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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/11/13/brendan-oneill-on-hamas-and-our-university-leftists/#comment-2708697</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2023 09:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Tom Grey - a nice idea, but we will simply get professors who are as Republican as all the token &quot;conservatives&quot; writing for the MSM and brought in as experts on MSNBC etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tom Grey &#8211; a nice idea, but we will simply get professors who are as Republican as all the token &#8220;conservatives&#8221; writing for the MSM and brought in as experts on MSNBC etc.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/11/13/brendan-oneill-on-hamas-and-our-university-leftists/#comment-2708633</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 23:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Colleges have been illegally discriminating against hiring Republican professors for years, for decades.  Well known illegal behavior - extremely difficult to prove in any criminal trial for any case.

Requiring at least 30% Republican professors in order for any edu org to gain tax exempt status would change that dynamic (and also at least 30% Dem).  The burden of proof changes, a la Oppenheimer, so the college has to prove it doesn&#039;t discriminate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colleges have been illegally discriminating against hiring Republican professors for years, for decades.  Well known illegal behavior &#8211; extremely difficult to prove in any criminal trial for any case.</p>
<p>Requiring at least 30% Republican professors in order for any edu org to gain tax exempt status would change that dynamic (and also at least 30% Dem).  The burden of proof changes, a la Oppenheimer, so the college has to prove it doesn&#8217;t discriminate.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 22:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley:

I was addressing your comment:



&lt;blockquote&gt;The Soviets played the race card hard against the US.

Did that mean the Civil Rights Movement was wrong?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Also this comment of yours:



&lt;blockquote&gt;So if the Soviets made a big deal about Jim Crow in the US, the entire Civil Rights Movement were just Soviet dupes, useful idiots — to be despised and dismissed.

That’s my point.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My point is that the Soviet opinion and intentions mattered when evaluating the meaning and worth of the nuclear freeze issue as well as the possible outcome of doing what the Soviets were advocating in that regard, whereas in the other case - civil rights; Jim Crow - their opinion did not matter when evaluating the meaning and worth of the issue (we can also assume they couldn&#039;t have cared less about the actual issue of civil rights or the condition of black people in the US; the Soviet position on this was just a way to criticize the US and gain supporters in the civil rights movement). They were not a party to the latter issue; they were the other party to the first issue.  

See also &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2015/04/06/obama-and-disarmament-one-of-his-longest-held-dreams/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, as a note of historical interest regarding Obama.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley:</p>
<p>I was addressing your comment:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Soviets played the race card hard against the US.</p>
<p>Did that mean the Civil Rights Movement was wrong?</p></blockquote>
<p>Also this comment of yours:</p>
<blockquote><p>So if the Soviets made a big deal about Jim Crow in the US, the entire Civil Rights Movement were just Soviet dupes, useful idiots — to be despised and dismissed.</p>
<p>That’s my point.</p></blockquote>
<p>My point is that the Soviet opinion and intentions mattered when evaluating the meaning and worth of the nuclear freeze issue as well as the possible outcome of doing what the Soviets were advocating in that regard, whereas in the other case &#8211; civil rights; Jim Crow &#8211; their opinion did not matter when evaluating the meaning and worth of the issue (we can also assume they couldn&#8217;t have cared less about the actual issue of civil rights or the condition of black people in the US; the Soviet position on this was just a way to criticize the US and gain supporters in the civil rights movement). They were not a party to the latter issue; they were the other party to the first issue.  </p>
<p>See also <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2015/04/06/obama-and-disarmament-one-of-his-longest-held-dreams/">this</a>, as a note of historical interest regarding Obama.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 14:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[China which helped spring board the Pakistani nuclear program, with the Lahuta reactor, well they are just doing stand up now,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China which helped spring board the Pakistani nuclear program, with the Lahuta reactor, well they are just doing stand up now,</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/11/13/brendan-oneill-on-hamas-and-our-university-leftists/#comment-2708561</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 14:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[so the confrontation, ideological military economic is roughly parallel, to the Israeli/Arab dispute, Reagan saw through their moral equivalence, perhaps noting what Whittaker Chambers noted about Stalin being the greatest czar,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so the confrontation, ideological military economic is roughly parallel, to the Israeli/Arab dispute, Reagan saw through their moral equivalence, perhaps noting what Whittaker Chambers noted about Stalin being the greatest czar,</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 14:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related...
(Powerline blog on a roll...)

&quot;Framing Israel;
&quot;How the media are reporting the war against the Jews and the west&quot;---
https://melaniephillips.substack.com/p/framing-israel
Containing all kinds of Gaza hospital background....
(In fact, it&#039;s an old Hamas tradition to convert Gaza hospitals into &quot;All-Purpose Spaces&quot;...)

&quot;Biden Mulls Approval of Fresh $10 Billion for Iran;
&quot;Sanctions waiver frees up money for Tehran as it funds Hamas’s war on Israel&quot;---
https://freebeacon.com/national-security/biden-mulls-approval-of-fresh-10-billion-payment-to-iran/
(...In case anyone WAS wondering what the Muller-in-Chief decided to do with that 6 Billion that &quot;he&quot; so judiciously canceled a month or so ago....)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related&#8230;<br />
(Powerline blog on a roll&#8230;)</p>
<p>&#8220;Framing Israel;<br />
&#8220;How the media are reporting the war against the Jews and the west&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://melaniephillips.substack.com/p/framing-israel" rel="nofollow ugc">https://melaniephillips.substack.com/p/framing-israel</a><br />
Containing all kinds of Gaza hospital background&#8230;.<br />
(In fact, it&#8217;s an old Hamas tradition to convert Gaza hospitals into &#8220;All-Purpose Spaces&#8221;&#8230;)</p>
<p>&#8220;Biden Mulls Approval of Fresh $10 Billion for Iran;<br />
&#8220;Sanctions waiver frees up money for Tehran as it funds Hamas’s war on Israel&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://freebeacon.com/national-security/biden-mulls-approval-of-fresh-10-billion-payment-to-iran/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://freebeacon.com/national-security/biden-mulls-approval-of-fresh-10-billion-payment-to-iran/</a><br />
(&#8230;In case anyone WAS wondering what the Muller-in-Chief decided to do with that 6 Billion that &#8220;he&#8221; so judiciously canceled a month or so ago&#8230;.)</p>
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		By: Cappy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/11/13/brendan-oneill-on-hamas-and-our-university-leftists/#comment-2708559</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 14:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNC3OciAF3w

MIT President issues a stunning and brave message.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNC3OciAF3w" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNC3OciAF3w</a></p>
<p>MIT President issues a stunning and brave message.</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey - I have some experience with universities around 2000/2001. The explicitly Arab influence may not have been what it is now, but the anti-Isreal movement was certainly there, and not insignificant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Aubrey &#8211; I have some experience with universities around 2000/2001. The explicitly Arab influence may not have been what it is now, but the anti-Isreal movement was certainly there, and not insignificant.</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems to me that when your political movement develops a raging case of anti-semitism, that is a pretty good indicator that your political movement was already rotten to its core. 

It also seems to me that the nuclear disarmament movement is another example of the left&#039;s oldest play - exploit the idealism of the young to acheive political or military objectives that aren&#039;t otherwise acheivable. I believe that Huxley and many others sincerely desired disarmament on both sides, but I doubt that would have happened. Either the Soviets would have cheated, or they believed that reducing or eliminating nukes put them in a better strategic position. 

I think that&#039;s the same play now with Hamas and the university kids. The whole thing is driven by lies of omission about Hamas&#039;s use of human shields and the extraordinary, but ultimately doomed, efforts of the Israelis to avoid civilian casualities. It looks like the movement is being driven (and funded) by anti-semites, but I suspect that there are many idealistic and wildly uninformed kids as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that when your political movement develops a raging case of anti-semitism, that is a pretty good indicator that your political movement was already rotten to its core. </p>
<p>It also seems to me that the nuclear disarmament movement is another example of the left&#8217;s oldest play &#8211; exploit the idealism of the young to acheive political or military objectives that aren&#8217;t otherwise acheivable. I believe that Huxley and many others sincerely desired disarmament on both sides, but I doubt that would have happened. Either the Soviets would have cheated, or they believed that reducing or eliminating nukes put them in a better strategic position. </p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s the same play now with Hamas and the university kids. The whole thing is driven by lies of omission about Hamas&#8217;s use of human shields and the extraordinary, but ultimately doomed, efforts of the Israelis to avoid civilian casualities. It looks like the movement is being driven (and funded) by anti-semites, but I suspect that there are many idealistic and wildly uninformed kids as well.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/china-joins-condemnations-of-israeli-ministers-statement-about-nuking-gaza/

&lt;blockquote&gt; At a long-planned opening of a United Nations conference whose goal is to establish a nuclear-free zone in the Middle East, many ambassadors express condemnations and criticisms of comments by Heritage Minister Amihai Eliyahu, who later called his remarks in a radio interview Sunday “metaphorical.” [...]
Israel has neither confirmed nor denied its nuclear capability. It is widely believed to possess nuclear weapons, and a former employee at its nuclear reactor served 18 years in Israeli prison for leaking details and pictures of Israel’s alleged nuclear arsenal program to a British newspaper in 1986. 
China’s deputy UN ambassador Geng Shuang says Beijing is “shocked,” calling the statements “extremely irresponsible and disturbing” and saying they should be universally condemned.

He urges Israeli officials to retract the statement and become a party to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, considered the cornerstone of nuclear disarmament, as a non-nuclear weapon state “as soon as possible.”

Geng says China is ready to join other countries “to inject new impetus” to &lt;b&gt;establishing a nuclear weapon-free zone&lt;/b&gt; in the Mideast, saying there is greater urgency because of the current situation in the region.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Some nuclear deterrent, eh? The IRGC and its mullah bosses sure seem to be quivering under their turbans, don&#039;t they!?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/china-joins-condemnations-of-israeli-ministers-statement-about-nuking-gaza/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/china-joins-condemnations-of-israeli-ministers-statement-about-nuking-gaza/</a></p>
<blockquote><p> At a long-planned opening of a United Nations conference whose goal is to establish a nuclear-free zone in the Middle East, many ambassadors express condemnations and criticisms of comments by Heritage Minister Amihai Eliyahu, who later called his remarks in a radio interview Sunday “metaphorical.” [&#8230;]<br />
Israel has neither confirmed nor denied its nuclear capability. It is widely believed to possess nuclear weapons, and a former employee at its nuclear reactor served 18 years in Israeli prison for leaking details and pictures of Israel’s alleged nuclear arsenal program to a British newspaper in 1986.<br />
China’s deputy UN ambassador Geng Shuang says Beijing is “shocked,” calling the statements “extremely irresponsible and disturbing” and saying they should be universally condemned.</p>
<p>He urges Israeli officials to retract the statement and become a party to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, considered the cornerstone of nuclear disarmament, as a non-nuclear weapon state “as soon as possible.”</p>
<p>Geng says China is ready to join other countries “to inject new impetus” to <b>establishing a nuclear weapon-free zone</b> in the Mideast, saying there is greater urgency because of the current situation in the region.</p></blockquote>
<p>Some nuclear deterrent, eh? The IRGC and its mullah bosses sure seem to be quivering under their turbans, don&#8217;t they!?</p>
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