Comments on: You know that hospital that supposedly was hit by Israeli fire, but it was actually a Palestinian rocket gone awry?

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 16:18:02 +0000

The Presbyterian Church USA released a statement on Oct 20 that a hospital had been bombed with hundreds of dead. No blame assigned at that point.
Talked to them yesterday and was told they’d update in a week or two after they’ve heard from their team [whatever that is] on the ground.
IOW, about the time it’s cemented in the memories of the chumps, there may be a detail or two added.
Typical of the PCUSA since forever.

By: sdferr

sdferr — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 15:30:44 +0000

IDF released another interrogation: https://youtu.be/4hd6JGX8gwE?si=hbzRVVbAt4Bc1njp

This goes to the subject of tunnels, hospitals, their use and disposition, and the attitudes of Gazans toward them.

By: miguel cervantes

miguel cervantes — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:40:52 +0000

summary by the dog trainer

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-01-25-mn-9288-story.html

By: Turtler

Turtler — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:17:56 +0000

@Someone Else

Oh I do. But that I think underlined why protections are too broad. And after proving dishonesty frankly malice should be assumed as a logical conclusion for dishonesty.

But even without those changes, people still need to go after these scum and retaliate. Including touting the relevant facts loud and proud, even if the formal sentence falls short of justice. Show how these people lie. Show how they are dishonest. And retaliate politically, economically, and personally. Until that happens this will keep happening.

By: miguel cervantes

miguel cervantes — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 12:37:58 +0000

ht Farah DeBouky

Egyptian state affiliated news agency Cairo 24 quotes a source stating that Egyptian telecommunication companies can’t extend access into Gaza because it’s against international law

By: miguel cervantes

miguel cervantes — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 12:26:03 +0000

if I remember the context there, gideon levy the times’ stringer, made some kind of insinuation, that the massacre was due to some revenge by sharon, over one of his sons, of course it was a fraticidal grudge match perpetrated by a phalangist commander, who quelle surprise, defected to the Syrian side, the IDF eventually bllew him up good, though Elias Hobeika was his name,

By: Someone Else

Someone Else — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 11:52:29 +0000

Turtler — it’s virtually impossible to successfully sue media for libel. Remember Ariel Sharon’s lawsuit? He proved Time lied and that they knowingly lied, but he couldn’t prove malice, which is difficult. (Though possibly easier today with so much in the way of emails and texts.) Time, of course, trumpeted it as a HUGE victory for them, as if he hadn’t proved they lied and knowingly lied. So did many other publications.

By: Turtler

Turtler — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 11:36:30 +0000

Honestly I think there needs to be retaliation against “newsmen” that do stuff like this. Sue them for defamation, make it clear that you’re I’ll not tolerate the employing outlet into your country or any interaction with it if they do not publicly disavow. The West’s weaknesses in messaging since WWII have been massive and egregious and if we wish to prevail in the great struggles of today we need to get serious.

By: not_a_lawyer

not_a_lawyer — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 10:48:08 +0000

Using a hospital as a defense for your military command center is like holding up a baby to shield you from someone who is trying to shoot you. It is cowardly and depraved.

I do not believe we (or Israel) should use chemical weapons to clear tunnels insofar as we are signatories to the Geneva Convention which bars them.

There is an ancient Greek legend involving Hercules who was tasked with clearing a divine bull’s pen. The Cretan Bull. He diverted a river to clear the pen as his Seventh Task.

The Gaza strip is next to the Mediterranean Sea. Military ships have great pumping capacity. Send the Navy boys out and lay a pipe from the sea to a tunnel entrance and crank up the pumps. Fill the tunnels with sea water.

Erronius

By: Bucky

Bucky — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 10:42:27 +0000

At the appropriate time Hamas will blow up the al-Shifa Hospital along with all the patients, doctors and assorted Palestinians sheltering there, and blame the IDF. The usual suspects in the West will buy that story hook, line and sinker and accuse Israel of genocide.