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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/trumps-trial-begins-in-new-york/#comment-2700972</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 18:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CC<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> is tired of other people actually noticing the Democrat-Left behaviour.

Inconvenient, to CC<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> that behaviour only can be done to The Great Orange Whale, to do otherwise would be beyond the pale.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC™ is tired of other people actually noticing the Democrat-Left behaviour.</p>
<p>Inconvenient, to CC™ that behaviour only can be done to The Great Orange Whale, to do otherwise would be beyond the pale.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/trumps-trial-begins-in-new-york/#comment-2700965</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 17:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[they did it to mcdonnell, to delay, to conrad black, to governor perry, to ted stevens, you want me to continue rattling names off

before perkins and coie funded the steele dossier, it commandeered the ethics complaint possible, which was only necessary in the first place, because the fbi had shepherded the fraudulent stevens indictment,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they did it to mcdonnell, to delay, to conrad black, to governor perry, to ted stevens, you want me to continue rattling names off</p>
<p>before perkins and coie funded the steele dossier, it commandeered the ethics complaint possible, which was only necessary in the first place, because the fbi had shepherded the fraudulent stevens indictment,</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/trumps-trial-begins-in-new-york/#comment-2700964</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 17:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bauxite, so defend Trump on a thread about the injustice of this political prosecution, and criticize him to your heart&#039;s content when the topic is whether he ought to be the Republican nominee.

They have in fact thrown people in jail, often for long terms, for doing nothing much at all on Jan. 6, 2021, including some people who weren&#039;t even there. These people were not braggart NYC real estate investors. Thinking that Trump is uniquely vulnerable and &quot;they&quot; can&#039;t nail other people is quite naive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bauxite, so defend Trump on a thread about the injustice of this political prosecution, and criticize him to your heart&#8217;s content when the topic is whether he ought to be the Republican nominee.</p>
<p>They have in fact thrown people in jail, often for long terms, for doing nothing much at all on Jan. 6, 2021, including some people who weren&#8217;t even there. These people were not braggart NYC real estate investors. Thinking that Trump is uniquely vulnerable and &#8220;they&#8221; can&#8217;t nail other people is quite naive.</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/trumps-trial-begins-in-new-york/#comment-2700962</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 17:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Basically, would I defend Trump because he is a victim of injustice?  Absolutely! Would I defend Trump&#039;s personal or business behaviors? No thanks. Would I make him the leader of the GOP and the public face of right-of-center Americans?  Again, hard pass.  Am I willing to kiss away the White House for another four years because of Trump is the victim of lawfare?  No way. 

And, man, I&#039;m getting tired of the whole &quot;they&#039;ll do this to anyone&quot; routine. Democrats wouldn&#039;t have even a fraction of the raw material to exploit against any of the other contenders. (Maybe pick someone who didn&#039;t lie his rear end off in business disclosures, doesn&#039;t jerk around with federal prosecutors when they ask for classified material to be returned, doesn&#039;t put himself in a position where he has to pay off multiple porn stars, doesn&#039;t burn most of his former employees and generally doesn&#039;t behave like a spoiled teenager. It&#039;s not that hard, really.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically, would I defend Trump because he is a victim of injustice?  Absolutely! Would I defend Trump&#8217;s personal or business behaviors? No thanks. Would I make him the leader of the GOP and the public face of right-of-center Americans?  Again, hard pass.  Am I willing to kiss away the White House for another four years because of Trump is the victim of lawfare?  No way. </p>
<p>And, man, I&#8217;m getting tired of the whole &#8220;they&#8217;ll do this to anyone&#8221; routine. Democrats wouldn&#8217;t have even a fraction of the raw material to exploit against any of the other contenders. (Maybe pick someone who didn&#8217;t lie his rear end off in business disclosures, doesn&#8217;t jerk around with federal prosecutors when they ask for classified material to be returned, doesn&#8217;t put himself in a position where he has to pay off multiple porn stars, doesn&#8217;t burn most of his former employees and generally doesn&#8217;t behave like a spoiled teenager. It&#8217;s not that hard, really.)</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/trumps-trial-begins-in-new-york/#comment-2700961</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 17:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CC<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> is getting roasted so he pulled the &lt;b&gt;fire alarm.&lt;/b&gt;  Sad.

CC<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> can&#039;t conceive that the same process used against his Great Orange Whale can and will be used against any and all Republicans.  But CC<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> can&#039;t acknowledge that, OMB!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC™ is getting roasted so he pulled the <b>fire alarm.</b>  Sad.</p>
<p>CC™ can&#8217;t conceive that the same process used against his Great Orange Whale can and will be used against any and all Republicans.  But CC™ can&#8217;t acknowledge that, OMB!</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 17:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate - You must have missed this part of my prior comment: 

&quot;Letisha James is a disgrace. This action would never be brought against anyone other than Donald Trump. It’s clearly political retaliation. It is destructive to the justice system and the whole concept of equal justice. Dershowitz is absolutely correct.&quot;

Other than that, sure, I&#039;m full of &quot;hear no evil, see no evil.&quot; 

This is not a &quot;binary choice.&quot; Just because James and the judge are wrong doesn&#039;t mean that Trump is right. I struggle to understand why that is such a difficult concept.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate &#8211; You must have missed this part of my prior comment: </p>
<p>&#8220;Letisha James is a disgrace. This action would never be brought against anyone other than Donald Trump. It’s clearly political retaliation. It is destructive to the justice system and the whole concept of equal justice. Dershowitz is absolutely correct.&#8221;</p>
<p>Other than that, sure, I&#8217;m full of &#8220;hear no evil, see no evil.&#8221; </p>
<p>This is not a &#8220;binary choice.&#8221; Just because James and the judge are wrong doesn&#8217;t mean that Trump is right. I struggle to understand why that is such a difficult concept.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/trumps-trial-begins-in-new-york/#comment-2700958</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 16:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I meant &quot;linked&quot; WSJ editorial.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant &#8220;linked&#8221; WSJ editorial.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/trumps-trial-begins-in-new-york/#comment-2700957</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 16:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of hear no evil, see no evil, from the liked WSJ editorial:&lt;blockquote&gt;Yet Mr. Trump is right that Ms. James is a partisan Democrat who campaigned on going after him. The night she won the AG’s race in November 2018, she proclaimed: “I will be shining a bright light into every dark corner of his real estate dealings.” This is an abuse of prosecutorial power, targeting a person and then hunting for something to charge him with.

There is also cause to wonder about Judge Engoron’s sweeping judgment when there are no clear victims. The judge’s pretrial ruling last week would essentially strip Mr. Trump of control over assets in New York, including Trump Tower. Ms. James wants to ban him from doing business in New York. It’s hard to believe anyone not named Trump, and not so loathed by Democrats, would be facing such a sanction.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of hear no evil, see no evil, from the liked WSJ editorial:</p>
<blockquote><p>Yet Mr. Trump is right that Ms. James is a partisan Democrat who campaigned on going after him. The night she won the AG’s race in November 2018, she proclaimed: “I will be shining a bright light into every dark corner of his real estate dealings.” This is an abuse of prosecutorial power, targeting a person and then hunting for something to charge him with.</p>
<p>There is also cause to wonder about Judge Engoron’s sweeping judgment when there are no clear victims. The judge’s pretrial ruling last week would essentially strip Mr. Trump of control over assets in New York, including Trump Tower. Ms. James wants to ban him from doing business in New York. It’s hard to believe anyone not named Trump, and not so loathed by Democrats, would be facing such a sanction.</p></blockquote>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/trumps-trial-begins-in-new-york/#comment-2700956</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 16:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate - I am not &quot;inclined to accept any accusations against Trump at face value.&quot; I look at the facts and the nature of the accusation. 

When your penthouse is 10k square feet, and you represent it as 30k square feet, that&#039;s not a leftist conspiracy. When the Scottish government gave you permission to build 500 houses, and you list on the disclosure that they permitted 2000, that&#039;s not Letisha James&#039; fault.  And on the square footage, Trump didn&#039;t argue that his penthouse was actually 30k square feet or that he hadn&#039;t represented that it was 30k square feet, he argued that determining square footage is a &quot;subjective process that can lead to lead to different results.&quot;  

Some people around here seem to think that &quot;TDS&quot; is some kind of magic incantation that makes facts go away.  It isn&#039;t. It&#039;s a rationalization that gives Trumpers intellectual permission to ignore the inconvenient facts.

The defenses of Trump are starting to sound like the defenses of the socialist Rep who pulled the fire alarm the other day  - i.e., &quot;Our guy is innocent because . . . Republicans are bad.&quot; And down, down we go.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate &#8211; I am not &#8220;inclined to accept any accusations against Trump at face value.&#8221; I look at the facts and the nature of the accusation. </p>
<p>When your penthouse is 10k square feet, and you represent it as 30k square feet, that&#8217;s not a leftist conspiracy. When the Scottish government gave you permission to build 500 houses, and you list on the disclosure that they permitted 2000, that&#8217;s not Letisha James&#8217; fault.  And on the square footage, Trump didn&#8217;t argue that his penthouse was actually 30k square feet or that he hadn&#8217;t represented that it was 30k square feet, he argued that determining square footage is a &#8220;subjective process that can lead to lead to different results.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Some people around here seem to think that &#8220;TDS&#8221; is some kind of magic incantation that makes facts go away.  It isn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s a rationalization that gives Trumpers intellectual permission to ignore the inconvenient facts.</p>
<p>The defenses of Trump are starting to sound like the defenses of the socialist Rep who pulled the fire alarm the other day  &#8211; i.e., &#8220;Our guy is innocent because . . . Republicans are bad.&#8221; And down, down we go.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/trumps-trial-begins-in-new-york/#comment-2700955</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 16:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Old joke, in constitutional republics they prosecute crimes, in banana republics they prosecute men.  Those New York democrats are actually banana republicans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old joke, in constitutional republics they prosecute crimes, in banana republics they prosecute men.  Those New York democrats are actually banana republicans.</p>
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