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		By: sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/02/why-did-the-hostage-deals-end/#comment-2711863</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2023 16:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;After claiming Israel has no right to defend itself against Hamas, Francesca Albanese criticizes Dennis Ross for saying Hamas should release its hostages.&quot;

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/381464

&lt;blockquote&gt;United Nations Special Rapporteur on Palestinian Territories Francesca Albanese, who previously claimed that Israel does not have the right to protect itself from the Hamas terrorist organization, stated that calls for Hamas to release the hostages it kidnapped on October 7 are &quot;unacceptable.&quot;

Albanese responded to a tweet by former State Department official Dennis Ross, who wrote: &quot;The suffering of Palestinians in Gaza is real. Why not call on Hamas to release all hostages and agree to have its leaders leave Gaza. They could save Palestinians from paying a further price. Real support for Palestinians should produce such a call. Isn’t it time for that?&quot;

The Special Rapporteur wrote in response: &quot;Regrettably, this sounds like: - putting the onus to end the carnage in Gaza on the Palestinians, including those being slaughtered in Gaza; - justifying and deflecting the attention from the atrocities committed by the Israeli army in Gaza. Unacceptable.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;After claiming Israel has no right to defend itself against Hamas, Francesca Albanese criticizes Dennis Ross for saying Hamas should release its hostages.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/381464" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/381464</a></p>
<blockquote><p>United Nations Special Rapporteur on Palestinian Territories Francesca Albanese, who previously claimed that Israel does not have the right to protect itself from the Hamas terrorist organization, stated that calls for Hamas to release the hostages it kidnapped on October 7 are &#8220;unacceptable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Albanese responded to a tweet by former State Department official Dennis Ross, who wrote: &#8220;The suffering of Palestinians in Gaza is real. Why not call on Hamas to release all hostages and agree to have its leaders leave Gaza. They could save Palestinians from paying a further price. Real support for Palestinians should produce such a call. Isn’t it time for that?&#8221;</p>
<p>The Special Rapporteur wrote in response: &#8220;Regrettably, this sounds like: &#8211; putting the onus to end the carnage in Gaza on the Palestinians, including those being slaughtered in Gaza; &#8211; justifying and deflecting the attention from the atrocities committed by the Israeli army in Gaza. Unacceptable.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		By: Jamie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/02/why-did-the-hostage-deals-end/#comment-2711857</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2023 15:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The question no one is asking yet: Is Netanyahu prepared to tell the hostage families they are expendable in pursuit of Hamas dalenda est.&lt;/i&gt;

They are &lt;i&gt;hostages&lt;/i&gt;, ripped from what they thought was safety during a blitzkrieg massacre and brought to Gaza to be used physically and emotionally as tools of jihadists. &lt;i&gt;Everything&lt;/i&gt; that has happened to them and will happen to them is the fault of the jihadists. 

No one else.

Netanyahu may - probably will - pay a political price related to the deaths of any of them, but more because of the deaths of those killed on Oct. 7 that he &quot;should have&quot; prevented (in quotes because maybe it would have been possible, if just the right voices had been heeded beforehand, but boy am I glad it wasn&#039;t my job to figure out which voices were the right ones). But if more hostages are killed, it will still be 100% because &lt;i&gt;jihadists took them as hostages&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The question no one is asking yet: Is Netanyahu prepared to tell the hostage families they are expendable in pursuit of Hamas dalenda est.</i></p>
<p>They are <i>hostages</i>, ripped from what they thought was safety during a blitzkrieg massacre and brought to Gaza to be used physically and emotionally as tools of jihadists. <i>Everything</i> that has happened to them and will happen to them is the fault of the jihadists. </p>
<p>No one else.</p>
<p>Netanyahu may &#8211; probably will &#8211; pay a political price related to the deaths of any of them, but more because of the deaths of those killed on Oct. 7 that he &#8220;should have&#8221; prevented (in quotes because maybe it would have been possible, if just the right voices had been heeded beforehand, but boy am I glad it wasn&#8217;t my job to figure out which voices were the right ones). But if more hostages are killed, it will still be 100% because <i>jihadists took them as hostages</i>.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/02/why-did-the-hostage-deals-end/#comment-2711660</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2023 12:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dunno Steve, you always seemed like a true positive to me....

But speaking of false....
...here&#039;s the story of the coup behind the coup behind the Coup...
(or alternately, the coverup of the coverup of the coverup...well, just one of many coverups, mind you...).
&quot;A WHITE COAT SUPREMACY READER&quot;---
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/12/a-white-coat-supremacy-reader.php

Think of it as a How-To book (DIY?) on how to defenestrate an entire nation (or much of the globe for that matter....)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunno Steve, you always seemed like a true positive to me&#8230;.</p>
<p>But speaking of false&#8230;.<br />
&#8230;here&#8217;s the story of the coup behind the coup behind the Coup&#8230;<br />
(or alternately, the coverup of the coverup of the coverup&#8230;well, just one of many coverups, mind you&#8230;).<br />
&#8220;A WHITE COAT SUPREMACY READER&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/12/a-white-coat-supremacy-reader.php" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/12/a-white-coat-supremacy-reader.php</a></p>
<p>Think of it as a How-To book (DIY?) on how to defenestrate an entire nation (or much of the globe for that matter&#8230;.)</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/02/why-did-the-hostage-deals-end/#comment-2711658</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2023 12:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;We were never fighting to win.&quot;

That might be true.
But it might be more accurate  to say that &quot;winning&quot; was never well defined---if it was defined at all....

But even if &quot;that might [have been] true&quot;, it was no longer true from 2009 onward (except for a brief, hopeful respite from 2017-2020; but even then, the Deep State did its best to keep the lights dampened).

From that point on, it was &quot;Transformation or Bust&quot;.
(What those Best &#039;n Brightest Bast**ds DID NOT tell you is:
&quot;Transformation&quot; = &quot;Bust&quot;...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We were never fighting to win.&#8221;</p>
<p>That might be true.<br />
But it might be more accurate  to say that &#8220;winning&#8221; was never well defined&#8212;if it was defined at all&#8230;.</p>
<p>But even if &#8220;that might [have been] true&#8221;, it was no longer true from 2009 onward (except for a brief, hopeful respite from 2017-2020; but even then, the Deep State did its best to keep the lights dampened).</p>
<p>From that point on, it was &#8220;Transformation or Bust&#8221;.<br />
(What those Best &#8216;n Brightest Bast**ds DID NOT tell you is:<br />
&#8220;Transformation&#8221; = &#8220;Bust&#8221;&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/02/why-did-the-hostage-deals-end/#comment-2711656</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2023 11:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t want to come across as a false positive]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to come across as a false positive</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/02/why-did-the-hostage-deals-end/#comment-2711655</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2023 11:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Poor representative that I am. I suck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor representative that I am. I suck.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/02/why-did-the-hostage-deals-end/#comment-2711649</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2023 10:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, so what are the chances that the numbers that Hamas (Inc.) has been spreading around are totally bogus?
(Their reputation for honesty, accountability and accuracy---when it comes to reporting casualties---isn&#039;t exactly, um, stellar...)

And BTW, how many of those thousands of casualties are fighters?
IOW, what&#039;s the breakdown?
Do they bother to tell us? (And if they did bother, would they be believable?)
Does anyone know?
Does anyone care?
Is it important?
Or are just the bogus numbers important?
Etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so what are the chances that the numbers that Hamas (Inc.) has been spreading around are totally bogus?<br />
(Their reputation for honesty, accountability and accuracy&#8212;when it comes to reporting casualties&#8212;isn&#8217;t exactly, um, stellar&#8230;)</p>
<p>And BTW, how many of those thousands of casualties are fighters?<br />
IOW, what&#8217;s the breakdown?<br />
Do they bother to tell us? (And if they did bother, would they be believable?)<br />
Does anyone know?<br />
Does anyone care?<br />
Is it important?<br />
Or are just the bogus numbers important?<br />
Etc.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/02/why-did-the-hostage-deals-end/#comment-2711647</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2023 10:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Miguel&#039;s link to Oilfield Rando&#039;s tweet: &quot;Blood and treasure sacrificed for two decades in the Global War on Terror and this is how American cities ended up&quot;

We were never fighting to win.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Miguel&#8217;s link to Oilfield Rando&#8217;s tweet: &#8220;Blood and treasure sacrificed for two decades in the Global War on Terror and this is how American cities ended up&#8221;</p>
<p>We were never fighting to win.</p>
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		By: F		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/02/why-did-the-hostage-deals-end/#comment-2711608</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[F]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2023 23:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bauxite:

I agree entirely: the amount of Hamas sympathy in the US is stunning and depressing.  Some of it is perhaps paid for, but a lot of it is someone&#039;s genuine feelings.  Ugh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bauxite:</p>
<p>I agree entirely: the amount of Hamas sympathy in the US is stunning and depressing.  Some of it is perhaps paid for, but a lot of it is someone&#8217;s genuine feelings.  Ugh.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/12/02/why-did-the-hostage-deals-end/#comment-2711604</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2023 22:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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