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		By: Anne		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/16/beware-of-overdiagnosis-of-munchausen-by-proxy/#comment-2703434</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 04:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I also believe that because of the absence of independent outdoor play, a habit which has developed over the past forty years, children have not learned to protect themselves, have become less able to defend themselves, less likely to protest coercion. They are much more easily manipulated, which is what the NOW leadership has wanted from the beginning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also believe that because of the absence of independent outdoor play, a habit which has developed over the past forty years, children have not learned to protect themselves, have become less able to defend themselves, less likely to protest coercion. They are much more easily manipulated, which is what the NOW leadership has wanted from the beginning.</p>
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		By: Anne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 03:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it has become more existent since the most recent wave of feminism. For the last 45 years, hundreds of thousands of women have won total custody of their children in divorce. They are free to do whatever they damn well please, and what they please is to keep their kids tied to them as closely as possible in an effort to prevent a predictable lifetime of loneliness should the children escape from their &quot;liberated mommy&quot;. At the same time, these women have been told repeatedly that they are courageous leaders of the new world and they must train their children to be obedient to any woman in charge of any thing. 
Tie that to a community of highly educated women and you get mothers armed with very sophisticated techniques for taking control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it has become more existent since the most recent wave of feminism. For the last 45 years, hundreds of thousands of women have won total custody of their children in divorce. They are free to do whatever they damn well please, and what they please is to keep their kids tied to them as closely as possible in an effort to prevent a predictable lifetime of loneliness should the children escape from their &#8220;liberated mommy&#8221;. At the same time, these women have been told repeatedly that they are courageous leaders of the new world and they must train their children to be obedient to any woman in charge of any thing.<br />
Tie that to a community of highly educated women and you get mothers armed with very sophisticated techniques for taking control.</p>
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		By: Susanamantha		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/16/beware-of-overdiagnosis-of-munchausen-by-proxy/#comment-2703362</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susanamantha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2023 21:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I saw my &quot;trust your doctor&quot; beliefs taking a dive during my mother&#039;s emergency surgery and the aftermath when her recovery was slow. I could tell the nurses discounted everything I reported on my mom&#039;s condition that I saw deteriorating. As a result, 3 weeks later, she had to have a second, and third emergency surgery that probably wouldn&#039;t have been necessary if they had investigated what I observed. Munchausen by daughter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw my &#8220;trust your doctor&#8221; beliefs taking a dive during my mother&#8217;s emergency surgery and the aftermath when her recovery was slow. I could tell the nurses discounted everything I reported on my mom&#8217;s condition that I saw deteriorating. As a result, 3 weeks later, she had to have a second, and third emergency surgery that probably wouldn&#8217;t have been necessary if they had investigated what I observed. Munchausen by daughter.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/16/beware-of-overdiagnosis-of-munchausen-by-proxy/#comment-2703256</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2023 11:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Most of us have seen moms who strike us as way too hands-on, over protective, and controlling. Doesn&#039;t take much imagination to presume a number of worse cases exist and so skepticism about such reports is not likely.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of us have seen moms who strike us as way too hands-on, over protective, and controlling. Doesn&#8217;t take much imagination to presume a number of worse cases exist and so skepticism about such reports is not likely.</p>
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		By: neo.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2023 03:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cases where parents influence and talk their kids into trans identities are far more common than MBP cases, which however have a different m.o.. I believe it&#039;s an overbroad use of the MBP term to apply it to those cases. Both phenomena are bad, but they are different. The MBP cases begin with the parent manipulating the child &lt;i&gt;physically&lt;/i&gt; to cause a fake physical  illness and interact with the health care system repeatedly and often. The trans-influencing parent manipulates the child &lt;i&gt;psychologically and socially&lt;/i&gt; in order to cause a syndrome that ultimately ends in physical treatment by the health care system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cases where parents influence and talk their kids into trans identities are far more common than MBP cases, which however have a different m.o.. I believe it&#8217;s an overbroad use of the MBP term to apply it to those cases. Both phenomena are bad, but they are different. The MBP cases begin with the parent manipulating the child <i>physically</i> to cause a fake physical  illness and interact with the health care system repeatedly and often. The trans-influencing parent manipulates the child <i>psychologically and socially</i> in order to cause a syndrome that ultimately ends in physical treatment by the health care system.</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/16/beware-of-overdiagnosis-of-munchausen-by-proxy/#comment-2703228</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2023 03:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;“Trust your doctor” had taken a massive hit in the last few.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s been more than a mere few. They&#039;ve been steadily dis-earning trust for at least two decades. Particularly when they don&#039;t fight the government when it gives them shit for providing pain relief to pain-sufferers, just because SOME of them might be addicts.

 Because, you know, &lt;b&gt;innocent people suffering lots of pain&lt;/b&gt; are sooooo much less important than stopping  &lt;b&gt;peeps from getting high&lt;/b&gt;. :-/

Not quite sure how &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; slots into the Hippocratic Oath...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>“Trust your doctor” had taken a massive hit in the last few.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s been more than a mere few. They&#8217;ve been steadily dis-earning trust for at least two decades. Particularly when they don&#8217;t fight the government when it gives them shit for providing pain relief to pain-sufferers, just because SOME of them might be addicts.</p>
<p> Because, you know, <b>innocent people suffering lots of pain</b> are sooooo much less important than stopping  <b>peeps from getting high</b>. :-/</p>
<p>Not quite sure how <i>that</i> slots into the Hippocratic Oath&#8230;</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/16/beware-of-overdiagnosis-of-munchausen-by-proxy/#comment-2703227</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2023 03:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see dumb people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see dumb people.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/16/beware-of-overdiagnosis-of-munchausen-by-proxy/#comment-2703222</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2023 02:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the developments on this topic is that the founder of what is called &quot;child abuse pediatrics&quot; refused to get board certified because he objected to the way his defining work was being perverted.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2023/10/15/founding-father-of-child-abuse-pediatrics-calls-johns-hopkins-all-childrens-defendants-conspirators-in-unlawful-acts-n1735266]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the developments on this topic is that the founder of what is called &#8220;child abuse pediatrics&#8221; refused to get board certified because he objected to the way his defining work was being perverted.</p>
<p><a href="https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2023/10/15/founding-father-of-child-abuse-pediatrics-calls-johns-hopkins-all-childrens-defendants-conspirators-in-unlawful-acts-n1735266" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2023/10/15/founding-father-of-child-abuse-pediatrics-calls-johns-hopkins-all-childrens-defendants-conspirators-in-unlawful-acts-n1735266</a></p>
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		By: Anne		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/16/beware-of-overdiagnosis-of-munchausen-by-proxy/#comment-2703221</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2023 02:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In Seattle, it is interesting to note that the parents of a young &quot;trans&quot; child frequently move up in their jobs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Seattle, it is interesting to note that the parents of a young &#8220;trans&#8221; child frequently move up in their jobs.</p>
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		By: sonny wayz		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/16/beware-of-overdiagnosis-of-munchausen-by-proxy/#comment-2703212</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sonny wayz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2023 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Most transgender cases in young children are probably really cases of Munchausen-by-Proxy&lt;/i&gt;

Also known as Transhausen-by-Proxy.  Sorry, can&#039;t credit whoever coined the term.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Most transgender cases in young children are probably really cases of Munchausen-by-Proxy</i></p>
<p>Also known as Transhausen-by-Proxy.  Sorry, can&#8217;t credit whoever coined the term.</p>
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