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		By: Xylourgos		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/09/27/open-thread-9-27-23/#comment-2700332</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2023 06:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link to the Feldafing DP camp, Art. I lived several years very close to Feldafing without realizing it had been a major DP Camp. I was aware that after the evacuation of Dachau KZ in the Spring of 1945, prior to the US liberation of the camp, prisoners were forced on a death march thru Starnberg and beyond. Perhaps, when they could go on no more, they stopped at Feldafing which later became site of the exclusively Jewish DP Camp. The original route planned was to travel the east side of Lake Starnberg to Wolfratshausen and then on to Austria but perhaps a change of plans was made for the route as Feldafing is situated on the west shore of Lake Starnberg.

It is of cold comfort to those who perished along the way that Feldafing is located in an area of outstanding natural beauty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link to the Feldafing DP camp, Art. I lived several years very close to Feldafing without realizing it had been a major DP Camp. I was aware that after the evacuation of Dachau KZ in the Spring of 1945, prior to the US liberation of the camp, prisoners were forced on a death march thru Starnberg and beyond. Perhaps, when they could go on no more, they stopped at Feldafing which later became site of the exclusively Jewish DP Camp. The original route planned was to travel the east side of Lake Starnberg to Wolfratshausen and then on to Austria but perhaps a change of plans was made for the route as Feldafing is situated on the west shore of Lake Starnberg.</p>
<p>It is of cold comfort to those who perished along the way that Feldafing is located in an area of outstanding natural beauty.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/09/27/open-thread-9-27-23/#comment-2700318</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2023 00:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“THIS SHOULD BE CONCERNING…” says John Campbell, the former nursing lecturer in the UK.

Now, our host here has taken posters and likely me to task over this because of confounding data between those Covid-19 vaccinated and those still unvaccinated through the recent pandemic.

But yesterday, using official UK data, and by combining two sets for the 19.1 million adult people in England, we have alarming results.

[b]Overall, all-cause mortality is about one-third lower in the unvaccinated than the vaccinated groups. This result is the opposite of what we’ve been officially told[/b], here in the US and elsewhere by our governments.

The data is broken down by age groups of a million or more. And some of the findings reported are alarmingly higher for certain age groups, such as those 40-49 years of age, who were thought to be significantly less vulnerable than those of senior age.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rO9DDganV4

I DON’T KNOW what to think we see here. Except that, as in politics, I feel I’ve been LIED TO — and too many people simply don’t want to accept this discomforting reality. I don’t want to, myself.

Science and politics in yet another failure? Yet this seems to be true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“THIS SHOULD BE CONCERNING…” says John Campbell, the former nursing lecturer in the UK.</p>
<p>Now, our host here has taken posters and likely me to task over this because of confounding data between those Covid-19 vaccinated and those still unvaccinated through the recent pandemic.</p>
<p>But yesterday, using official UK data, and by combining two sets for the 19.1 million adult people in England, we have alarming results.</p>
<p>[b]Overall, all-cause mortality is about one-third lower in the unvaccinated than the vaccinated groups. This result is the opposite of what we’ve been officially told[/b], here in the US and elsewhere by our governments.</p>
<p>The data is broken down by age groups of a million or more. And some of the findings reported are alarmingly higher for certain age groups, such as those 40-49 years of age, who were thought to be significantly less vulnerable than those of senior age.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rO9DDganV4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rO9DDganV4</a></p>
<p>I DON’T KNOW what to think we see here. Except that, as in politics, I feel I’ve been LIED TO — and too many people simply don’t want to accept this discomforting reality. I don’t want to, myself.</p>
<p>Science and politics in yet another failure? Yet this seems to be true.</p>
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		By: Hubert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/09/27/open-thread-9-27-23/#comment-2700269</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hubert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr: Modris Eksteins wrote a book about his family&#039;s wartime and postwar journey from Latvia to Canada by way of the DP camps in Germany:

https://www.amazon.com/Walking-Since-Daybreak-Eastern-Century/dp/061808231X

A former colleague&#039;s parents left Estonia by boat in September 1944 just ahead of the Red Army. They made it to Sweden and eventually settled in New Jersey. The father died in the States. The mother made it back home after the collapse of the Soviet Union and died there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr: Modris Eksteins wrote a book about his family&#8217;s wartime and postwar journey from Latvia to Canada by way of the DP camps in Germany:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Walking-Since-Daybreak-Eastern-Century/dp/061808231X" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.amazon.com/Walking-Since-Daybreak-Eastern-Century/dp/061808231X</a></p>
<p>A former colleague&#8217;s parents left Estonia by boat in September 1944 just ahead of the Red Army. They made it to Sweden and eventually settled in New Jersey. The father died in the States. The mother made it back home after the collapse of the Soviet Union and died there.</p>
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		By: Oligonicella		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/09/27/open-thread-9-27-23/#comment-2700265</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oligonicella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 18:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lovely and pleasant.  Thank you.  

@2:50 is my favorite style to do portraits, albeit with contrast pushed a little more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely and pleasant.  Thank you.  </p>
<p>@2:50 is my favorite style to do portraits, albeit with contrast pushed a little more.</p>
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		By: Someone Else		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/09/27/open-thread-9-27-23/#comment-2700261</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Someone Else]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 17:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of my lefty Facebook friends shared this:

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-09-24/mcmanus-column-trump-second-term-agenda?fbclid=IwAR2tlyPaGzQhm8vm53sDBjm3aJLAqLB3kjVLnyDcwZBbHMllDaN_VX3uRXQ

Like the list is a list of bad things. (Remember, this is the LA times, and the writer thinks this all a mad fascist power grab. &quot;Mwah-ha-ha!&quot;):

Use the military to participate in the largest deportation of undocumented immigrants in American history;
Order the National Guard into cities with high crime rates, whether local officials want it or not;
Prosecute Californians who protect minors coming to the state for gender-affirming care;
Impose a 10% tariff on almost all foreign goods, increasing prices for consumers;
Appoint a special prosecutor to “go after” his political opponents, beginning with Biden;
Purge the federal civil service of anyone who questions his views.

I find this laughable:
“&#039;I will appoint a real special ‘prosecutor’ to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the USA, Joe Biden, the entire Biden crime family, &#038; all others involved with the destruction of our elections, borders, &#038; country itself!&#039; [Trump] wrote in a social media post after he was arraigned on charges that he illegally retained classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate. [...] If he carries out that threat, it would represent a politicization of the Justice Department unmatched since the Watergate scandal half a century ago.

ROTFLMAO. Politicization &quot;unmatched&quot; since Watergate? Ha ha ha ha ha ha!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my lefty Facebook friends shared this:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-09-24/mcmanus-column-trump-second-term-agenda?fbclid=IwAR2tlyPaGzQhm8vm53sDBjm3aJLAqLB3kjVLnyDcwZBbHMllDaN_VX3uRXQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-09-24/mcmanus-column-trump-second-term-agenda?fbclid=IwAR2tlyPaGzQhm8vm53sDBjm3aJLAqLB3kjVLnyDcwZBbHMllDaN_VX3uRXQ</a></p>
<p>Like the list is a list of bad things. (Remember, this is the LA times, and the writer thinks this all a mad fascist power grab. &#8220;Mwah-ha-ha!&#8221;):</p>
<p>Use the military to participate in the largest deportation of undocumented immigrants in American history;<br />
Order the National Guard into cities with high crime rates, whether local officials want it or not;<br />
Prosecute Californians who protect minors coming to the state for gender-affirming care;<br />
Impose a 10% tariff on almost all foreign goods, increasing prices for consumers;<br />
Appoint a special prosecutor to “go after” his political opponents, beginning with Biden;<br />
Purge the federal civil service of anyone who questions his views.</p>
<p>I find this laughable:<br />
“&#8217;I will appoint a real special ‘prosecutor’ to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the USA, Joe Biden, the entire Biden crime family, &amp; all others involved with the destruction of our elections, borders, &amp; country itself!&#8217; [Trump] wrote in a social media post after he was arraigned on charges that he illegally retained classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate. [&#8230;] If he carries out that threat, it would represent a politicization of the Justice Department unmatched since the Watergate scandal half a century ago.</p>
<p>ROTFLMAO. Politicization &#8220;unmatched&#8221; since Watergate? Ha ha ha ha ha ha!</p>
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		By: ArtfldgrsGhost		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/09/27/open-thread-9-27-23/#comment-2700255</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ArtfldgrsGhost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 16:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This one is up neo&#039;s alley
though given the source... 

The Little-Known Story of World War II’s ‘Last Million’ Displaced People
A new book by historian David Nasaw tells the story of refugees who could not—or would not—return home after the conflict
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/what-happened-wwiis-last-million-displaced-people-180975799/

[do note that the population collapse is now open - they even say so openly when talking about needing these immigrants as we didnt have children... china is in the crapper too]

the text follows the “three to five years [refugees spent] in displaced persons camps, temporary homelands in exile, divided by nationality, with their own police forces, churches and synagogues, schools, newspapers, theaters, and infirmaries,”

The Allied troops who occupied Germany at the end of the war were “astounded” and “horrified” by what they saw “They had expected to see a Germany that looked much like London had after the Blitz, where there was extensive damage,” he says. “But the damage was a thousand times worse, and the number of homeless, shelterless, starving humans was overwhelming.”

====

In 1948, the United States passed the Displaced Persons Act. Though the legislation was designed to resettle thousands of European refugees, it only granted visas to those who had entered refugee camps before December 1945.

===

&lt;b&gt;Based on Nasaw’s research, only about 50,000 of the quarter million Jews seeking resettlement were admitted to the U.S. under the Displaced Persons Act. (“Significant numbers” also settled in Canada, he says.) Those from Latvia, Estonia, Poland and Yugoslavia were resettled elsewhere.&lt;/b&gt;

My family is latvian on dads side... 
so i dont  know what he is talking about!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one is up neo&#8217;s alley<br />
though given the source&#8230; </p>
<p>The Little-Known Story of World War II’s ‘Last Million’ Displaced People<br />
A new book by historian David Nasaw tells the story of refugees who could not—or would not—return home after the conflict<br />
<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/what-happened-wwiis-last-million-displaced-people-180975799/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/what-happened-wwiis-last-million-displaced-people-180975799/</a></p>
<p>[do note that the population collapse is now open &#8211; they even say so openly when talking about needing these immigrants as we didnt have children&#8230; china is in the crapper too]</p>
<p>the text follows the “three to five years [refugees spent] in displaced persons camps, temporary homelands in exile, divided by nationality, with their own police forces, churches and synagogues, schools, newspapers, theaters, and infirmaries,”</p>
<p>The Allied troops who occupied Germany at the end of the war were “astounded” and “horrified” by what they saw “They had expected to see a Germany that looked much like London had after the Blitz, where there was extensive damage,” he says. “But the damage was a thousand times worse, and the number of homeless, shelterless, starving humans was overwhelming.”</p>
<p>====</p>
<p>In 1948, the United States passed the Displaced Persons Act. Though the legislation was designed to resettle thousands of European refugees, it only granted visas to those who had entered refugee camps before December 1945.</p>
<p>===</p>
<p><b>Based on Nasaw’s research, only about 50,000 of the quarter million Jews seeking resettlement were admitted to the U.S. under the Displaced Persons Act. (“Significant numbers” also settled in Canada, he says.) Those from Latvia, Estonia, Poland and Yugoslavia were resettled elsewhere.</b></p>
<p>My family is latvian on dads side&#8230;<br />
so i dont  know what he is talking about!!</p>
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		By: cb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/09/27/open-thread-9-27-23/#comment-2700254</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 16:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wild moment US Navy phalanx anti-aircraft gun trains its sights on passenger 737 as sailors laugh and tell the autonomous gun &#039;no no no&#039;

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12562241/Navy-phalanx-gun-aircraft-passenger-plane-video.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wild moment US Navy phalanx anti-aircraft gun trains its sights on passenger 737 as sailors laugh and tell the autonomous gun &#8216;no no no&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12562241/Navy-phalanx-gun-aircraft-passenger-plane-video.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12562241/Navy-phalanx-gun-aircraft-passenger-plane-video.html</a></p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/09/27/open-thread-9-27-23/#comment-2700253</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 16:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“This prototype version of Spectacles is equipped with a camera and five filters that can transform a non-wearer into a bear, cat, clown, deer, or pig-bunny.”

Mescaline can transform them into feathered serpent people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“This prototype version of Spectacles is equipped with a camera and five filters that can transform a non-wearer into a bear, cat, clown, deer, or pig-bunny.”</p>
<p>Mescaline can transform them into feathered serpent people.</p>
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		By: David Foster		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/09/27/open-thread-9-27-23/#comment-2700251</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Foster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 16:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cornflour--the IEEE Spectrum is depressing.  Basically, all fields of knowledge are being turned into &#039;social studies&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornflour&#8211;the IEEE Spectrum is depressing.  Basically, all fields of knowledge are being turned into &#8216;social studies&#8217;.</p>
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		By: ArtfldgrsGhost		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/09/27/open-thread-9-27-23/#comment-2700250</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ArtfldgrsGhost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 16:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My father went through a &quot;displaced persons camp&quot; and took the vow to be a US citizen... a pox on your house for disparaging victims of Hilter/Stalin... and often children... in his case... he was under 10. 

take a look at this photo
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/images/large/e53281f5-3dbc-4c67-a54e-bff520ed0c02.jpg.pagespeed.ce.vlCI0UR8d6.jpg

then apologize for what you said.. 
they dressed better than you do!!!
they dressed better than 90% of us

some more information... 
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/feldafing-displaced-persons-camp]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father went through a &#8220;displaced persons camp&#8221; and took the vow to be a US citizen&#8230; a pox on your house for disparaging victims of Hilter/Stalin&#8230; and often children&#8230; in his case&#8230; he was under 10. </p>
<p>take a look at this photo<br />
<a href="https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/images/large/e53281f5-3dbc-4c67-a54e-bff520ed0c02.jpg.pagespeed.ce.vlCI0UR8d6.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/images/large/e53281f5-3dbc-4c67-a54e-bff520ed0c02.jpg.pagespeed.ce.vlCI0UR8d6.jpg</a></p>
<p>then apologize for what you said..<br />
they dressed better than you do!!!<br />
they dressed better than 90% of us</p>
<p>some more information&#8230;<br />
<a href="https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/feldafing-displaced-persons-camp" rel="nofollow ugc">https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/feldafing-displaced-persons-camp</a></p>
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