Comments on: Why does Fetterman support Israel so strongly?

By: Barry Meislin

Barry Meislin — Sat, 18 Nov 2023 18:54:24 +0000

See: Philadelphia.
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“…by only 80,000 votes…”
(AKA, essentially, he “lost” by the amount he needed to “lose” by.)

By: Coregis

Coregis — Sat, 18 Nov 2023 02:36:59 +0000

Fetterman went to school just east of York City, PA. There’s a strong Jewish population there due to the synagogue. I’m guessing that he made lots of Jewish friends when he was younger, and that friendship stuck with him. Good for him.

By: Chases Eagles

Chases Eagles — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 18:04:42 +0000

I as a voter incur no burden whatsoever to “prove” election fraud. The burden is entirely on the people running elections to prove that elections are to be trusted. They will not do so. Defiantly so. Ergo, the elections are crooked.

By: miguel cervantes

miguel cervantes — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 15:45:14 +0000

we haven’t been allowed to see the evidence, they have just affirmed it, deplatformed or metered any video digital or other challenge, the helderman reports, touted on pbs the month before the election, came out after the murdochs took a dive,

By: junior

junior — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 15:39:57 +0000

Apart of me wonders if Fetterman’s stroke, and subsequent mental difficulties, helped to cement his support for Israel in this instance. As in, it takes a certain amount of double-talk and mental gymnastics to claim that Hamas is in the right under these circumstances. A part of me wonders if Fetterman is capable of that.

By: Bauxite

Bauxite — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 15:34:49 +0000

Miguel cervantes – I’m sorry. That’s not evidence. You’re absolutely right about unverifiable mail-in ballots. That’s a problem and it needs to change. But you also need to accept that Trump lost Pennsylvania in 2020 by a margin that was well within the the expected range, in terms of percentage and raw votes. The available evidence that we have is completely consistent with a high turnout election in PA. (And frankly, as I noted, Trump actually did better in 2020 than the generic Republican in PA over the past decade or so.)

It’s amazing to me how many ways Democrats’ voting “reform” serves their interests. It definately helps Democrats with GOTV. But it also provides a rationalization for Trump supporters to avoid admitting the electoral weakness of the coalition that they want.

Just take PA. The best performance by a PA Republican in a national election since Arlen Specter and George HW Bush was Pat Toomey in 2016. Toomey’s coalition was a combination of the “GOPe” coalition from the Philly and Pittsburgh suburbs with Trump’s coalition. The way to win is to add the Trumpers to the existing GOP coalition, not to purge the so-called RINOs.

All of the mail-in voting shenanigans allow Trumpers to believe that they would be some kind of electoral juggernaut but for those dastardly Democrats. You’ll get no argument from me about dastardly Democrats, but Trump and his movement are no electoral juggernaut. They are a welcome and necessary component of a winning GOP coalition, but on their own they are electoral toast. And that’s with or without mail-in ballots.

By: Gringo

Gringo — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 15:26:47 +0000

Bauxite

I see nothing in these numbers that is inconsistent with Trump losing PA by about 80k votes in 2020. Sorry. If you are theorizing fraud, show me the evidence.

I suggest you peruse Dinesh D’Souza’s 2000 Mules, which is in movie or book form.

By: Miguel cervantes

Miguel cervantes — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:46:44 +0000

System changed unverifiable ballot flood hence golem

By: Bauxite

Bauxite — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:12:54 +0000

(I forgot Tom Corbett in 2010, who won by about 250k votes, but I don’t think that changes the analysis. Tom Corbett was not “Trumpy” in any way, shape, or form and that was back when the PA Governor’s mansion regularly alternated between parties.)

By: Bauxite

Bauxite — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:06:30 +0000

For reference, the last three Republicans to win statewide in PA were Pat Toomey in 2010, Donald Trump in 2016, and Pat Toomey in 2016.

Toomey in 2010 – Won by about 80k votes
Trump in 2016 – Won by about 50k votes
Toomey in 2016 (on the same ticket as Trump) – Won by about 110k votes

I see nothing in these numbers that is inconsistent with Trump losing PA by about 80k votes in 2020. Sorry. If you are theorizing fraud, show me the evidence.