Some day I believe we’ll get to a theocracy and it will be heaven on earth. Unless you don’t like God. In which case, it will be hell, but not on earth. 🙁

Once, election laws were drawn up in a bipartisan manner. Neither side wanted easy cheating.

Decades ago Democrats figured out that Republicans won’t bother cheating.* And many races turn on less than ten votes per precinct. So they cheated, on a retail level, and no prosecutor wants to do election fraud. It doesn’t get you elected to the Senate. Unless, of course, one can find that nearly mythical Republican cheater.

Thus the Minneapolis Somali case where the guy did a video bragging how he had 300 ballots in the car with him. In 2020, who is going into the Somali hi-rises to interview Somali elders about their ballots? Even if they wanted to, there are no Somali cops or prosecutors to translate.

But with vote by mail, holy cow, wholesale cheating becomes possible, and it’s impossible to fix even if you detect it. The ballot’s already in the box.

Betcha Griffin receives a ballot for his late mother for years to come.

*Republicans won’t bother cheating because politics isn’t personal to them (Trump excepted).

Kate, good point.

I think it was 2020, I was considering “helping” my father, who had dementia, vote. I looked into it, but wasn’t able to do it, because the rules in my blue state were quite strict about how to do this. (Not that I was trying to cheat.)

He didn’t really give a hoot about his vote, anyway.

But, if you can read it you will see the problem here in MT with regard to the stupidity of the R party! They ousted their own elected official in charge of the election! Not only that they agreed with the democrats to hire someone from outside to come in and count ballots. In a state in which all government employees were hired by the previous democratic regime–how much integrity do you think that’s going to bring to the process. GEEZ LOUISE the Dems convinced the Republicans to take out their own elected official!!! 2024 is going to be one giant cartoon which the R party will loose!
P.S.You can also go to the Great Falls newspaper.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cascade-countys-vote-to-strip-elections-from-clerk-and-recorder-reflects-deeper-divide/ar-AA1lshhH

Only an idiot could not see that Biden would receive more votes than any other presidential candidate in the history of the USA. Even breaking the previous record of Obama’s vote tally.

Any “irregularities” were insignificant, meaningless.

Just recall the crowds that Biden drew on the campaign trail !
There literally was no room to accommodate the many many hundreds of thousands of his supporters that attended his many campaign appearances.

And truly, he would have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize if it hadn’t been awarded to Obama just a few short years before.
But hey, there is still hope !!

As for those election deniers, they refuse to admit that those election “observers” provided by Venezuela, Hamas, N.Korea, Putin and Cuba all declared that everything was on the up and up.

True, those election deniers point to those states that “delayed” vote counting over night, just happened to be by some miracle those states whose electoral votes would decide the election and had Trump in the lead just before they “delayed” the vote count.
And when the vote count in these states resumed, after having counted zero votes over night, ALL showed Biden in the lead, even though there was no vote counting over night.
This is meaningless, insignificant rubbish that those idiotic election deniers are hung up on.
What a desperate, foolish bunch.
But these deniers are still shedding crocodile tears.
They are just sore losers.

Now these same !!! election deniers insist that Joe biden took bribes.
Really!!
Show me the evidence.
Hunter evaded taxes, OK, fine
This has nothing at all to do with the esteemed President Biden .
Hunter received a few million $$$; so what. He provided his expertise and guidance to entities in China and Ukraine, and they paid for it.
What is the big deal?
After all, Hunter has a BA in Finance from U of Chicago and a Harvard MBA plus years of experience in business consulting. He deserves big $$$ for his advice.
True, he on occasion and very infrequently took up crack cocaine and hanging with prostitutes but he was only trying to help the latter by paying them and providing them free crack cocaine.
What a nice guy and gentleman.

As for the next election, all I can predict with 100% assurance that it will be the most honest and fair election in US history unless Trump is a candidate, in which case Putin will be hacking into the voting machines to give Trump the edge.
Just ask Hillary.

In my view, this is very much like the “polarized primary electorate” effect and actually undermines the legitimacy of democracy.

I saw a poll today where most democrats considered “we cant have Trump” as the 2nd most popular issue after the economy. They did not have the option “we cant have Biden” in the poll.

Meaningless poll, loaded, biased. Move on.

Im still looking for the 38% who say Biden is doing a whiz bang job.

They sure dont like to talk about it.