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		By: R2L		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/05/hostages-and-nightmare/#comment-2712196</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2023 02:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But ... but ... why isn&#039;t what BrooklynBoy  said on December 6, 2023 at 8:28 am equally venal and horrendous and vile as what the 3 uni presidents contextualized?
And maybe his phrasing is vile, but is what he said and what the uni P&#039;s were supporting a violation of the 1st Amendment? His context is a blog discussion group or thread, with no opportunity to cause any of us to act physically in response to his comment.  We can nod or shake our heads as we please, but I suppose he is still within the criteria of permissible free speech?

Does a declaration of war, thereby identifying some group as &quot;the enemy&quot;, help overcome those criteria and allow &quot;inciting language&quot; to be used, say by a commander just prior to a military operation, when that would be forbidden in most civilian situations? 

I understand the courts to say context does matter (and there are some limits), so in that sense the Uni P&#039;s may be correct, and the Rep&#039;s are playing to emotion (probably honestly felt rather than just for the folks back home) but they are not recognizing the right to say bad things that in turn need to be countered by saying alternative good things.  Accepting that can be tough (i.e., the Skokie-Nazi march, etc.).

Isn&#039;t that part of what makes our system &quot;exceptional&quot;  and us &quot;semi-exceptional&quot; when we manage to adhere to that system?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But &#8230; but &#8230; why isn&#8217;t what BrooklynBoy  said on December 6, 2023 at 8:28 am equally venal and horrendous and vile as what the 3 uni presidents contextualized?<br />
And maybe his phrasing is vile, but is what he said and what the uni P&#8217;s were supporting a violation of the 1st Amendment? His context is a blog discussion group or thread, with no opportunity to cause any of us to act physically in response to his comment.  We can nod or shake our heads as we please, but I suppose he is still within the criteria of permissible free speech?</p>
<p>Does a declaration of war, thereby identifying some group as &#8220;the enemy&#8221;, help overcome those criteria and allow &#8220;inciting language&#8221; to be used, say by a commander just prior to a military operation, when that would be forbidden in most civilian situations? </p>
<p>I understand the courts to say context does matter (and there are some limits), so in that sense the Uni P&#8217;s may be correct, and the Rep&#8217;s are playing to emotion (probably honestly felt rather than just for the folks back home) but they are not recognizing the right to say bad things that in turn need to be countered by saying alternative good things.  Accepting that can be tough (i.e., the Skokie-Nazi march, etc.).</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that part of what makes our system &#8220;exceptional&#8221;  and us &#8220;semi-exceptional&#8221; when we manage to adhere to that system?</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/05/hostages-and-nightmare/#comment-2712019</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 14:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What do want. I&#039;ve learned to aeoreciat youp pp]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do want. I&#8217;ve learned to aeoreciat youp pp</p>
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		By: BrooklynBoy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/05/hostages-and-nightmare/#comment-2712012</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrooklynBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 13:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A good start would be killing every single Hamas member you can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good start would be killing every single Hamas member you can.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/05/hostages-and-nightmare/#comment-2712008</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 12:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meanwhile, VP Harris has emerged (from wherever she&#039;s been holed up) to preach to the converted:
In what would seem to be a terrible waste of her singular talents and strengths, she has been dispatched by &quot;Biden&quot; to Dubai...
&quot;Kamala Harris’s Performative Scolding of Israel&quot;---
https://archive.is/ywJTe
H/T Blazingcatfur blog.
https://blazingcatfur.ca/2023/12/06/kamala-harriss-performative-scolding-of-israel/

(Surely, with her expertise and moral---not to mention communicative---clout, she should have been sent to the Israel-Gaza border instead....)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, VP Harris has emerged (from wherever she&#8217;s been holed up) to preach to the converted:<br />
In what would seem to be a terrible waste of her singular talents and strengths, she has been dispatched by &#8220;Biden&#8221; to Dubai&#8230;<br />
&#8220;Kamala Harris’s Performative Scolding of Israel&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://archive.is/ywJTe" rel="nofollow ugc">https://archive.is/ywJTe</a><br />
H/T Blazingcatfur blog.<br />
<a href="https://blazingcatfur.ca/2023/12/06/kamala-harriss-performative-scolding-of-israel/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://blazingcatfur.ca/2023/12/06/kamala-harriss-performative-scolding-of-israel/</a></p>
<p>(Surely, with her expertise and moral&#8212;not to mention communicative&#8212;clout, she should have been sent to the Israel-Gaza border instead&#8230;.)</p>
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		By: Someone Else		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/05/hostages-and-nightmare/#comment-2712003</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Someone Else]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 11:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I fear that the UN will further deny the horrors of October 7 because very few rape kits and other forensic protocols were done on the victims in situ. I can just hear the b******s at the UN: &quot;You have no evidence of a crime!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fear that the UN will further deny the horrors of October 7 because very few rape kits and other forensic protocols were done on the victims in situ. I can just hear the b******s at the UN: &#8220;You have no evidence of a crime!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/05/hostages-and-nightmare/#comment-2711995</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 07:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Continued...
Key phrase from the first link:
&quot;...This could be the most extraordinary testimony ever elicited in the Congress, certainly on the topic of genocide...&quot;

Think about it: Parents can send their kids to learn in-depth about how to unequivocally support the brutal mass murder of people of ALL ages (including entire families), indiscriminate rape (including necrophilia), incinerating victims in their homes and cars, mutilation of bodies, taking hostages of kidnapped victims of all ages, physical and psychological torture---and much, much more!---all for only $50,000 a year (give or take---there are certainly scholarships for the disadvantaged and others who qualify!---Why, after all, should they be left out?)

(On second thought, though, it would certainly make more financial sense to send their loved ones to city or state universities where they could learn basically the same syllabus for a lot less money...if, admittedly, without the prestige...so maybe it DOES make sense to pay those higher fees after all...) 

Whatever.... American parents should know that they have a range of options that suit their budget.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continued&#8230;<br />
Key phrase from the first link:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;This could be the most extraordinary testimony ever elicited in the Congress, certainly on the topic of genocide&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Think about it: Parents can send their kids to learn in-depth about how to unequivocally support the brutal mass murder of people of ALL ages (including entire families), indiscriminate rape (including necrophilia), incinerating victims in their homes and cars, mutilation of bodies, taking hostages of kidnapped victims of all ages, physical and psychological torture&#8212;and much, much more!&#8212;all for only $50,000 a year (give or take&#8212;there are certainly scholarships for the disadvantaged and others who qualify!&#8212;Why, after all, should they be left out?)</p>
<p>(On second thought, though, it would certainly make more financial sense to send their loved ones to city or state universities where they could learn basically the same syllabus for a lot less money&#8230;if, admittedly, without the prestige&#8230;so maybe it DOES make sense to pay those higher fees after all&#8230;) </p>
<p>Whatever&#8230;. American parents should know that they have a range of options that suit their budget.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/05/hostages-and-nightmare/#comment-2711990</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 06:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, as we all know...&quot;GENOCIDE DEPENDS ON THE CONTEXT&quot;....
https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1732179418787783089
H/T Instapundit.
https://instapundit.com/620540/

+ Bonus:
&quot;I&#039;m sorry, we our out of time...&quot; (IOW, &quot;You, sir, are ROYALLY screwing up OUR Narrative so WE HAVE TO END THIS INTERVIEW RIGHT NOW...&quot;)
https://instapundit.com/620540/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as we all know&#8230;&#8221;GENOCIDE DEPENDS ON THE CONTEXT&#8221;&#8230;.<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1732179418787783089" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1732179418787783089</a><br />
H/T Instapundit.<br />
<a href="https://instapundit.com/620540/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://instapundit.com/620540/</a></p>
<p>+ Bonus:<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, we our out of time&#8230;&#8221; (IOW, &#8220;You, sir, are ROYALLY screwing up OUR Narrative so WE HAVE TO END THIS INTERVIEW RIGHT NOW&#8230;&#8221;)<br />
<a href="https://instapundit.com/620540/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://instapundit.com/620540/</a></p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/05/hostages-and-nightmare/#comment-2711975</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 01:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo what I&#039;m hinting at is my sword is a life giving sword. A life giving rifle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo what I&#8217;m hinting at is my sword is a life giving sword. A life giving rifle.</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/05/hostages-and-nightmare/#comment-2711973</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 01:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You should know is I&#039;ve looked death in the face. And I learned death taught me about life. Just how precious it is. I&#039;m a killer. I&#039;ve never taken a human life. I thank God every day for that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should know is I&#8217;ve looked death in the face. And I learned death taught me about life. Just how precious it is. I&#8217;m a killer. I&#8217;ve never taken a human life. I thank God every day for that.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/05/hostages-and-nightmare/#comment-2711954</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2023 23:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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