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		By: Oligonicella		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 17:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Found it.  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM2-ikUxRCQ&#038;list=PLG3BG6P7u9CRpOfSk-nuq3mVfLyXvISH1&#038;index=11&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Elephant&#039;s Memory - Brief Encounter (by EarpJohn).&lt;/a&gt;  Deep sax comes in around 2:00.

Mediocre band, a good piece.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found it.  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM2-ikUxRCQ&amp;list=PLG3BG6P7u9CRpOfSk-nuq3mVfLyXvISH1&amp;index=11" rel="nofollow ugc">Elephant&#8217;s Memory &#8211; Brief Encounter (by EarpJohn).</a>  Deep sax comes in around 2:00.</p>
<p>Mediocre band, a good piece.</p>
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		By: Oligonicella		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/17/open-thread-10-17-23/#comment-2703702</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oligonicella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 15:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The coolest harmonica I ever owned was a Hohner double bass, no draw.  Learned to play it a little.  Only piece I ever got down was Elephant&#039;s Memory... something with a lot of sax bass.  

Finally gave it to a friend who was actually in a band.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The coolest harmonica I ever owned was a Hohner double bass, no draw.  Learned to play it a little.  Only piece I ever got down was Elephant&#8217;s Memory&#8230; something with a lot of sax bass.  </p>
<p>Finally gave it to a friend who was actually in a band.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 02:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oligonicella,

I learned harmonica for the same reason as you; it was the only instrument I could afford. I did become stage worthy and have made money playing. When I was 17 my sister was dating someone who had a spare horn laying around and loaned it to me, so I bought a Rubank&#039;s elementary and taught myself that. Two years later I auditioned and made it into band in College. I&#039;ve made a fair amount of money playing it over the decades. Well, let me correct that. I&#039;ve played a lot of paying gigs with my horn, but there&#039;s never been much money in it. When I got in my first blues/jazz band at the age of 21 I was very eager and gung-ho and kept getting the band paying gigs. My bandmates were all in their 30s and had been playing for years. Nice guys but they were a little annoyed at all the work I was getting them. They mainly liked to hang out in the drummer&#039;s attic and jam. They gave me some great advice which changed my attitude; &quot;There&#039;s no money in this. Just do it for the enjoyment.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oligonicella,</p>
<p>I learned harmonica for the same reason as you; it was the only instrument I could afford. I did become stage worthy and have made money playing. When I was 17 my sister was dating someone who had a spare horn laying around and loaned it to me, so I bought a Rubank&#8217;s elementary and taught myself that. Two years later I auditioned and made it into band in College. I&#8217;ve made a fair amount of money playing it over the decades. Well, let me correct that. I&#8217;ve played a lot of paying gigs with my horn, but there&#8217;s never been much money in it. When I got in my first blues/jazz band at the age of 21 I was very eager and gung-ho and kept getting the band paying gigs. My bandmates were all in their 30s and had been playing for years. Nice guys but they were a little annoyed at all the work I was getting them. They mainly liked to hang out in the drummer&#8217;s attic and jam. They gave me some great advice which changed my attitude; &#8220;There&#8217;s no money in this. Just do it for the enjoyment.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Oligonicella		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 01:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley:  

Cool story.  

I switched because of discomfort but I kept block printing through life just so I could read my own writing later.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley:  </p>
<p>Cool story.  </p>
<p>I switched because of discomfort but I kept block printing through life just so I could read my own writing later.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 00:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I block print or type,&lt;/i&gt;

Oligonicella:

Me too. The nuns weren&#039;t happy with my cursive so I switched to block printing. I admit I was being passive-aggressive, but I also liked the look better.

In my twenties I discovered I had unconsciously copied my father&#039;s architect handwriting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I block print or type,</i></p>
<p>Oligonicella:</p>
<p>Me too. The nuns weren&#8217;t happy with my cursive so I switched to block printing. I admit I was being passive-aggressive, but I also liked the look better.</p>
<p>In my twenties I discovered I had unconsciously copied my father&#8217;s architect handwriting.</p>
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		By: Oligonicella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oligonicella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 20:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Concerning music: 

We didn&#039;t have the bucks for lessons of any nature so I started with a cheap guitar I bought.  Then gave it to somebody.  Flute?  Same.  Harmonica?  There I stuck and became a self-taught fair player, but never stage worthy.  Never driven either.  

But I will sit in awe watching someone who truly understands their instrument.  

Or better yet, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXatvzWAzLU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;a group of them&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning music: </p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t have the bucks for lessons of any nature so I started with a cheap guitar I bought.  Then gave it to somebody.  Flute?  Same.  Harmonica?  There I stuck and became a self-taught fair player, but never stage worthy.  Never driven either.  </p>
<p>But I will sit in awe watching someone who truly understands their instrument.  </p>
<p>Or better yet, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXatvzWAzLU" rel="nofollow ugc">a group of them</a>.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 19:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having read what Anne wrote about her accordion experience,  I conclude that she is quite justified in her dislike of the instrument. It is not good parental practice to force  instrument lessons on a child when the child has expressed a desire to learn another instrument. 

I disliked accordion music until I heard Wierd Al and  Flaco Jimenez. I wasn&#039;t forced to take accordion lessons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read what Anne wrote about her accordion experience,  I conclude that she is quite justified in her dislike of the instrument. It is not good parental practice to force  instrument lessons on a child when the child has expressed a desire to learn another instrument. </p>
<p>I disliked accordion music until I heard Wierd Al and  Flaco Jimenez. I wasn&#8217;t forced to take accordion lessons.</p>
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		By: Oligonicella		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 19:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Huxley, Rufus:

I&#039;m right handed and I hate writing, cursive in particular.  My hand cramps in minutes.  I block print or type, typing preferred.  Not forced training or anything, it&#039;s just simpler to block print and I find cursive takes too much minute movement.  

Which is kinda odd as I paint detailed realism with my hand close up, resting on a mahl instead of that hand hovering a foot away approach some do.

This was always so but once I learned typing, I bought a typewriter and never looked back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huxley, Rufus:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m right handed and I hate writing, cursive in particular.  My hand cramps in minutes.  I block print or type, typing preferred.  Not forced training or anything, it&#8217;s just simpler to block print and I find cursive takes too much minute movement.  </p>
<p>Which is kinda odd as I paint detailed realism with my hand close up, resting on a mahl instead of that hand hovering a foot away approach some do.</p>
<p>This was always so but once I learned typing, I bought a typewriter and never looked back.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 19:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly
&lt;blockquote&gt;Gringo,Are you “right” handed and, if so, is it possible your mother or a teacher might have forced you into right-handedness?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Interesting question. I am right-handed. My brother is a lefty- as was one of our grandfathers. My parents told me that  when I was a toddler, they  set me on the floor with a bunch of objects for me to pick up, as a test of hand preference. They informed me that while my preference was for the right hand,  I was close to being equal in the choices. (60-40???) 

As such, I doubt that my parents or a teacher forced me into right-handedness. After all, they let my brother be a lefty.  One indication of &quot;evenhandedness&quot; is that early on I chose to use my left hand for my fork. After all, the fork is on the left side of the plate. I will pick up a glass or cup with either hand. In soccer, kicks to goal from my left foot were almost as good as kicks from my right foot. Though in baseball or basketball, I did as little as possible with my left hand.

Here is a possibility for the erasure/band handwriting. I was a stutterer, and in 2nd grade went to a therapist for stuttering. Stuttering resumed in junior high, but I finally conquered it by SLOWING DOWN. (Decades later, I have a low tolerance for  service-reps-by-phone who speak too fast. Don&#039;t worry, I tell them to slow down: &quot;I&#039;m not from New York.&quot; )

I wonder if when writing in cursive, my bad handwriting came from my writing to keep up with my thoughts- writing too fast. Also note that as my body matured, I could write faster- which meant a greater ability for my writing to keep up with my thoughts. Which is why I got some handwriting compliments in adulthood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus T. Firefly</p>
<blockquote><p>Gringo,Are you “right” handed and, if so, is it possible your mother or a teacher might have forced you into right-handedness?</p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting question. I am right-handed. My brother is a lefty- as was one of our grandfathers. My parents told me that  when I was a toddler, they  set me on the floor with a bunch of objects for me to pick up, as a test of hand preference. They informed me that while my preference was for the right hand,  I was close to being equal in the choices. (60-40???) </p>
<p>As such, I doubt that my parents or a teacher forced me into right-handedness. After all, they let my brother be a lefty.  One indication of &#8220;evenhandedness&#8221; is that early on I chose to use my left hand for my fork. After all, the fork is on the left side of the plate. I will pick up a glass or cup with either hand. In soccer, kicks to goal from my left foot were almost as good as kicks from my right foot. Though in baseball or basketball, I did as little as possible with my left hand.</p>
<p>Here is a possibility for the erasure/band handwriting. I was a stutterer, and in 2nd grade went to a therapist for stuttering. Stuttering resumed in junior high, but I finally conquered it by SLOWING DOWN. (Decades later, I have a low tolerance for  service-reps-by-phone who speak too fast. Don&#8217;t worry, I tell them to slow down: &#8220;I&#8217;m not from New York.&#8221; )</p>
<p>I wonder if when writing in cursive, my bad handwriting came from my writing to keep up with my thoughts- writing too fast. Also note that as my body matured, I could write faster- which meant a greater ability for my writing to keep up with my thoughts. Which is why I got some handwriting compliments in adulthood.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gringo,

Are you &quot;right&quot; handed and, if so, is it possible your mother or a teacher might have forced you into right-handedness?

I struggled mightily with handwriting in grammar school and my handwriting is no better as an adult. In subsequent years I&#039;ve pieced together a lot of clues that indicate my mother almost certainly forced me into right-handedness and I would have otherwise been a natural lefty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gringo,</p>
<p>Are you &#8220;right&#8221; handed and, if so, is it possible your mother or a teacher might have forced you into right-handedness?</p>
<p>I struggled mightily with handwriting in grammar school and my handwriting is no better as an adult. In subsequent years I&#8217;ve pieced together a lot of clues that indicate my mother almost certainly forced me into right-handedness and I would have otherwise been a natural lefty.</p>
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