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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2023 04:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Someone is upset  that government agencies don&#039;t take his hobby seriously?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone is upset  that government agencies don&#8217;t take his hobby seriously?</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2023 03:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley--NASA has apparently just released the name of their new official in charge of UFO research.

I&#039;m  guessing that the &quot;optics&quot; of touting--several times during the recent press briefing--their declared commitment to an &quot;open and transparent&quot; approach to researching UFOs, while, at the same time,  keeping the name of the official who was supposed to be in charge of that research secret did not play well.

I&#039;m wondering if the old idea that NASA really stands for &quot;never a straight  answer&quot; has more than a little truth to it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley&#8211;NASA has apparently just released the name of their new official in charge of UFO research.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m  guessing that the &#8220;optics&#8221; of touting&#8211;several times during the recent press briefing&#8211;their declared commitment to an &#8220;open and transparent&#8221; approach to researching UFOs, while, at the same time,  keeping the name of the official who was supposed to be in charge of that research secret did not play well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if the old idea that NASA really stands for &#8220;never a straight  answer&#8221; has more than a little truth to it.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2023 00:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would think most intelligent aliens would have known to stay clear, specially by the 90s]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think most intelligent aliens would have known to stay clear, specially by the 90s</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2023 00:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine:

It seems you have already confirmed my prediction.  

Am I a &quot;UFO Denier?&quot;  The social stigma and shame must be out there.  :)  

Like UFOs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine:</p>
<p>It seems you have already confirmed my prediction.  </p>
<p>Am I a &#8220;UFO Denier?&#8221;  The social stigma and shame must be out there.  🙂  </p>
<p>Like UFOs.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 23:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[om--Let me make a prediction.

If such improved cell phones were to be put into the hands of citizens, no matter how anomalous whatever such citizens happen to record is--say, for instance, a triangular UAP that&#039;s as big as a Walmart, staying stationary, or slowly and soundlessly gliding, at low altitude, over some location--the scientists will decide that whatever the camera recorded, it cannot be what it seems to be, and they will find some excuse to discard those images.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>om&#8211;Let me make a prediction.</p>
<p>If such improved cell phones were to be put into the hands of citizens, no matter how anomalous whatever such citizens happen to record is&#8211;say, for instance, a triangular UAP that&#8217;s as big as a Walmart, staying stationary, or slowly and soundlessly gliding, at low altitude, over some location&#8211;the scientists will decide that whatever the camera recorded, it cannot be what it seems to be, and they will find some excuse to discard those images.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 21:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine:

And if the ap for smartphones is funded by the Feds and pushed out there let me predict what will happen.

1.  No UFOs are caught zipping around.

2.  No exterrestrials are caught alive or dead.

3.  The UFO &quot;community&quot; will seize on the absence of evidence as proof of a deep dark government conspiracy and coverup.

Faith and hope for UFOs endures forever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine:</p>
<p>And if the ap for smartphones is funded by the Feds and pushed out there let me predict what will happen.</p>
<p>1.  No UFOs are caught zipping around.</p>
<p>2.  No exterrestrials are caught alive or dead.</p>
<p>3.  The UFO &#8220;community&#8221; will seize on the absence of evidence as proof of a deep dark government conspiracy and coverup.</p>
<p>Faith and hope for UFOs endures forever.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 19:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[on—

Actually, at the recent NASA briefing on their approach to UFO research —despite the panelist’s general dismissal of civilian UFO reports as lacking necessary “scientific “ data—the dour head of their research team proposed creating new programs to upgrade the capabilities of ubiquitous cell phones to enable them to better capture data on UFOs I.e. “crowdsourcing.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on—</p>
<p>Actually, at the recent NASA briefing on their approach to UFO research —despite the panelist’s general dismissal of civilian UFO reports as lacking necessary “scientific “ data—the dour head of their research team proposed creating new programs to upgrade the capabilities of ubiquitous cell phones to enable them to better capture data on UFOs I.e. “crowdsourcing.”</p>
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		By: Hubert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 19:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the subject of submarines: I went into the submarine EML &quot;Lembit&quot; at the Lennusadam Seaplane Harbor Museum in Tallinn, Estonia this summer:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EML_Lembit

and 

https://meremuuseum.ee/lennusadam/en/

&quot;Lembit&quot; was built and launched at the Vickers-Armstrongs shipyard in Barrow-in-Furness in 1935-1936 and commissioned into the interwar Estonian navy in 1937. She survived WWII and was the oldest submarine afloat until she was moved to the museum in 2011. The torpedo room was surprisingly spacious. The captain&#039;s quarters had mahogany cabinetry with plush upholstery. Fascinating.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of submarines: I went into the submarine EML &#8220;Lembit&#8221; at the Lennusadam Seaplane Harbor Museum in Tallinn, Estonia this summer:</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EML_Lembit" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EML_Lembit</a></p>
<p>and </p>
<p><a href="https://meremuuseum.ee/lennusadam/en/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://meremuuseum.ee/lennusadam/en/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Lembit&#8221; was built and launched at the Vickers-Armstrongs shipyard in Barrow-in-Furness in 1935-1936 and commissioned into the interwar Estonian navy in 1937. She survived WWII and was the oldest submarine afloat until she was moved to the museum in 2011. The torpedo room was surprisingly spacious. The captain&#8217;s quarters had mahogany cabinetry with plush upholstery. Fascinating.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/09/14/open-thread-9-14-23/#comment-2698699</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;A drive by&quot; experience is desired it seems.  

Nowadays everyone wants some monetizable video.  

Keep your smart phone handy Snow.  You never know when you might have an opportunity.  Until then it is all just a leap of faith.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A drive by&#8221; experience is desired it seems.  </p>
<p>Nowadays everyone wants some monetizable video.  </p>
<p>Keep your smart phone handy Snow.  You never know when you might have an opportunity.  Until then it is all just a leap of faith.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE: The Mexican UFO Hearing, Supposed “Alien” Bodies, and Ryan Graves

To judge from his facial expressions at the Hearing, and his later online statement, Ryan Graves was and is not happy, he is pissed.*

He was a guest and presenter at this Hearing, and was supposed to talk about UFOs as a threat to aviation safety.

I gather that he feels that he was taken advantage of, that his presence and credentials were used to add stature and legitimacy to the Hearing, and that he was made an unwilling participant in a “stunt,” in what he views as a hoax. 

However, the presentation of these supposed &quot;Alien&quot; bodies does present an opportunity. 

If these are supposedly irrefutably &quot;Alien&quot; bodies, let well qualified members of the world-wide  research community have complete access to them plus the location where they were found, and let these scientists run whatever non-destructive tests they want. (I do realize that some source of funding must be found to pay for all of these, very likely, very expensive tests.)

And then, we will have proof that likely all or most can accept, one way or the other.



*  See  https://twitter.com/uncertainvector/status/1702023350803959988]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: The Mexican UFO Hearing, Supposed “Alien” Bodies, and Ryan Graves</p>
<p>To judge from his facial expressions at the Hearing, and his later online statement, Ryan Graves was and is not happy, he is pissed.*</p>
<p>He was a guest and presenter at this Hearing, and was supposed to talk about UFOs as a threat to aviation safety.</p>
<p>I gather that he feels that he was taken advantage of, that his presence and credentials were used to add stature and legitimacy to the Hearing, and that he was made an unwilling participant in a “stunt,” in what he views as a hoax. </p>
<p>However, the presentation of these supposed &#8220;Alien&#8221; bodies does present an opportunity. </p>
<p>If these are supposedly irrefutably &#8220;Alien&#8221; bodies, let well qualified members of the world-wide  research community have complete access to them plus the location where they were found, and let these scientists run whatever non-destructive tests they want. (I do realize that some source of funding must be found to pay for all of these, very likely, very expensive tests.)</p>
<p>And then, we will have proof that likely all or most can accept, one way or the other.</p>
<p>*  See  <a href="https://twitter.com/uncertainvector/status/1702023350803959988" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/uncertainvector/status/1702023350803959988</a></p>
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