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		By: Bauxite		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/14/scotus-will-be-hearing-a-j6-case/#comment-2713477</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2023 17:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[python - Trump&#039;s best defense is legal. The &quot;otherwise&quot; has to tie back to the previous subsection, which is all about tampering with or destroying evidence. So &quot;otherwise . . . influences, or impedes&quot; would have to relate to another way of tampering with or destroying evidence. If &quot;corruptly . . . influenc[ing]&quot; a government proceeding is a crime, then you could put 75% of Washington in prison - &quot;corruptly&quot; is a very slippery element and most of Washington influences government proceedings in some way. 

The problem is that the judge has accepted the prosecutor&#039;s broad reading of the statute so that will be the basis of the trial. Trump&#039;s arguments about the statute will have to wait for appeal, or until the disposition of the J6 cases that the SC just took because the DOJ is using the same statute in the same way against those defendants. By then, however, he will most likely already be convicted and may be in prison.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>python &#8211; Trump&#8217;s best defense is legal. The &#8220;otherwise&#8221; has to tie back to the previous subsection, which is all about tampering with or destroying evidence. So &#8220;otherwise . . . influences, or impedes&#8221; would have to relate to another way of tampering with or destroying evidence. If &#8220;corruptly . . . influenc[ing]&#8221; a government proceeding is a crime, then you could put 75% of Washington in prison &#8211; &#8220;corruptly&#8221; is a very slippery element and most of Washington influences government proceedings in some way. </p>
<p>The problem is that the judge has accepted the prosecutor&#8217;s broad reading of the statute so that will be the basis of the trial. Trump&#8217;s arguments about the statute will have to wait for appeal, or until the disposition of the J6 cases that the SC just took because the DOJ is using the same statute in the same way against those defendants. By then, however, he will most likely already be convicted and may be in prison.</p>
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		By: python		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[python]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2023 16:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Quoting from above:  &quot;otherwise...influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.&quot;

I don&#039;t see how a DC jury with a DC judge doesn&#039;t sentence Trump to 20 years in jail under this clause in a few months.  It seems like he is dead to rights.  Even if they can&#039;t prove his speech was an attempt to impede the certification of the election, they can certainly &quot;prove&quot; to said DC jury that it was an attempt to influence it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoting from above:  &#8220;otherwise&#8230;influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how a DC jury with a DC judge doesn&#8217;t sentence Trump to 20 years in jail under this clause in a few months.  It seems like he is dead to rights.  Even if they can&#8217;t prove his speech was an attempt to impede the certification of the election, they can certainly &#8220;prove&#8221; to said DC jury that it was an attempt to influence it.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2023 11:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And if anyone is STILL wondering....
&quot;Capitol Police commander who ordered evacuations of Senate and House: &#039;J6 was not an insurrection&#039; &quot;---
https://thepostmillennial.com/capitol-police-commander-who-ordered-evacuations-of-senate-and-house-j6-was-not-an-insurrection
H/T Instapundit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if anyone is STILL wondering&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;Capitol Police commander who ordered evacuations of Senate and House: &#8216;J6 was not an insurrection&#8217; &#8220;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://thepostmillennial.com/capitol-police-commander-who-ordered-evacuations-of-senate-and-house-j6-was-not-an-insurrection" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thepostmillennial.com/capitol-police-commander-who-ordered-evacuations-of-senate-and-house-j6-was-not-an-insurrection</a><br />
H/T Instapundit.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/14/scotus-will-be-hearing-a-j6-case/#comment-2713443</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2023 11:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;It&#039;s been known to happen.&quot;

Especially considering that the &quot;astute&quot; and &quot;professional&quot; &quot;analysis&quot; was made by that Master of Moral Turpitude, the incomparable, ethically decrepit Andrew Weissmann....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s been known to happen.&#8221;</p>
<p>Especially considering that the &#8220;astute&#8221; and &#8220;professional&#8221; &#8220;analysis&#8221; was made by that Master of Moral Turpitude, the incomparable, ethically decrepit Andrew Weissmann&#8230;.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/14/scotus-will-be-hearing-a-j6-case/#comment-2713433</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2023 07:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo linked to a RCI post by Julie Kelly (&quot;More here&quot;) which is probably the most complete analysis of the legal nuts-and-bolts, mostly because she has been working this beat since the beginning.
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2023/11/01/untested_legal_imagination_is_the_mother_of_prosecution_vs_trump_and_the_january_sixers_989276.html

A salient excerpt:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Washington Post legal affairs columnist Jason Willick warned in April that the Fischer case “could make American politics even worse.” Willick criticized the DOJ for rejiggering the obstruction law at a time of heightened political tension. The country does not need, Willick wrote, “a new, open-ended grant of power to prosecutors to reach into the political system,” one that could be used in the future against “interest groups and officials who fall out of favor with the president’s Justice Department.”

This is the tangled legal and judicial system in the nation’s capital that now awaits Donald Trump: a quick-trigger jury pool deciding the merits of a dubious charge as federal judges widen the utility and interpretation of a law written to close a loophole related to corporate interference in criminal investigations.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Also: &lt;blockquote&gt;
While touting the Fischer decision as a win for Jack Smith, Andrew Weissmann, lead prosecutor in the Mueller investigation, admitted the Supreme Court could find “some part of the decision to be inapplicable.” Nonetheless, Weissmann said it would be a “stretch” for the Supreme Court “to find that all of those judges were wrong, and the D.C. circuit was wrong.”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s been known to happen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo linked to a RCI post by Julie Kelly (&#8220;More here&#8221;) which is probably the most complete analysis of the legal nuts-and-bolts, mostly because she has been working this beat since the beginning.<br />
<a href="https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2023/11/01/untested_legal_imagination_is_the_mother_of_prosecution_vs_trump_and_the_january_sixers_989276.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2023/11/01/untested_legal_imagination_is_the_mother_of_prosecution_vs_trump_and_the_january_sixers_989276.html</a></p>
<p>A salient excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p>Washington Post legal affairs columnist Jason Willick warned in April that the Fischer case “could make American politics even worse.” Willick criticized the DOJ for rejiggering the obstruction law at a time of heightened political tension. The country does not need, Willick wrote, “a new, open-ended grant of power to prosecutors to reach into the political system,” one that could be used in the future against “interest groups and officials who fall out of favor with the president’s Justice Department.”</p>
<p>This is the tangled legal and judicial system in the nation’s capital that now awaits Donald Trump: a quick-trigger jury pool deciding the merits of a dubious charge as federal judges widen the utility and interpretation of a law written to close a loophole related to corporate interference in criminal investigations.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Also: </p>
<blockquote><p>
While touting the Fischer decision as a win for Jack Smith, Andrew Weissmann, lead prosecutor in the Mueller investigation, admitted the Supreme Court could find “some part of the decision to be inapplicable.” Nonetheless, Weissmann said it would be a “stretch” for the Supreme Court “to find that all of those judges were wrong, and the D.C. circuit was wrong.”
</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s been known to happen.</p>
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		By: Bill K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2023 00:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And if I had the standing and ability, I&#039;d like to sue the DOJ on behalf of the J6 defendents on the basis of the 6th amendment, &quot;In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a &lt;b&gt;speedy and public trial&lt;/b&gt;...&quot;

Considering the volume of cases in which highly likely criminals get off on technicalities on other grounds, why shouldn&#039;t ALL the J6 defendents be excused on this ground alone?

Speedy, my ass!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if I had the standing and ability, I&#8217;d like to sue the DOJ on behalf of the J6 defendents on the basis of the 6th amendment, &#8220;In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a <b>speedy and public trial</b>&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Considering the volume of cases in which highly likely criminals get off on technicalities on other grounds, why shouldn&#8217;t ALL the J6 defendents be excused on this ground alone?</p>
<p>Speedy, my ass!</p>
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		By: Bill K		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/14/scotus-will-be-hearing-a-j6-case/#comment-2713376</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2023 00:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We are late-Rome, and Beria&#039;s quote reminds me of Tacitus&#039; quote, &quot;The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws&quot;.

And I wonder, did Tacitus mean that corrupt legislators multiplied laws because they were all a bunch of control freaks trying to create utopia?

Or because the population was becoming ever more lawless as they saw how the elites behaved?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are late-Rome, and Beria&#8217;s quote reminds me of Tacitus&#8217; quote, &#8220;The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws&#8221;.</p>
<p>And I wonder, did Tacitus mean that corrupt legislators multiplied laws because they were all a bunch of control freaks trying to create utopia?</p>
<p>Or because the population was becoming ever more lawless as they saw how the elites behaved?</p>
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		By: Paul Harmon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Harmon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2023 00:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The J6 political prisoners really need our support, and prayers.  I pity them, and wish they got as much attention as that lesbian women&#039;s basketball player did when she was imprisoned in Russia for violating their drug laws.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The J6 political prisoners really need our support, and prayers.  I pity them, and wish they got as much attention as that lesbian women&#8217;s basketball player did when she was imprisoned in Russia for violating their drug laws.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/14/scotus-will-be-hearing-a-j6-case/#comment-2713365</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 23:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lamberth failed to issue a warrant for moussaoui which could have cracked the 9-11 plot 

Beryl howell gave hillary more running room than la guardia]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lamberth failed to issue a warrant for moussaoui which could have cracked the 9-11 plot </p>
<p>Beryl howell gave hillary more running room than la guardia</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 23:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No they have no shame take dread pirate smith or judge chutkin even judge lamberth]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No they have no shame take dread pirate smith or judge chutkin even judge lamberth</p>
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