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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not to be cute, but...coincidentally, &quot;coincidence&quot; requires &quot;coincide&quot;.  And when two or more items which are even somewhat unlikely--unlikelihoods--must coincide for something interesting to happen, we have a problem.  Multiplying the non-probabilities is like multiplying fractions.  You very shortly get to a small or even tiny value.
Then the generic Law of Probability is in play:  The likely thing to happen is the likely thing to happen.  If something happens, it&#039;s likely it&#039;s the likely thing to happen.  So this really weird thing is extremely unlikely, considering all the unlikely things which must coincide.  Maybe it&#039;s really likely, if we only knew more about it.  Then it would be likely and we wouldn&#039;t be freaked about it.
I suggest that reducing the unlikely to the likely by finding reasons the first is actually the second is not only normal but how we make sense of the natural world.

But sometimes if goes astray.

in this case, the presumed stuck accelerator stuck just on the bridge--TO ANOTHER COUNTRY--of all the stop lights and stop signs in its history to this point.  Just....HERE.   Could happen but putting the mortgage on it would be unwise...considering all the stop signs and stop lights up to this point.  THIS point?

I am not necessarily buying it, but I wouldn&#039;t give someone with a raised eyebrow a hard time about it.

That said, I once had a rental car which, due to the placement of the brake pedal and the accelerator, plus the size 14, had a tendency to a mysterious surge at red lights.  Unlikely a luxury car was arranged that way  but if it was, in some fashion, susceptible to an unlikely foot position--guy&#039;s yelling at his wife and turning to look at her, reaching into the back seat for something, noting they&#039;d been called to a secondary inspection might have made somebody nervous for some reason and once the car jumped, panic led to mashing whatever was under his foot.

Strictly speaking, an unconfined vapor flash is not an explosion with a sharp, brutal wave front/over pressure.  It&#039;s not going to throw loose objects very far nor blow apart structures of any kind.

Initial reports were that there were explosives &quot;in the car&quot;.  Most professional grade, military grade explosives are, oddly, hard to detonate.  You need a blasting cap. So, in Viet Nam, the line guys might pry a few flakes of explosive out of the Claymore mine to heat their rations.  Burned nicely.  If there really were explosives and they were securely enclosed, a flashover might not set them off.

You&#039;d expect a terrorist to be better armed and/or better organized. Just driving up to something and running into it doesn&#039;t put you in the big leagues.  So...maybe not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be cute, but&#8230;coincidentally, &#8220;coincidence&#8221; requires &#8220;coincide&#8221;.  And when two or more items which are even somewhat unlikely&#8211;unlikelihoods&#8211;must coincide for something interesting to happen, we have a problem.  Multiplying the non-probabilities is like multiplying fractions.  You very shortly get to a small or even tiny value.<br />
Then the generic Law of Probability is in play:  The likely thing to happen is the likely thing to happen.  If something happens, it&#8217;s likely it&#8217;s the likely thing to happen.  So this really weird thing is extremely unlikely, considering all the unlikely things which must coincide.  Maybe it&#8217;s really likely, if we only knew more about it.  Then it would be likely and we wouldn&#8217;t be freaked about it.<br />
I suggest that reducing the unlikely to the likely by finding reasons the first is actually the second is not only normal but how we make sense of the natural world.</p>
<p>But sometimes if goes astray.</p>
<p>in this case, the presumed stuck accelerator stuck just on the bridge&#8211;TO ANOTHER COUNTRY&#8211;of all the stop lights and stop signs in its history to this point.  Just&#8230;.HERE.   Could happen but putting the mortgage on it would be unwise&#8230;considering all the stop signs and stop lights up to this point.  THIS point?</p>
<p>I am not necessarily buying it, but I wouldn&#8217;t give someone with a raised eyebrow a hard time about it.</p>
<p>That said, I once had a rental car which, due to the placement of the brake pedal and the accelerator, plus the size 14, had a tendency to a mysterious surge at red lights.  Unlikely a luxury car was arranged that way  but if it was, in some fashion, susceptible to an unlikely foot position&#8211;guy&#8217;s yelling at his wife and turning to look at her, reaching into the back seat for something, noting they&#8217;d been called to a secondary inspection might have made somebody nervous for some reason and once the car jumped, panic led to mashing whatever was under his foot.</p>
<p>Strictly speaking, an unconfined vapor flash is not an explosion with a sharp, brutal wave front/over pressure.  It&#8217;s not going to throw loose objects very far nor blow apart structures of any kind.</p>
<p>Initial reports were that there were explosives &#8220;in the car&#8221;.  Most professional grade, military grade explosives are, oddly, hard to detonate.  You need a blasting cap. So, in Viet Nam, the line guys might pry a few flakes of explosive out of the Claymore mine to heat their rations.  Burned nicely.  If there really were explosives and they were securely enclosed, a flashover might not set them off.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d expect a terrorist to be better armed and/or better organized. Just driving up to something and running into it doesn&#8217;t put you in the big leagues.  So&#8230;maybe not.</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;Looks like they paid a handsome sum for a luxury vehicle which malfunctioned and killed them. RIP.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, that&#039;s certainly better than paying a trivial sum for a mobile wreck and having it malfunction and kill them all... :-D

Seriously -- oddball issues have occurred many times for many vehicles -- most of them exceptionally unusual. Anyone else remember the issue with sudden acceleration by Toyotas, about 15-odd years ago, ca. 2005-2010? It tarnished the Toyota reputation for safety and reliability considerably, even though only a small fraction of a percentage point of cars ever had an issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>Looks like they paid a handsome sum for a luxury vehicle which malfunctioned and killed them. RIP.</i></p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s certainly better than paying a trivial sum for a mobile wreck and having it malfunction and kill them all&#8230; 😀</p>
<p>Seriously &#8212; oddball issues have occurred many times for many vehicles &#8212; most of them exceptionally unusual. Anyone else remember the issue with sudden acceleration by Toyotas, about 15-odd years ago, ca. 2005-2010? It tarnished the Toyota reputation for safety and reliability considerably, even though only a small fraction of a percentage point of cars ever had an issue.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2023 12:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looks like they paid a handsome sum for a luxury vehicle which malfunctioned and killed them. RIP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like they paid a handsome sum for a luxury vehicle which malfunctioned and killed them. RIP.</p>
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		By: Marlene		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marlene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2023 05:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aggie, WOW!  A sticking gas pedal is terrifying, &#038; may make some sense. 
(Though the explosion is still confusing.) 
If the gas pedal theory is true, I sure feel sorry for the couple.  What an awful  way to watch your death coming! 
I still, however, believe if there were explosives and/or this was terrorist-related, we may never know. Because part of the Biden team&#039;s sacred mission statement is &quot;There will be no terrorist act in America before Biden is re-elected.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aggie, WOW!  A sticking gas pedal is terrifying, &amp; may make some sense.<br />
(Though the explosion is still confusing.)<br />
If the gas pedal theory is true, I sure feel sorry for the couple.  What an awful  way to watch your death coming!<br />
I still, however, believe if there were explosives and/or this was terrorist-related, we may never know. Because part of the Biden team&#8217;s sacred mission statement is &#8220;There will be no terrorist act in America before Biden is re-elected.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Aggie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2023 01:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Buy American !

From 2021:  Bentley models recalled for sticking accelerator.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/2018-2021-bentley-continental-gt-and-flying-spur-recalled/

...&lt;i&gt;&quot;“Due to inconsistent fitment of the fuse box and the electrical harness the A-post lower trim can protrude into the cabin reducing clearance to the accelerator pedal. If the accelerator pedal is fully pressed whilst driving and is unable to return to its resting position, the vehicle will continue to accelerate, even when the driver&#039;s foot is removed from the accelerator pedal.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Also: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12781829/niagara-bridge-usa-canada-terrorism-explosion-gambling.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buy American !</p>
<p>From 2021:  Bentley models recalled for sticking accelerator.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.drive.com.au/news/2018-2021-bentley-continental-gt-and-flying-spur-recalled/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.drive.com.au/news/2018-2021-bentley-continental-gt-and-flying-spur-recalled/</a></p>
<p>&#8230;<i>&#8220;“Due to inconsistent fitment of the fuse box and the electrical harness the A-post lower trim can protrude into the cabin reducing clearance to the accelerator pedal. If the accelerator pedal is fully pressed whilst driving and is unable to return to its resting position, the vehicle will continue to accelerate, even when the driver&#8217;s foot is removed from the accelerator pedal.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Also: <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12781829/niagara-bridge-usa-canada-terrorism-explosion-gambling.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12781829/niagara-bridge-usa-canada-terrorism-explosion-gambling.html</a></p>
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		By: Jerry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2023 21:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Narrative has been chosen and delivered: Not. Terrorists.
Anything else is now to be labeled Conspiracy Theory.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Narrative has been chosen and delivered: Not. Terrorists.<br />
Anything else is now to be labeled Conspiracy Theory.</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FOAF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2023 20:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;gasoline tanks do not explode&quot;

What about Li batteries?  I&#039;m not sure that they &quot;explode&quot; but I believe they have caused some dramatic fires, not just a burning engine but the entire vehicle engulfed in flames.  If they are not still trying to cover up some terrorist incident it almost certainly was an EV.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;gasoline tanks do not explode&#8221;</p>
<p>What about Li batteries?  I&#8217;m not sure that they &#8220;explode&#8221; but I believe they have caused some dramatic fires, not just a burning engine but the entire vehicle engulfed in flames.  If they are not still trying to cover up some terrorist incident it almost certainly was an EV.</p>
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		By: Mr Bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not to be too pedantic, but: gasoline tanks do not explode.  They can rupture and catch fire, but not explode. In fact, NBC news had to rig an incendiary device to make it look as if a truck even burst into flame after an accident, for their Dateline NBC show. This is a myth propagated by a lot of movies, to make wrecks and gunshots look more dramatic.  If there was an actual explosion, something else was involved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be too pedantic, but: gasoline tanks do not explode.  They can rupture and catch fire, but not explode. In fact, NBC news had to rig an incendiary device to make it look as if a truck even burst into flame after an accident, for their Dateline NBC show. This is a myth propagated by a lot of movies, to make wrecks and gunshots look more dramatic.  If there was an actual explosion, something else was involved.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2023 07:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Golly, can&#039;t believe anything ya&#039; read these days.... (Now who&#039;da thunk THAT?)

One thing is certain: That&#039;s it, NO Bentleys for me...
(Though I suppose one COULD argue that if you miss your LAST CHANCE to see KISS because THEY canceled the concert---how much were those tix again?---then it&#039;s reasonable to conclude that your life is TRULY over...and your spouse&#039;s, too...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golly, can&#8217;t believe anything ya&#8217; read these days&#8230;. (Now who&#8217;da thunk THAT?)</p>
<p>One thing is certain: That&#8217;s it, NO Bentleys for me&#8230;<br />
(Though I suppose one COULD argue that if you miss your LAST CHANCE to see KISS because THEY canceled the concert&#8212;how much were those tix again?&#8212;then it&#8217;s reasonable to conclude that your life is TRULY over&#8230;and your spouse&#8217;s, too&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Jordan Rivers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan Rivers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2023 06:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It appears that the car was going from the USA to Canada. Most reports say it was heading towards the *Canadian* border.

Also reports say the car stopped at the Seneca Niagara Casino in the USA shortly before the crash.

Yes, the Daily Mail story had conflicting info--surprise! /sarc
The media can&#039;t clearly report a basic element of the story. Sad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that the car was going from the USA to Canada. Most reports say it was heading towards the *Canadian* border.</p>
<p>Also reports say the car stopped at the Seneca Niagara Casino in the USA shortly before the crash.</p>
<p>Yes, the Daily Mail story had conflicting info&#8211;surprise! /sarc<br />
The media can&#8217;t clearly report a basic element of the story. Sad.</p>
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