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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2023 02:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[R2L:

I don&#039;t think Gingrich had a chance.  Not &quot;likable,&quot; except by people already on the right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R2L:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Gingrich had a chance.  Not &#8220;likable,&#8221; except by people already on the right.</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/31/open-thread-10-31-23/#comment-2706241</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R2L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2023 02:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AF, I struggle to remember something I supposedly learned yesterday, last week, or last month, so please forgive me for not recalling your support for Romney in 2012.  :-)    In any case, your total output of constructive commentary is just too great to remember details from all of it.

But I disagree here ... &quot;I honestly do not believe anyone could have stopped The Lightbringer’s re-election...&quot; as I perceive if Gingrich had been the Republican nominee, he could have made mincemeat of Obama (despite some of the issues Gingrich still had at that time).  [Or is that an example of hope over experience?]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AF, I struggle to remember something I supposedly learned yesterday, last week, or last month, so please forgive me for not recalling your support for Romney in 2012.  🙂    In any case, your total output of constructive commentary is just too great to remember details from all of it.</p>
<p>But I disagree here &#8230; &#8220;I honestly do not believe anyone could have stopped The Lightbringer’s re-election&#8230;&#8221; as I perceive if Gingrich had been the Republican nominee, he could have made mincemeat of Obama (despite some of the issues Gingrich still had at that time).  [Or is that an example of hope over experience?]</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/31/open-thread-10-31-23/#comment-2706072</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 05:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Kate &#062; Mark Hemingway&#039;s journey of disillusionment with Romney parallels my own. 
Many here may recall that I defended Mitt in 2012, although critical of his sometimes inexplicable actions that allowed Obama Inc to defeat him (but I honestly do not believe anyone could have stopped The Lightbringer&#039;s re-election).

However, his subsequent toadying up to the Democrats was an affront to everyone on the right. I didn&#039;t know then many of the things Hemingway cites from the book, but they certainly validate all the skeptics&#039; qualms about his campaign.
Admitting that he didn&#039;t do even the basics of studying the facts in Trump Impeachment 1.0 was jaw-dropping.

I repent of my former support (although it was based on what I knew at the time) and recant any sympathy for him.
It&#039;s beyond depressing that he still would have been a better (although, apparently, only slightly less damaging) president than Obama.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kate &gt; Mark Hemingway&#8217;s journey of disillusionment with Romney parallels my own.<br />
Many here may recall that I defended Mitt in 2012, although critical of his sometimes inexplicable actions that allowed Obama Inc to defeat him (but I honestly do not believe anyone could have stopped The Lightbringer&#8217;s re-election).</p>
<p>However, his subsequent toadying up to the Democrats was an affront to everyone on the right. I didn&#8217;t know then many of the things Hemingway cites from the book, but they certainly validate all the skeptics&#8217; qualms about his campaign.<br />
Admitting that he didn&#8217;t do even the basics of studying the facts in Trump Impeachment 1.0 was jaw-dropping.</p>
<p>I repent of my former support (although it was based on what I knew at the time) and recant any sympathy for him.<br />
It&#8217;s beyond depressing that he still would have been a better (although, apparently, only slightly less damaging) president than Obama.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/31/open-thread-10-31-23/#comment-2706046</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 02:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The student arrested is apparently ethnic Chinese and grew up in a handsome suburb southeast of Rochester.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The student arrested is apparently ethnic Chinese and grew up in a handsome suburb southeast of Rochester.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/31/open-thread-10-31-23/#comment-2706045</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 02:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seems rather de trop to have federal prosecutors after this yutz.  Yancey took the view that these were false flag posts, but it appears they might have been the genuine article.
==
https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/10/cornell-junior-arrested-and-charged-in-threats-against-jewish-students/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems rather de trop to have federal prosecutors after this yutz.  Yancey took the view that these were false flag posts, but it appears they might have been the genuine article.<br />
==<br />
<a href="https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/10/cornell-junior-arrested-and-charged-in-threats-against-jewish-students/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/10/cornell-junior-arrested-and-charged-in-threats-against-jewish-students/</a></p>
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		By: Bill K		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/31/open-thread-10-31-23/#comment-2706041</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 01:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with om on this one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with om on this one.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/31/open-thread-10-31-23/#comment-2706037</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 01:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine:

The Soveriegn Citizens appear to be delusional maroons.  I don&#039;t need a license to drive my car or have insurance or anything else inconvienient.  Criminals of the petty kind it seems, sort of undocumented freeloaders; almost  Irish Travellers and gypsie wanna bees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine:</p>
<p>The Soveriegn Citizens appear to be delusional maroons.  I don&#8217;t need a license to drive my car or have insurance or anything else inconvienient.  Criminals of the petty kind it seems, sort of undocumented freeloaders; almost  Irish Travellers and gypsie wanna bees.</p>
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		By: Bill K		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/31/open-thread-10-31-23/#comment-2706031</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 00:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ShireHome, I feel your pain.

But have you and Neo seen this on the Mandelbrot set?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlD2rcm971U

Feel free to skip forward to 10:20, where the fun begins...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ShireHome, I feel your pain.</p>
<p>But have you and Neo seen this on the Mandelbrot set?:<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlD2rcm971U" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlD2rcm971U</a></p>
<p>Feel free to skip forward to 10:20, where the fun begins&#8230;</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/31/open-thread-10-31-23/#comment-2705969</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2023 19:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if things like the &quot;sovcit&quot; movement are what you get when a society starts to unravel, and respect for the laws and norms of that society start to dwindle?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if things like the &#8220;sovcit&#8221; movement are what you get when a society starts to unravel, and respect for the laws and norms of that society start to dwindle?</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/31/open-thread-10-31-23/#comment-2705960</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2023 18:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That last link, BTW...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biggest-blunder-history-treasury-druck-dunks-yellen-her-husband-appears-agree
...has an interesting tie-in to mathematics, the topic of this &quot;open&quot; thread:
Interesting grafs:
&#039;...Professor Akerlof [husband of the Wise Owlita&#039;s] observes:
&quot; In the aftermath of the financial crisis of 2008, economists asked the question why no one had predicted it, at least exactly as it happened. Rajan (2011) said that such a prediction had not been made since it would have required detailed knowledge of theory and institutions in the disparate specialties of finance, real estate and macroeconomics...
&quot;&lt;b&gt;There were incentives to present the key pieces of the puzzle, but none to put them together....&lt;/b&gt;&quot; 

&#039;&lt;b&gt;Interestingly, the Economics profession also shunned individuals who did put the key pieces together and predicted the crisis in papers published by the BIS.&lt;/b&gt;
&#039; The lack of a mathematical model made it easy to dismiss these papers too.
&#039;Professor Akerlof goes on to explain how &lt;b&gt;the preoccupation with math effectively blocks the Economics profession from understanding financial crises....

&#039; Shorter, if you cannot express it with a mathematical equation, Economists aren’t interested&lt;/b&gt;....&#039;[All emphasis in original; Barry M.]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last link, BTW&#8230;<br />
<a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biggest-blunder-history-treasury-druck-dunks-yellen-her-husband-appears-agree" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biggest-blunder-history-treasury-druck-dunks-yellen-her-husband-appears-agree</a><br />
&#8230;has an interesting tie-in to mathematics, the topic of this &#8220;open&#8221; thread:<br />
Interesting grafs:<br />
&#8216;&#8230;Professor Akerlof [husband of the Wise Owlita&#8217;s] observes:<br />
&#8221; In the aftermath of the financial crisis of 2008, economists asked the question why no one had predicted it, at least exactly as it happened. Rajan (2011) said that such a prediction had not been made since it would have required detailed knowledge of theory and institutions in the disparate specialties of finance, real estate and macroeconomics&#8230;<br />
&#8220;<b>There were incentives to present the key pieces of the puzzle, but none to put them together&#8230;.</b>&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8216;<b>Interestingly, the Economics profession also shunned individuals who did put the key pieces together and predicted the crisis in papers published by the BIS.</b><br />
&#8216; The lack of a mathematical model made it easy to dismiss these papers too.<br />
&#8216;Professor Akerlof goes on to explain how <b>the preoccupation with math effectively blocks the Economics profession from understanding financial crises&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8216; Shorter, if you cannot express it with a mathematical equation, Economists aren’t interested</b>&#8230;.'[All emphasis in original; Barry M.]</p>
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