Changing the subject to McCarthy, who isn’t in the running for speaker, weak. Deflection and spin.

You could have selected a random sample of Republicans and bounced them against the Open Secrets database. That wouldn’t be cherry picking (hint). You would still have to have gone through the effort of actually selecting a random sample of Republican congressmen. Too hard? Fail.

“Cherry picking – selecting data that supports a preconceived outcome.” – um

That would require that I knew the amount of PAC money received by all the representatives that voted against Jordan and then used the ones the supported my assertion that the representatives would have to rely more on individual donations if Jordan were elected. I’ve said twice that I did not do that.

By the way, in the 2022 election cycle only Chuck Schumer received more lobbyist money than Kevin McCarthy– McCarthy received $1.2 million from lobbyists and their families, vs. $1.5 million to Schumer.

You asked me what was the right amount of money from PACS. I think the right number is less than the money received from LIC and SIC.

Do I believe Open Secrets? No reason not to. They compile data that is publicly available. Doesn’t mean I agree with their conclusions– that’s a different subject.

Who voted with all the Democrats to start this?

Brain E:
Cherry picking – selecting data that supports a preconceived outcome. Five first then another 10, selected at “random.” LOL.

How about selecting randomly from all the House Republicans? Pray tell how did you generate your random group of Republican congressmen? Crickets.

‘I trusted Open Secrets! Believe me, I’m Brain E.’

Have you ever had to do a random sample generation process for sampling, when real money was involved, instead of just using the word “random” to bolster your spin?

It seems you are still resentful.

But back to basics: Who voted with all the Democrats to start this? And why would anyone trust a scorpion?

You might want to check your reading comprehension.

Here’s what I originally wrote:

“The bigger issue is Jordan probably doesn’t have the contacts of the GOPe donor wing and won’t be able to bring home the gravy to congresspersons– forcing them to rely on their constituents for their campaigns.”

To which you responded:

Brian E posits that somehow Gaetz and the seven dwarves and Jordon are pure as the wind driven snow (not the yellow snow that “liberal” Republicans prefer).”

I thought that was one of your usual cheap shots, so as I considered how to demonstrate (if it was possible) that these folks might be relying on special interest money– both from Republican leadership and from other big donors, I thought about looking at their contributions. That would have taken weeks, so when I noticed that Open Secrets and a summary of their contributions in the categories I posted them.

While it’s no proof they are beholden to special interests, it was apparent that these folks, with a couple of exceptions, received almost no contributions from small donations– which is exactly the point I was originally trying to make.

And whether or not you had no problem with Jordan is completely irrelevant to the discussion.

At some point blaming Gaetz for this will be past it’s sell-by-date. The majority will, at some point have to hold their noses and vote for someone they don’t like– and reserve the right to hold them accountable.

Here’s how this all came about:
 

“The House will vote Saturday on a 45-day “clean” stopgap funding bill that includes money for disaster relief, a major turn in strategy for Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) ahead of a midnight shutdown deadline.

“If someone wants to remove because I want to be the adult in the room, go ahead and try,” McCarthy said.

Maybe McCarthy shouldn’t have made inflammatory statements like that, or sent a cr to the floor that required “heavy Democrat support”. Yes, Gaetz taking the bait was childish, but so was McCarthy daring him to do it.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4209325-house-gop-reaches-short-term-spending-deal-with-cuts-and-border-policy-changes/

I had no problem with Jordon, to repeat myself. Understand?

I do wonder if you understand sampling a population or how to pick a random sample. Don’t get resentful again.

Now how is your inference about the motives of those voting against Jordon are connected or correlated to your fund raising data? It could be they don’t like unicorns or Jordon. About as valid as your throw sh*t on the wall logic.

Don’t get resentful because Gaetz started this sh*t show.

um, what part of “random sample” don’t you understand?

I could do all 23, but Open Secrets didn’t have data for a few of them.

While it’s not dipositive of outside interests having too much influence over the representative, the fact that most of the naysayers had few to no small contributions is significant, IMO. The Large Individual Contributions are more than $200. The Small Individual Contributions are less than $200.

The greater the individual contributions, the more likely the representative is, you know, representing the interests of their constituents.

Besides being influenced by PACs, other reasons they refused to agree to Jordan could be their vindictive pettiness, addiction to pork, globalist/free trade, or neo-con impulse.

By the way, here’s the data for Jim Jordan:

SIC 58%; LIC 37%; Other 3%; PAC 2%.

You initially cited 5 republicans that bolstered your point that the GOP non-gang of eight are evil and corrupted by PACs? So now you get around to a longer list, ten this time.

Look up “cherry picking.” It isn’t the same as flat out Brandonizing.

Is there a specific percentage of PAC funding that is the Brain E acceptance criteria for a GOP politician? IIRC the Hildabeast and John McCain were both hot about campaign financing and PACs. Choose wisely Brain E.

Resentment won’t get you far dude.

“The short version is that I’ve not had much luck with Glucosamine and Chondroitin. But our daughter has. Different strokes for different folks”

• Interesting II.

• I have also had great success with Glucosamine and Chondroitin.

• Dated a vet – equine surgeon – who told me that health care for humans is way behind understanding how beneficial G&C can be – while noting your observation: Results may vary.

Thank you for the info.

*****
Long Version:

• Have worn away much of my knee cartilage due to my love of backpacking & climbing – 60-70 lb. backpacks, tortuous terrain, etc. – and in my early 40’s found myself in great pain just walking from the parking garage to my office.

• Went to see a top Orthopedist, and after examining me, going over my activity history, we went over options. A) Continue to backpack & climb and then replace my knees when they eventually failed. B) Switch entirely to activities that did not wear away the remaining cartilage (e.g., cycling, diving). He knew I was not going to stop being active/ exploring.

• My then GF was a master diver who was thrilled about the aspect of us travelling the world & diving. But I knew, I enjoyed terra firma more than the sea. And surgery was a ‘no go’ for me.

• Then one of my staff mentioned Glucosamine and Chondroitin.

• Just like surgery is a ‘no go’ for me, prescriptions are a ‘no go’ too ^^. But this was not a prescription – it was a supplement. Willing to consider.

^^ = have had extraordinarily good health all my life – in part because I do have regular physicals, pay attention to my diet & exercise, etc. – and I am not anti-medicine/ science; but do not believe that the ‘pill or knife’ is the only answer.

• Amazing difference. Went back to doing everything I did before, same degree of difficulty, etc. No more pain. Did start to wear neoprene sleeves over both knees to help with alignment, and still take G&C every day.

• Lastly, returned to the same Orthopedist for a shoulder injury – I am not the greatest skier – and he asked me about my knees. Told him about the G&C, and he was very interested in the results.

Again, thank you for the info.

The short version is that I’ve not had much luck with Glucosamine and Chondroitin. But our daughter has. She uses it successfully for knee and wrist pain.

I have had better luck with Turmeric for inflammation.

Different strokes for different folks. 🙂