread-12-15-23/#comment-2713599</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Howard was sort of an American analog to Sidney Reilly, in his scheming, he was trusted by my paisans, maybe he shouldn&#039;t have been, he had lent himself to the Johnson campaign to surveil Goldwater,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard was sort of an American analog to Sidney Reilly, in his scheming, he was trusted by my paisans, maybe he shouldn&#8217;t have been, he had lent himself to the Johnson campaign to surveil Goldwater,</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Howard Hunt had been scapegoated, by the company, in a bogus libel trial, that 
mark lane had arranged, so he allegedly blamed a whole host of the Agency supergrades that had dissed him, Cord Meyer and the like,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard Hunt had been scapegoated, by the company, in a bogus libel trial, that<br />
mark lane had arranged, so he allegedly blamed a whole host of the Agency supergrades that had dissed him, Cord Meyer and the like,</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 11:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OBloody:

Read the Bugliosi book &lt;i&gt;Reclaiming History&lt;/i&gt;, which makes it clear beyond a doubt that Oswald acted alone, and deals with every one of the supposed objections to that conclusion. You don&#039;t have to read the entire book; the first 400 pages or so are enough, and they are actually a fascinating read.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBloody:</p>
<p>Read the Bugliosi book <i>Reclaiming History</i>, which makes it clear beyond a doubt that Oswald acted alone, and deals with every one of the supposed objections to that conclusion. You don&#8217;t have to read the entire book; the first 400 pages or so are enough, and they are actually a fascinating read.</p>
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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ObloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 07:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;Not to mention that all the Right People said that Lee Oswald did the deed.&lt;/i&gt; 

The main problem with the Only Oswald theory is the inexplicable magic bullet, thanks to the Zapruder film, we know there were only three shots that went into the car itself.

There ARE some other very suspicious stuff, mind you. One report of Oswald in Russia is that he supposedly went hunting with a group of co-workers, and had a shotgun. According to the co-workers, he could not hit the broad side of a barn -- &lt;i&gt;with a shotgun&lt;/i&gt;, FFS.

Yet somehow he comes back and he&#039;s a hell of a crack shot.

Lots and lots of &quot;things that make you go, &#039;Hmmmm...&#039; &quot; in this situation, unfortunately. 

Not a big supporter of CTs, mind you, this is the only one until this last 10-15y where there actually seems like something might be there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>Not to mention that all the Right People said that Lee Oswald did the deed.</i> </p>
<p>The main problem with the Only Oswald theory is the inexplicable magic bullet, thanks to the Zapruder film, we know there were only three shots that went into the car itself.</p>
<p>There ARE some other very suspicious stuff, mind you. One report of Oswald in Russia is that he supposedly went hunting with a group of co-workers, and had a shotgun. According to the co-workers, he could not hit the broad side of a barn &#8212; <i>with a shotgun</i>, FFS.</p>
<p>Yet somehow he comes back and he&#8217;s a hell of a crack shot.</p>
<p>Lots and lots of &#8220;things that make you go, &#8216;Hmmmm&#8230;&#8217; &#8221; in this situation, unfortunately. </p>
<p>Not a big supporter of CTs, mind you, this is the only one until this last 10-15y where there actually seems like something might be there.</p>
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