Comments on: Academics and artists for Palestinian terror https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/20/academics-and-artists-for-palestine-terror/ A blog about political change, among other things Sun, 22 Oct 2023 19:06:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Art Deco https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/20/academics-and-artists-for-palestine-terror/#comment-2704191 Sun, 22 Oct 2023 19:06:01 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129708#comment-2704191 A few years ago someone well known in literary circles (I can’t remember his name)
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It was Paul Elie. Not that well-known. He was on the masthead at Commonweal if I’m not mistaken. We have one of his books, an assemblage of short biographies.

]]> By: Mac https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/20/academics-and-artists-for-palestine-terror/#comment-2704186 Sun, 22 Oct 2023 16:58:17 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129708#comment-2704186 Art Deco: “Flannery O’Connor’s work and public utterances do not map well to political disputes that were abroad during the period running from 1943-64.”

Or now. It’s definitely a stretch to put either the conservative or liberal stamp on her. She was not a political animal. If memory serves she voted for JFK in 1960. It may have been that election in which she described going to vote with her mother so they could cancel out each other’s votes. Could have been Ike-Adlai I guess–similar antimony in any case.

Of late she has been tried and convicted of racism, on the basis of several statements and incidents, such as refusing to meet with James Baldwin. A few years ago someone well known in literary circles (I can’t remember his name) published a piece that got a lot of attention called something like “How Racist Was Flannery O’Connor?” I was so irritated by the when-did-you-stop-beating-your-wife framing of the question that I refused to read it. I think some college un-named a building that had been named for her. Fools.

]]> By: Art Deco https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/20/academics-and-artists-for-palestine-terror/#comment-2704184 Sun, 22 Oct 2023 15:46:24 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129708#comment-2704184 Flannery O’Connor’s work and public utterances do not map well to political disputes that were abroad during the period running from 1943-64. She was a loyal Southerner who with her mother preferred to have a gathering on the anniversary of Georgia’s secession than on the 4th of July. OTOH, she gave up on segregation, not when she was living in New York, but when she was living with her mother in Milledgeville.

]]> By: miguel cervantes https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/20/academics-and-artists-for-palestine-terror/#comment-2704183 Sun, 22 Oct 2023 15:45:59 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129708#comment-2704183 You forgot Dos Passos who had an awakening in the Spanish Civil War, he hated Wilson with a passion, probably for the wrong reasons,

]]> By: Hubert https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/20/academics-and-artists-for-palestine-terror/#comment-2704182 Sun, 22 Oct 2023 15:35:36 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129708#comment-2704182 “It’s hard to recall exceptions. T.S. Eliot, the later John Dos Passos, Nabokov, the Fugitive poets. Thank God for Tom Wolfe. Visual artists are harder.”

Some conservative 20th century writers:

Evelyn Waugh
Anthony Powell
Philip Larkin (whose “This Be The Verse” PA+Cat shared in another thread)
Kingsley Amis (Larkin’s buddy)
Robert Frost
John O’Hara
John P. Marquand
Flannery O’Connor
John Updike (not just his Vietnam essay, but his stories about the Maples)

I’m sure there are others; these are the ones that come to mind. The novelist Robert Stone wasn’t a conservative, but, as a disillusioned member of the 1960s counterculture, he had a very jaundiced view of the Left.

Visual artists are indeed harder. Among American artists of the 20th century, I suspect N.C. Wyeth, Edward Hopper, Tom Lea, and Harvey Dunn would have fallen on the conservative side of the political spectrum, to the extent they were political at all. Lea and Dunn were war artists.

]]> By: israel https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/20/academics-and-artists-for-palestine-terror/#comment-2704174 Sun, 22 Oct 2023 14:13:54 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129708#comment-2704174 in other related news

https://deadline.com/2023/10/israel-war-wga-no-support-statement-1235579991/

]]> By: Surellin https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/20/academics-and-artists-for-palestine-terror/#comment-2704146 Sun, 22 Oct 2023 02:16:10 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129708#comment-2704146 Speaking of embarrassments in academia, whatever happened to the Duke University Group of 88? They falsely accused the Duke lacrosse team of gang rape and, I think, escaped any consequences.

]]> By: miguel cervantes https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/20/academics-and-artists-for-palestine-terror/#comment-2704126 Sat, 21 Oct 2023 23:09:11 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129708#comment-2704126 Vargas llosa had left politics in his youth, but he turned strongly against the castro regime, and their proxies in peru, he ran for office on a tom wolfe like campaign in 1990, I wrote a newspaper piece about it for the college paper,

his son wrote the classic primer against anti American idiocy, which was unlearned in the 00s

]]> By: huxley https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/20/academics-and-artists-for-palestine-terror/#comment-2704123 Sat, 21 Oct 2023 22:34:21 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129708#comment-2704123 I couldn’t tell you what Faulkner’s or Hemingway’s politics were.

Jimmy:

Hemingway wrote “For Whom the Bell Tolls,” which firmly took the side of the left in the Spanish Civil War, albeit with reservations about the Soviets.

Faulkner’s politics are murkier, but there’s no question where he stood on civil rights and race relations in the South.

]]> By: miguel cervantes https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/20/academics-and-artists-for-palestine-terror/#comment-2704047 Sat, 21 Oct 2023 13:38:42 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129708#comment-2704047 I remember there was an AMC production, an inconvenient woman, with maggie gylennhall, which proferred the Gaza narrative that was a few years ago,

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