Comments on: Open thread 10/19/23 https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/19/open-thread-10-19-23/ A blog about political change, among other things Fri, 20 Oct 2023 10:49:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: neo https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/19/open-thread-10-19-23/#comment-2703894 Fri, 20 Oct 2023 10:49:06 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129679#comment-2703894 TJ:

That was one of my first thoughts when I heard about both the attack and the permits. It makes a great deal of sense, and is extremely chilling.

]]> By: TJ https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/19/open-thread-10-19-23/#comment-2703892 Fri, 20 Oct 2023 09:50:08 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129679#comment-2703892 What made the evil on October 6 happen? According to Daniel Greenfield (“Sultan Knish”), it was almost simple.

Over two-and a half years saw Gaza worker permits rise by almost 20 times. This allowed direct and second hand intelligence details on the raid’s terrorist victims. They used it to target their victims, for example, even knowing in Kibbutz dwellers names and numbers in households. And terror and elimination could be complete.

This is chilling. Thus, “ISRAEL’S WORK PERMITS FOR GAZA ENABLED THE HAMAS ATTACK,” as Greenfield’s title says.

And therefore we have a sound and resounding explanation for Mossad’s failure. And Hamas’ surprise success.
http://www.danielgreenfield.org/2023/10/israels-work-permits-for-gaza-enabled.html

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/19/open-thread-10-19-23/#comment-2703883 Fri, 20 Oct 2023 07:22:42 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129679#comment-2703883 Great weather for leaf-peeping in Denver, and I don’t even have to leave my front porch, because my maple is a brilliant red and the neighboring yards have lovely yellow and gold trees to complement it.

]]> By: TR https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/19/open-thread-10-19-23/#comment-2703879 Fri, 20 Oct 2023 05:36:07 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129679#comment-2703879 Mr. Biden has recently said, that he wants the Federal Government to back [Israel and Ukraine], in the wars that those countries are in.

[This is unbelievable].

The enemies of The United States, and the enemies of The US’ allies, are not fools, and these enemies have also read about recent history.

All these enemy nations have to do is:

wait for the Liberal part of The US to get [bored] with the wars…and tell the government to leave the wars,

or wait for the Liberals in The US to start feeling that The US [has lost too many…US military people] in these wars…and tell the government to leave these wars,

or wait for the Liberals to start feeling that The US [has spent too much money] in these wars…and tell the government to leave these wars.

The enemies of The US, and its allies- saw the Liberals tell [Biden and the Government] to leave the 2021…War in Afghanistan, so Biden did.

Biden wanted out of the 2021, War in Afghanistan, so he left the war- in a very, quick way, and in a very disastrous way.

So- the enemies of: Israel, The US, and Ukraine, just have to wait.

The enemies of those nations just have to wait for these two wars to get too costly, or too long- and Biden, or some other US President who wants to give in to an impatient public, will abandon those two wars, just like Biden abandoned- the 2021, War in Afghanistan.

https://www.koat.com/article/biden-oval-office-address-wartime-aid-israel-ukraine/45579229

]]> By: William https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/19/open-thread-10-19-23/#comment-2703874 Fri, 20 Oct 2023 04:28:03 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129679#comment-2703874 I moved to the desert SW. This is one of the few things about the Northeast I miss.

]]> By: huxley https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/19/open-thread-10-19-23/#comment-2703864 Fri, 20 Oct 2023 03:09:51 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129679#comment-2703864 Re: AI

Snow on Pine et al.:

Yes, we aren’t looking at the homicidal HAL computer from “2001”, but AI has just begun to fight. I have no idea what to do about it. Just ChatGPT is going to make bigger waves than most are prepared for.

“South Park” is still going strong. Here’s a full free episode on ChatGPT in high school. Excellent.

–South Park, “Season 26, Ep. 4 – Deep Learning”
https://southpark.cc.com/episodes/8byci4/south-park-deep-learning-season-26-ep-4

]]> By: Snow on Pine https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/19/open-thread-10-19-23/#comment-2703855 Fri, 20 Oct 2023 02:24:15 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129679#comment-2703855 RE: UFOs– the DNI releases their Congressionally mandated Report on UFOs and other than one line, on page two of this fourteen page Report, in which it says”…there are some cases where reported UAP have potentially exhibited one or more concerning performance characteristics such as high speed travel or unusual maneuverability.” it takes 14 pages full of government speak to say basically nothing.*

* See https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/reports-publications/reports-publications-2023/3733-2023-consolidated-annual-report-on-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena

]]> By: huxley https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/19/open-thread-10-19-23/#comment-2703851 Fri, 20 Oct 2023 01:47:07 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129679#comment-2703851 Recently I asked my niece what special songs she was listening to. She linked this one to me. It’s got a real autumn feel:
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Will you still love me when I’m no longer young and beautiful?
Will you still love me when I got nothing but my aching soul?
I know you will, I know you will, I know that you will
Will you still love me when I’m no longer beautiful?

–Lana Del Rey, “Young and Beautiful”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_1aF54DO60
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Most current pop sucks, but we’ve got some great women singers carrying the torch.

]]> By: Snow on Pine https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/19/open-thread-10-19-23/#comment-2703848 Fri, 20 Oct 2023 01:30:26 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129679#comment-2703848 In the linked Youtube video public intellectual Eric Weinstein makes the point that AI is about to wipe out both the Capitalist and the Communist economic models–that a massive and increasing number of both high end jobs and low end, repetitive jobs will be taken over, their prior human occupants superannuated, out of work–and, yet, no one is seriously sitting down or organizing an effort to try to come up with an alternative model which takes the far reaching effects of AI into account. *

* See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec-uNe_6vPA

]]> By: huxley https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/19/open-thread-10-19-23/#comment-2703847 Fri, 20 Oct 2023 01:22:21 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=129679#comment-2703847 Re; Autumn poems

When I was younger, autumn evoked a sad, haunted feeling — the passing of time, the coming of winter, all that. This Neruda poem captured that:
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Autumn Returns

The horse of old autumn has a red beard
and the froth of fear covers his cheeks
and the air which follows him is shaped like an ocean
and smells of vague buried decay.

Every day a color like ashes drops from the sky;
the doves must deal it out for the earth:
the rope which is woven by oblivion and tears,
time which has slept long years in the bells, everything,
the outworn clothes, the women watching the snow fall,
the black poppies which no one can look at without dying,
everything falls into the hands which I raise
into the midst of the rain.

–Pablo Neruda, “Autumn Returns” trans. W. S. Merwin
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Much surrealism, especially French surrealism, was gimmicky. Andre Breton, the de facto pope of surrealism, explained surrealism as “the chance encounter of a sewing machine and an umbrella on an operating table,”

This approach produces great images, tiny fireworks in the brain, but it was Neruda and Lorca who harnessed that energy for the organic expression of human experience … if that doesn’t sound like aesthetic gibberish.

How I still love Neruda’s early poems.

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