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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/25/mass-murder-in-lewiston-maine/#comment-2705129</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2023 04:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[not_a_lawyer:

In this case the crime really seems to have nothing whatsoever to do with Somalians in Lewiston, and what&#039;s more the perp lived in Bowdoin, which has a very different demographic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not_a_lawyer:</p>
<p>In this case the crime really seems to have nothing whatsoever to do with Somalians in Lewiston, and what&#8217;s more the perp lived in Bowdoin, which has a very different demographic.</p>
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		By: not_a_lawyer		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/25/mass-murder-in-lewiston-maine/#comment-2705093</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2023 00:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never been to Maine, but I know that the state has been allowing large numbers Somalian &#039;refugees&#039; to settle in Lewiston.

I&#039;ve been watching Fox News and they have had hours of coverage of the search for the shooter. Not one of them will mention the fact that the culture of Maine and particularly Lewiston is being disrupted by mass immigration.

I&#039;m not saying that a massacre is an acceptable response to your township being overrun by an alien culture, but our legislature is allowing for that to happen.

Let Maine be Maine. There is no reason for Somalians to be there in large numbers.

Erronius]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been to Maine, but I know that the state has been allowing large numbers Somalian &#8216;refugees&#8217; to settle in Lewiston.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been watching Fox News and they have had hours of coverage of the search for the shooter. Not one of them will mention the fact that the culture of Maine and particularly Lewiston is being disrupted by mass immigration.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that a massacre is an acceptable response to your township being overrun by an alien culture, but our legislature is allowing for that to happen.</p>
<p>Let Maine be Maine. There is no reason for Somalians to be there in large numbers.</p>
<p>Erronius</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2023 23:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JFM.
You can get a weapon if the guy in charge of the arms room feels like it.  You, in effect, sign for it.  In my time, you left your &quot;weapons card&quot; in the slot from which the weapon was taken.

It&#039;s possible the range officer is also in charge of the arms room.  On active duty bases, the arms rooms are near the quarters and the ranges are out in the country.  It&#039;s inconvenient for one guy to cover both.

In the reserve component, the ranges are usually available during your two weeks&#039; annual training at an active training base.  The weapons may, depending, be on hand close to home the rest of the year.  There are other arrangements.  But the bottom line is that Card is not likely to have gotten a military weapon and logically expected to get away with it.

So either he didn&#039;t care...or he got himself a semi-auto at a retail shop or from a friend.  Might get away with it for a bit longer.

If he&#039;d had a mil grade weapon, it would have had a &quot;burst&quot; function, which is to say that you fire single shots or you select for a three-shot burst with one trigger pull.  No full auto any longer.

Like to know if there were reports of burst fire.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JFM.<br />
You can get a weapon if the guy in charge of the arms room feels like it.  You, in effect, sign for it.  In my time, you left your &#8220;weapons card&#8221; in the slot from which the weapon was taken.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible the range officer is also in charge of the arms room.  On active duty bases, the arms rooms are near the quarters and the ranges are out in the country.  It&#8217;s inconvenient for one guy to cover both.</p>
<p>In the reserve component, the ranges are usually available during your two weeks&#8217; annual training at an active training base.  The weapons may, depending, be on hand close to home the rest of the year.  There are other arrangements.  But the bottom line is that Card is not likely to have gotten a military weapon and logically expected to get away with it.</p>
<p>So either he didn&#8217;t care&#8230;or he got himself a semi-auto at a retail shop or from a friend.  Might get away with it for a bit longer.</p>
<p>If he&#8217;d had a mil grade weapon, it would have had a &#8220;burst&#8221; function, which is to say that you fire single shots or you select for a three-shot burst with one trigger pull.  No full auto any longer.</p>
<p>Like to know if there were reports of burst fire.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2023 21:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo--I believe that patient compliance in taking prescribed medicines is quite low. 

Looking at recent articles featuring statistics on noncompliance rates for prescription drugs I see figures as high as 40% noncompliance, and, in particular,  for psychiatric drugs the statistic is 40% to 50% or more noncompliance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo&#8211;I believe that patient compliance in taking prescribed medicines is quite low. </p>
<p>Looking at recent articles featuring statistics on noncompliance rates for prescription drugs I see figures as high as 40% noncompliance, and, in particular,  for psychiatric drugs the statistic is 40% to 50% or more noncompliance.</p>
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		By: JFM		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/25/mass-murder-in-lewiston-maine/#comment-2705043</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2023 21:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the reports are correct, Card was a range officer (not a rank, but title) and arms instructor in the Reserves. I don’t know his regular service history (yet) but his position in the Reserve would have given him access to firearms. Either from the Army or through connections. No “red flag “ or any gun control law could have stopped him from getting a weapon. Also the death toll was so high because he knew what he was doing. Most spree killers don’t. This lack of knowledge has kept the number of people killed during these events fairly low. The Vegas killer could have legally brought a belt fed machine gun (having the money and clean criminal history) and the number of victims would have been much, much higher. Sometimes ignorance actually protects us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the reports are correct, Card was a range officer (not a rank, but title) and arms instructor in the Reserves. I don’t know his regular service history (yet) but his position in the Reserve would have given him access to firearms. Either from the Army or through connections. No “red flag “ or any gun control law could have stopped him from getting a weapon. Also the death toll was so high because he knew what he was doing. Most spree killers don’t. This lack of knowledge has kept the number of people killed during these events fairly low. The Vegas killer could have legally brought a belt fed machine gun (having the money and clean criminal history) and the number of victims would have been much, much higher. Sometimes ignorance actually protects us.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2023 21:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John S--As I&#039;ve commented here many times over the years, from the studies I&#039;ve looked at--particularly well designed studies involving thousands of subjects who were studied, periodically tested and evaluated, and followed for many years or even a couple of decades--marijuana is not a &quot;harmless&quot; drug at all.

The use of marijuana, particularly it&#039;s heavy use in the years before say, 18 years of age, leads to effects like significant and permanent I.Q. loss, and it increases your chances of suffering &quot;cognitive decline, &quot; as well as from a number of serious mental illnesses.

I know that States which have legalized marijuana see dollar signs and let themselves be seduced into buying some sort of &quot;freedom&quot; argument, but, if you value your mental health and your future, marijuana is not something to ingest. 

Funny, too, how more and more states which have legalized marijuana are finding more and more erratic,&quot;impaired, &quot; and dangerous drivers on their roads with marijuana in their personal possession or in their cars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John S&#8211;As I&#8217;ve commented here many times over the years, from the studies I&#8217;ve looked at&#8211;particularly well designed studies involving thousands of subjects who were studied, periodically tested and evaluated, and followed for many years or even a couple of decades&#8211;marijuana is not a &#8220;harmless&#8221; drug at all.</p>
<p>The use of marijuana, particularly it&#8217;s heavy use in the years before say, 18 years of age, leads to effects like significant and permanent I.Q. loss, and it increases your chances of suffering &#8220;cognitive decline, &#8221; as well as from a number of serious mental illnesses.</p>
<p>I know that States which have legalized marijuana see dollar signs and let themselves be seduced into buying some sort of &#8220;freedom&#8221; argument, but, if you value your mental health and your future, marijuana is not something to ingest. </p>
<p>Funny, too, how more and more states which have legalized marijuana are finding more and more erratic,&#8221;impaired, &#8221; and dangerous drivers on their roads with marijuana in their personal possession or in their cars.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/25/mass-murder-in-lewiston-maine/#comment-2705030</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2023 21:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine:

Yes, people stop taking meds, in part because they feel better and in part because they don&#039;t like the side effects.  The consequences of stopping are usually quite bad.

I&#039;ve researched the question of whether anti-depressants cause more suicides, and my answer is no they do not. Somewhere there&#039;s a post I wrote about it, but I don&#039;t have time to locate it right now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine:</p>
<p>Yes, people stop taking meds, in part because they feel better and in part because they don&#8217;t like the side effects.  The consequences of stopping are usually quite bad.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve researched the question of whether anti-depressants cause more suicides, and my answer is no they do not. Somewhere there&#8217;s a post I wrote about it, but I don&#8217;t have time to locate it right now.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/25/mass-murder-in-lewiston-maine/#comment-2705029</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2023 21:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S.  We have all of these supposedly marvelous new psychiatric drugs, but #1, you have to want to take them on a regular basis, and #2, you have to be in good enough shape to remember to take them on a regular basis. 

I don&#039;t  know how many stories I&#039;ve read, over the years, in which some family member says--of someone who has just committed some violent crime or the other--&quot;he just stopped taking his meds.&quot;

I gather that one of the very common problems is that, once some of your symptoms recede, the tendency is to imagine that you have been cured, and that you no longer need to keep taking your meds. 

Finally, I&#039;ve seen a few articles alleging that some of the more commonly prescribed psychoactive drugs (or other non-psychiatric drugs as well) are actually causing more mental illness/violent behavior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  We have all of these supposedly marvelous new psychiatric drugs, but #1, you have to want to take them on a regular basis, and #2, you have to be in good enough shape to remember to take them on a regular basis. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t  know how many stories I&#8217;ve read, over the years, in which some family member says&#8211;of someone who has just committed some violent crime or the other&#8211;&#8220;he just stopped taking his meds.&#8221;</p>
<p>I gather that one of the very common problems is that, once some of your symptoms recede, the tendency is to imagine that you have been cured, and that you no longer need to keep taking your meds. </p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;ve seen a few articles alleging that some of the more commonly prescribed psychoactive drugs (or other non-psychiatric drugs as well) are actually causing more mental illness/violent behavior.</p>
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		By: John S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2023 21:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maine embraced recreational marijuana years ago. Don&#039;t rule out the possibility of reefer madness, i.e. a psychotic break induced by high potency modern weed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maine embraced recreational marijuana years ago. Don&#8217;t rule out the possibility of reefer madness, i.e. a psychotic break induced by high potency modern weed.</p>
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		By: Turtler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Turtler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2023 20:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@OBloodyHell

&lt;blockquote&gt; I’m sorry, Turtler, but… source?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No worries.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180302192126/http://daggy.name/tbsd/cinquest.htm

The best is the horse&#039;s mouth, the inquest itself, which pointed out Kehoe&#039;s extensive history shooting as well as the decision to use the explosives to push people out of the building, at which point he opened fire on them for some time. This is one reason why there was a struggle with the gun.

In particular Kehoe killed his first victim with the gun, his wife, whose body was later found.

Suffice it to say, I don&#039;t know the exact number of deaths from gunshot but Kehoe certainly had at least one (his wife) and many more injured. Like the Columbine Murderers it was a combined attack, with the big ticket items being the bombs and firepower being used to kill as many of the survivors as possible. Unfortunately in this case Kehoe was a far better engineer than Harris or Klebold were.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@OBloodyHell</p>
<blockquote><p> I’m sorry, Turtler, but… source?</p></blockquote>
<p>No worries.</p>
<p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180302192126/http://daggy.name/tbsd/cinquest.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">https://web.archive.org/web/20180302192126/http://daggy.name/tbsd/cinquest.htm</a></p>
<p>The best is the horse&#8217;s mouth, the inquest itself, which pointed out Kehoe&#8217;s extensive history shooting as well as the decision to use the explosives to push people out of the building, at which point he opened fire on them for some time. This is one reason why there was a struggle with the gun.</p>
<p>In particular Kehoe killed his first victim with the gun, his wife, whose body was later found.</p>
<p>Suffice it to say, I don&#8217;t know the exact number of deaths from gunshot but Kehoe certainly had at least one (his wife) and many more injured. Like the Columbine Murderers it was a combined attack, with the big ticket items being the bombs and firepower being used to kill as many of the survivors as possible. Unfortunately in this case Kehoe was a far better engineer than Harris or Klebold were.</p>
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