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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art D: &quot;his crew committed real crimes.&quot;  Yes.  As so many gov&#039;ts do, often to a bigger extent.
Including Felt at the FBI illegally leaking secret stuff to get Nixon.  As you say, &quot;the problem ...  is that no one in the FBI or among the Obama and Biden crew has faced any accountability for worse crimes.&quot;

Nor under Bush43 , nor Clinton, nor Bush41, nor Reagan (not much).

In thinking about how to make the gov&#039;t better, my current best idea is to have an FBI group primarily going after Dems, and another one primarily going after Reps, with both going after all gov&#039;t employees (especially FBI &#038; CIA etc).  We need the laws to apply to both Reps &#038; Dems, pretty equally.

Funny sad at how honest, yet inept and naive, was Jimmy Carter.  The recent Israel - Hamas flare up is partly because the dirty Shah was replaced by a far worse Ayatollah Khomeini.  Selective moral outrage is lousy (outrageous!), all too often.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art D: &#8220;his crew committed real crimes.&#8221;  Yes.  As so many gov&#8217;ts do, often to a bigger extent.<br />
Including Felt at the FBI illegally leaking secret stuff to get Nixon.  As you say, &#8220;the problem &#8230;  is that no one in the FBI or among the Obama and Biden crew has faced any accountability for worse crimes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nor under Bush43 , nor Clinton, nor Bush41, nor Reagan (not much).</p>
<p>In thinking about how to make the gov&#8217;t better, my current best idea is to have an FBI group primarily going after Dems, and another one primarily going after Reps, with both going after all gov&#8217;t employees (especially FBI &amp; CIA etc).  We need the laws to apply to both Reps &amp; Dems, pretty equally.</p>
<p>Funny sad at how honest, yet inept and naive, was Jimmy Carter.  The recent Israel &#8211; Hamas flare up is partly because the dirty Shah was replaced by a far worse Ayatollah Khomeini.  Selective moral outrage is lousy (outrageous!), all too often.</p>
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		By: Dick Illyes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Illyes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 17:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All Nixon&#039;s sins and more were routine for the Democrats.  Their operatives were regarded as heroes.  

After I read Roger Stone&#039;s book I realized how much more was in play with the FBI and CIA lifers.  It is worth reading.  Nixon was manipulated in ways I had not understood.  

Only Nixon could go to China, and Nixon did go to China.  I was constantly appreciative during his terms at his desire to actually address big problems with big solutions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Nixon&#8217;s sins and more were routine for the Democrats.  Their operatives were regarded as heroes.  </p>
<p>After I read Roger Stone&#8217;s book I realized how much more was in play with the FBI and CIA lifers.  It is worth reading.  Nixon was manipulated in ways I had not understood.  </p>
<p>Only Nixon could go to China, and Nixon did go to China.  I was constantly appreciative during his terms at his desire to actually address big problems with big solutions.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/07/christopher-rufo-looks-at-nixon/#comment-2701992</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 14:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[they were sloppy its what the dems had done for generations, that was their crime,
yes a bond lawyer isn&#039;t the best choice for atty general, but neither is a mouthpiece for oxycontin (Holder) a corrupt Dade county prosecutor, (Reno) et al]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they were sloppy its what the dems had done for generations, that was their crime,<br />
yes a bond lawyer isn&#8217;t the best choice for atty general, but neither is a mouthpiece for oxycontin (Holder) a corrupt Dade county prosecutor, (Reno) et al</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 14:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; wage and price controls, going off the gold standard&lt;/i&gt;
==
All wage and price controls are a mistake except those pertaining to natural monopolies.  However, we did not and do not need a currency peg.  We needed and we need prudent monetary policy, which Arthur Burns and his crew were not giving us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> wage and price controls, going off the gold standard</i><br />
==<br />
All wage and price controls are a mistake except those pertaining to natural monopolies.  However, we did not and do not need a currency peg.  We needed and we need prudent monetary policy, which Arthur Burns and his crew were not giving us.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/07/christopher-rufo-looks-at-nixon/#comment-2701989</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 14:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, not buying.  The FBI didn&#039;t manipulate Nixon into hiring John Mitchell, John Ehrlichman, and HR Haldeman and it didn&#039;t manipulate these three into hiring rogues like Gordon Liddy, Howard Hunt, John Dean, and the young Charles Colson.   Liddy, Dean, and his crew committed real crimes.  The problem we have faced in the last dozen years is that no one in the FBI or among the Obama and Biden crew has faced any accountability for worse crimes.  Neither was J. Edgar Hoover held accountable for the FBI&#039;s abuses prior to his death in 1972.
==
Shortly before Mark Felt was &#039;exposed&#039; as &#039;Deep Throat&#039;, there was published a analysis of Woodward and Bernstein&#039;s account of their dealings with &#039;Deep Throat&#039; demonstrating the mechanics of it (e.g. the pen and ink notations on newspapers delivered to the vestibules of their respective buildings) simply did not work.  It was a fabricated account.  Felt was one of a number of their sources and &#039;Deep Throat&#039; was a composite.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, not buying.  The FBI didn&#8217;t manipulate Nixon into hiring John Mitchell, John Ehrlichman, and HR Haldeman and it didn&#8217;t manipulate these three into hiring rogues like Gordon Liddy, Howard Hunt, John Dean, and the young Charles Colson.   Liddy, Dean, and his crew committed real crimes.  The problem we have faced in the last dozen years is that no one in the FBI or among the Obama and Biden crew has faced any accountability for worse crimes.  Neither was J. Edgar Hoover held accountable for the FBI&#8217;s abuses prior to his death in 1972.<br />
==<br />
Shortly before Mark Felt was &#8216;exposed&#8217; as &#8216;Deep Throat&#8217;, there was published a analysis of Woodward and Bernstein&#8217;s account of their dealings with &#8216;Deep Throat&#8217; demonstrating the mechanics of it (e.g. the pen and ink notations on newspapers delivered to the vestibules of their respective buildings) simply did not work.  It was a fabricated account.  Felt was one of a number of their sources and &#8216;Deep Throat&#8217; was a composite.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/07/christopher-rufo-looks-at-nixon/#comment-2701984</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 12:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[nixon made some bad policy mistakes notably in economics, wage and price controls, going off the gold standard, then again the tools were scarce then,

but the left still burned for revealing Alger Hiss, and also the embrace with China,
in the early part of the terrors,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nixon made some bad policy mistakes notably in economics, wage and price controls, going off the gold standard, then again the tools were scarce then,</p>
<p>but the left still burned for revealing Alger Hiss, and also the embrace with China,<br />
in the early part of the terrors,</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 12:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was not happy at the time Ford pardoned Nixon (and my only Dem vote for President went to Jimmy Carter) - but now I realize it was the FBI who got rid of Nixon.  Tho the FBI is a fiction, it doesn&#039;t exist.
The deep throat person, who did exist, was Mark Felt, then #2 under Hoover who finally died, and was passed over by Nixon as head. [William Mark Felt Sr. ]

We need 3 FBIs: one Republican controlled against Dems, one Democrat controlled against Reps, and one (small? large?) that is non-political.

Similarly, it wasn&#039;t the FBI lying to the FISA courts, it was certain people.  Who remain essentially unpunished, as so many Dem deep state criminals do.

We also need a firing offense allowing &quot;preponderance of evidence&quot; against US gov&#039;t officials, so far more are fired for illegal actions that they wouldn&#039;t be convicted for.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was not happy at the time Ford pardoned Nixon (and my only Dem vote for President went to Jimmy Carter) &#8211; but now I realize it was the FBI who got rid of Nixon.  Tho the FBI is a fiction, it doesn&#8217;t exist.<br />
The deep throat person, who did exist, was Mark Felt, then #2 under Hoover who finally died, and was passed over by Nixon as head. [William Mark Felt Sr. ]</p>
<p>We need 3 FBIs: one Republican controlled against Dems, one Democrat controlled against Reps, and one (small? large?) that is non-political.</p>
<p>Similarly, it wasn&#8217;t the FBI lying to the FISA courts, it was certain people.  Who remain essentially unpunished, as so many Dem deep state criminals do.</p>
<p>We also need a firing offense allowing &#8220;preponderance of evidence&#8221; against US gov&#8217;t officials, so far more are fired for illegal actions that they wouldn&#8217;t be convicted for.</p>
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		By: Dick Illyes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/07/christopher-rufo-looks-at-nixon/#comment-2701925</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Illyes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2023 20:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nixon was taken out by the Swamp.  He was the best President since Eisenhower as his incredible second election landslide  showed.  I was in my forties during his terms and was a total political junky.  He was great.

The recent book by Roger Stone: The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ has a lot about the various people in the FBI and CIA who decided Nixon had to go and created a convoluted situation that he ultimately got drawn into and destroyed by.

I hope I live long enough to see the whole thing blow up.  I think it will.  Lots of participants are aging out.  Kennedy running will help.  

The level of disgust with the Uniparty is something I never believed would happen, but it is.   The skeptical group that follows Scott Adams, Tucker Carlson, Russell Brand, et al. is growing exponentially, and the guardians of the Uniparty are finally aging out.  

The Cancellations are backfiring.  The vaccines are the new asbestos.  The Twitter Files happened.  DeSantis changed Florida registrations from Democrat to hugely Republican, showing what can happen when Conservative ideas are actually implemented.

The best example in our history of how Swampians may look in ten years is the revulsion toward the Planter Class after the Civil War.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nixon was taken out by the Swamp.  He was the best President since Eisenhower as his incredible second election landslide  showed.  I was in my forties during his terms and was a total political junky.  He was great.</p>
<p>The recent book by Roger Stone: The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ has a lot about the various people in the FBI and CIA who decided Nixon had to go and created a convoluted situation that he ultimately got drawn into and destroyed by.</p>
<p>I hope I live long enough to see the whole thing blow up.  I think it will.  Lots of participants are aging out.  Kennedy running will help.  </p>
<p>The level of disgust with the Uniparty is something I never believed would happen, but it is.   The skeptical group that follows Scott Adams, Tucker Carlson, Russell Brand, et al. is growing exponentially, and the guardians of the Uniparty are finally aging out.  </p>
<p>The Cancellations are backfiring.  The vaccines are the new asbestos.  The Twitter Files happened.  DeSantis changed Florida registrations from Democrat to hugely Republican, showing what can happen when Conservative ideas are actually implemented.</p>
<p>The best example in our history of how Swampians may look in ten years is the revulsion toward the Planter Class after the Civil War.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2023 12:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoff Shepard has written several books about the Nixon ouster. He was a Lawyer in the administration.
https://shepardonwatergate.com/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff Shepard has written several books about the Nixon ouster. He was a Lawyer in the administration.<br />
<a href="https://shepardonwatergate.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://shepardonwatergate.com/</a></p>
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		By: Aggie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2023 00:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was a kid in High School working a grocery store night shift when Nixon resigned.  It was outside of Boston, MA, the only state that didn&#039;t vote for him, so one can imagine the scene.  Quite a few co-workers were celebrating his departure, some with particularly choice words involving Nixon as a criminal.

But at this point, I was already turning conservative, having seen the fruits of busing in person, at school, every day, while witnessing the preening self-indulgence of the nitwits that organized it - but couldn&#039;t be bothered to evaluate the results of their efforts.  At the grocery, I would receive a daily learning experience on the eating habits of food stamp recipients, to compare to my own in a house where father was unemployed and struggling hard to find work, with mother working as a teacher.  Rough times, but not catastrophic.  The welfare queens were eating a lot better than we were, though.

But for the life of me, I couldn&#039;t see that Nixon was a bad President, nor that he had done much more than to defend his people, unadvisedly.  He made a serious mistake and was hung out and dressed by the media, with top coaching from the FBI, as we now know.   Nice to see that history can be even-handed sometimes. I&#039;ll watch it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a kid in High School working a grocery store night shift when Nixon resigned.  It was outside of Boston, MA, the only state that didn&#8217;t vote for him, so one can imagine the scene.  Quite a few co-workers were celebrating his departure, some with particularly choice words involving Nixon as a criminal.</p>
<p>But at this point, I was already turning conservative, having seen the fruits of busing in person, at school, every day, while witnessing the preening self-indulgence of the nitwits that organized it &#8211; but couldn&#8217;t be bothered to evaluate the results of their efforts.  At the grocery, I would receive a daily learning experience on the eating habits of food stamp recipients, to compare to my own in a house where father was unemployed and struggling hard to find work, with mother working as a teacher.  Rough times, but not catastrophic.  The welfare queens were eating a lot better than we were, though.</p>
<p>But for the life of me, I couldn&#8217;t see that Nixon was a bad President, nor that he had done much more than to defend his people, unadvisedly.  He made a serious mistake and was hung out and dressed by the media, with top coaching from the FBI, as we now know.   Nice to see that history can be even-handed sometimes. I&#8217;ll watch it.</p>
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