David Horowitz – “The revolutionary failures of the Twentieth Century had demonstrated the wisdom of the American founding, and validated its tenets: private property, individual rights, and a limited state.”

Just so. Our schools need to get back to teaching that.

I get the fact that both the Marxists and the Islamists hate Western Civilization. Both of them envy the success of the Jews and the U.S.

Both of them dislike our conservative culture but for different reasons. For the left, we are too religious. For the Islamists we’re not the right religion.

Both share the idea that their particular political and social ideas are superior, and that all non-believers/deniers should be forced to comply with their ideas. Both of them rely a lot on propaganda and brain washing.

Once they’ve gotten rid of Western Civilization, they will find out how different they are and how they cannot co-exist.

The trick is for the West to be prepared to face them down (ala Clint Eastwood) and give them no choice – either co-exist or cease to exist. With the Dems running our government there’s fat chance of that. 🙁

PPS Instapundit has a long list of links to posts about the Hamas attacks and the resultant fall-out (it’s gone beyond back-lash).

Here’s another example in re Leftists in college.

https://instapundit.com/611552/
OCTOBER 15, 2023
EVEN THE REPUBLICAN SQUISHES ARE BAILING ON THEM: Huntsman family, longtime Penn supporters, will halt donations to ‘unrecognizable’ University. “In an email to Magill obtained by The Daily Pennsylvanian, Huntsman — a former University trustee, governor of Utah, and United States ambassador — said that the Huntsman Foundation will ‘close its checkbook’ on future donations to Penn. Huntsman, whose family has donated tens of millions to Penn over the course of three generations, wrote that the University had become ‘almost unrecognizable’ due to administrators’ response to antisemitism.”

https://nypost.com/2023/10/17/broad-coalition-of-us-colleges-condemns-evil-of-hamas/

Yup and Yup. The Left acts, as usual, with no comprehension of the possible secondary outcomes of their actions… Even when they’ve got examples galore, of which AesopFan’s example is but one. Whenever Islam gets the majority in a democracy, the first thing they throw out is the democracy. Note Iraq’s single election. Note the “Arab Spring” of 2011. Note… ad nauseum.

They will be among the first into Islam’s equivalent of boxcars. Which will probably be a wall with a bunch of jihadi standing in front of it with AKs and ARs.

They’re a lot less skittish about killing people than the Nazis were. :-S They won’t be hiding it away in special camps. As Neo has commented, “they revel in it”.

}}} They may be wrong.

“May be”?? LOLZ.

Bullseye!

As for which of the two would win, the Islamist base welcomes death… Whereas the leftist snowflake base thinks nothing is worth dying for…

Thus Islam is likely to come out ahead in that fight.

Only to have to then face the ChiComs… who possess the military technology of the industrialized West along with the ruthlessness of the Islamists…

In such a scenario, the Chicoms would not hesitate to turn Middle Eastern trouble spots into glass parking lots.

I pointed out that socialists had contrived to demonstrate by bloody example what everyone else already knew: Equality and freedom are inherently in conflict. This was really all that socialist efforts had shown, over the dead bodies of millions of people. In talent, intelligence, and physical attributes, individuals were by nature different and unequal; consequently, the attempt to make them equal could only be achieved by restricting — ultimately eliminating — their individual freedom. For the same reason, economic redistribution could be carried out only by force. Socialism was theft.

It was this perspective — conservative in its essence — that had inspired the creators of the American republic. In the Federalist Papers, Madison had defended the American idea of liberty by means of legal checks and balances as a design to thwart the leveling agendas of the Left — “a rage for paper money, for an abolition of debts, for an equal division of property, or for any other improper or wicked project.” The conservatism I had arrived at could be expressed in a single patriotic idea: The revolutionary failures of the Twentieth Century had demonstrated the wisdom of the American founding, and validated its tenets: private property, individual rights, and a limited state. Becoming a conservative turned out, ultimately, to be a way of coming home.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, when he was mayor of Istanbul before becoming president of Turkey, described the strategy: “Democracy is like a tram. You ride it until you arrive at your destination, then you step off.”

How different is he from Western governing elites? Whether it’s Biden or the EU, they get off the democracy tram when they take office, and then the “defense of democracy” just becomes about keeping themselves in power.

Why do they dislike Israel so much, despite seemingly compelling reasons to celebrate it? Per Sotirakopoulos, envy of its success as a mostly capitalist economy – similar to the reason for “the oldest hatred”.

Ahhhh, but not THE core belief.