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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/open-thread-10-2-23/#comment-2700971</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 18:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I understand it&#039;s not a priority in conservative circles to wonder WTF happened to the Left. But, as an ex-leftist, I do.

Exactly how did the Left swivel away from the concerns of the (mostly) genuinely oppressed to this weird boutique world of mix&#039;n&#039;match identities, bizarrely ranked?&quot;

I&#039;ve concluded the Elites have beautifully coopted the Old-New-Left by way of the Social Justice Movement&#039;s identity politics. Freddie de Boers is on the case:
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&lt;i&gt;I’m a Marxist. Though I’m a fairly unorthodox one at this point, I would still love to see a Marxist revolution. You know, an international movement of workers rising up and taking control of political and economic systems, and distributing resources and labor based on need, while organized under the principle of shared ownership of the productive apparatus of society. 

&lt;b&gt;But with American progressivism focused on identity politics, not class interests, forever wandering from the righteous to the ridiculous, this appears to be an unrealistic dream.&lt;/b&gt;

--&quot;How Elites Ate the Social Justice Movement&quot;
https://www.thefp.com/p/how-elites-ate-the-social-justice&lt;/i&gt;
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Back in the 60s/70s the Left was perpetually on guard against being coopted by the Establishment to the point of paranoia. 

Now the Left welcomes being coopted. It&#039;s not a simple betrayal. Since the Left took over the academic high ground, the Elites have been indoctrinated into the Left and it became a class distinction. (Witness the BBC.)

And now the Elites have eaten the Left. 

Kinda brilliant in its way .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand it&#8217;s not a priority in conservative circles to wonder WTF happened to the Left. But, as an ex-leftist, I do.</p>
<p>Exactly how did the Left swivel away from the concerns of the (mostly) genuinely oppressed to this weird boutique world of mix&#8217;n&#8217;match identities, bizarrely ranked?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve concluded the Elites have beautifully coopted the Old-New-Left by way of the Social Justice Movement&#8217;s identity politics. Freddie de Boers is on the case:<br />
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<p><i>I’m a Marxist. Though I’m a fairly unorthodox one at this point, I would still love to see a Marxist revolution. You know, an international movement of workers rising up and taking control of political and economic systems, and distributing resources and labor based on need, while organized under the principle of shared ownership of the productive apparatus of society. </p>
<p><b>But with American progressivism focused on identity politics, not class interests, forever wandering from the righteous to the ridiculous, this appears to be an unrealistic dream.</b></p>
<p>&#8211;&#8220;How Elites Ate the Social Justice Movement&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.thefp.com/p/how-elites-ate-the-social-justice" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thefp.com/p/how-elites-ate-the-social-justice</a></i><br />
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<p>Back in the 60s/70s the Left was perpetually on guard against being coopted by the Establishment to the point of paranoia. </p>
<p>Now the Left welcomes being coopted. It&#8217;s not a simple betrayal. Since the Left took over the academic high ground, the Elites have been indoctrinated into the Left and it became a class distinction. (Witness the BBC.)</p>
<p>And now the Elites have eaten the Left. </p>
<p>Kinda brilliant in its way .</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 11:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You often see people compare the U.S. to Rome and worry that we, like Rome, will and are falling, and when you see something like this, you think that they definitely are right to worry.

 


See  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4IDRK4fcpk]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You often see people compare the U.S. to Rome and worry that we, like Rome, will and are falling, and when you see something like this, you think that they definitely are right to worry.</p>
<p>See  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4IDRK4fcpk" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4IDRK4fcpk</a></p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 03:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Karma trumps dogma:

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.zerohedge.com/political/philadelphia-journalist-who-mocked-concern-over-violent-crime-democrat-cities-shot-dead&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Philadelphia Journalist Who Mocked Concern Over Violent Crime In Democrat Cities Shot Dead In Home&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Experience keeps a dear school...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karma trumps dogma:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/philadelphia-journalist-who-mocked-concern-over-violent-crime-democrat-cities-shot-dead" rel="nofollow ugc"><b>Philadelphia Journalist Who Mocked Concern Over Violent Crime In Democrat Cities Shot Dead In Home</b></a></p>
<p>Experience keeps a dear school&#8230;</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/open-thread-10-2-23/#comment-2700905</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 02:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t listened to General Flynn before and it&#039;s an interesting interview, though I wish it had been edited. The original question-- why was Flynn considered the most dangerous man in America by B. Obama?

At around minute 50 you get the answer why so many of us continue to support President Trump. He&#039;s put everything on the line for America. He truly loves America.

He&#039;s seeing the increasing pace of globalization and the left&#039;s efforts in this country to turn the system to permanent advantage. The law has been so perverted, but I don&#039;t think the Supreme Court has the stomach to even try and set it right. They already know they and their families will be living in protective custody if they do.

This dovetails with another issue about the WHO. New rules are going to allow the left to abrogate any responsibility for the next Biological Terror weapon released for their use. Our government has ceded power to them that will allow them to hide behind.


&lt;b&gt;&quot;General Michael Flynn &#124; PBD Podcast &#124; Ep. 300&quot;&lt;/b&gt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJwNE4YQFcg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t listened to General Flynn before and it&#8217;s an interesting interview, though I wish it had been edited. The original question&#8211; why was Flynn considered the most dangerous man in America by B. Obama?</p>
<p>At around minute 50 you get the answer why so many of us continue to support President Trump. He&#8217;s put everything on the line for America. He truly loves America.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s seeing the increasing pace of globalization and the left&#8217;s efforts in this country to turn the system to permanent advantage. The law has been so perverted, but I don&#8217;t think the Supreme Court has the stomach to even try and set it right. They already know they and their families will be living in protective custody if they do.</p>
<p>This dovetails with another issue about the WHO. New rules are going to allow the left to abrogate any responsibility for the next Biological Terror weapon released for their use. Our government has ceded power to them that will allow them to hide behind.</p>
<p><b>&#8220;General Michael Flynn | PBD Podcast | Ep. 300&#8221;</b><br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJwNE4YQFcg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJwNE4YQFcg</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/open-thread-10-2-23/#comment-2700890</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 01:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Anchorage

Megan, JFM:

I am reminded of Michelle Shocked&#039;s lovely 80s folkie hit, &quot;Anchorage.&quot; Naturally I tried to link it. 

But there was no YouTube link. Shocked was a leftie, turned Christian. Back in 2013 she mentioned her gay-skeptical congregants and she got cancelled ... hard. 

Now I can&#039;t find Michelle&#039;s &quot;Anchorage&quot; anywhere. 
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&lt;i&gt;Hey girl, it&#039;s about time you wrote
It&#039;s been over two years, you know, my old friend
Take me back to the days of the *** and the all-night rock&#039;n&#039;rollin&#039;.
Hey Chelle, we was wild then.

Hey Chelle, you know it&#039;s kinda funny
Texas always seemed so big
But you know you&#039;re in the largest state in the union
When you&#039;re anchored down in Anchorage.

--Michelle Shocked, &quot;Anchorage&quot;&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Anchorage</p>
<p>Megan, JFM:</p>
<p>I am reminded of Michelle Shocked&#8217;s lovely 80s folkie hit, &#8220;Anchorage.&#8221; Naturally I tried to link it. </p>
<p>But there was no YouTube link. Shocked was a leftie, turned Christian. Back in 2013 she mentioned her gay-skeptical congregants and she got cancelled &#8230; hard. </p>
<p>Now I can&#8217;t find Michelle&#8217;s &#8220;Anchorage&#8221; anywhere.<br />
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<p><i>Hey girl, it&#8217;s about time you wrote<br />
It&#8217;s been over two years, you know, my old friend<br />
Take me back to the days of the *** and the all-night rock&#8217;n&#8217;rollin&#8217;.<br />
Hey Chelle, we was wild then.</p>
<p>Hey Chelle, you know it&#8217;s kinda funny<br />
Texas always seemed so big<br />
But you know you&#8217;re in the largest state in the union<br />
When you&#8217;re anchored down in Anchorage.</p>
<p>&#8211;Michelle Shocked, &#8220;Anchorage&#8221;</i></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/open-thread-10-2-23/#comment-2700878</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2023 23:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the literary realm there is Ray Bradbury&#039;s &quot;Dandelion Wine&quot;:
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&lt;i&gt;It was a quiet morning, the town covered over with darkness and at ease in bed. Summer gathered in the weather, the wind  had the proper touch, the breathing of the world was long and warm and slow. &lt;b&gt;You had only to rise, lean from your window, and know that this indeed was the first real time of freedom and living, this was the first morning of summer.&lt;/b&gt;

--Ray Bradbury, &quot;Dandelion Wine&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
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I never got over Ray Bradbury.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the literary realm there is Ray Bradbury&#8217;s &#8220;Dandelion Wine&#8221;:<br />
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<p><i>It was a quiet morning, the town covered over with darkness and at ease in bed. Summer gathered in the weather, the wind  had the proper touch, the breathing of the world was long and warm and slow. <b>You had only to rise, lean from your window, and know that this indeed was the first real time of freedom and living, this was the first morning of summer.</b></p>
<p>&#8211;Ray Bradbury, &#8220;Dandelion Wine&#8221;</i><br />
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<p>I never got over Ray Bradbury.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/open-thread-10-2-23/#comment-2700876</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2023 23:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;For a kid in a Kansas elementary school, that summer break seemed to stretch to darn near forever.&lt;/i&gt;

Roll-aid:

I can get some of that back by listening to Vince Guaraldi&#039;s jazz piano for the &quot;Peanuts&quot; specials. Or better yet George Winston&#039;s cover:

--George Winston, &quot;Peanuts Theme Song&quot;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r547zEAGSQk]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>For a kid in a Kansas elementary school, that summer break seemed to stretch to darn near forever.</i></p>
<p>Roll-aid:</p>
<p>I can get some of that back by listening to Vince Guaraldi&#8217;s jazz piano for the &#8220;Peanuts&#8221; specials. Or better yet George Winston&#8217;s cover:</p>
<p>&#8211;George Winston, &#8220;Peanuts Theme Song&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r547zEAGSQk" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r547zEAGSQk</a></p>
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		By: JFM		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/open-thread-10-2-23/#comment-2700862</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2023 21:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Megan. No snow in Anchorage yet, but there should be snow on the ground by Halloween. I went to UAF.  I remember it seemed that the leaves turned yellow one week, fell the next week and snowed the week after that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megan. No snow in Anchorage yet, but there should be snow on the ground by Halloween. I went to UAF.  I remember it seemed that the leaves turned yellow one week, fell the next week and snowed the week after that.</p>
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		By: cb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/open-thread-10-2-23/#comment-2700829</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2023 19:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[New Philly car dealership has 60% of its cars stolen within a week of opening.  (It&#039;s only going to get worse.)  

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4186432/posts]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Philly car dealership has 60% of its cars stolen within a week of opening.  (It&#8217;s only going to get worse.)  </p>
<p><a href="https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4186432/posts" rel="nofollow ugc">https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4186432/posts</a></p>
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		By: cb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/10/02/open-thread-10-2-23/#comment-2700825</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2023 19:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine suggests: &quot; Perhaps bricks, sticks, and stones are next&quot;.    Indeed, especially these favorite &#039;sticks&#039;:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunchaku]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine suggests: &#8221; Perhaps bricks, sticks, and stones are next&#8221;.    Indeed, especially these favorite &#8216;sticks&#8217;:</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunchaku" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunchaku</a></p>
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