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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 15:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Physics guy
Thanks for the explanation.

Some time back, we had a discussion about whether one has a moral obligation to think rationally about public affairs as opposed to consulting one&#039;s feelings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Physics guy<br />
Thanks for the explanation.</p>
<p>Some time back, we had a discussion about whether one has a moral obligation to think rationally about public affairs as opposed to consulting one&#8217;s feelings.</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[physicsguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 12:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard,  another factor is that the centrists in my family tend to avoid politics as much as possible.  As I said, they basically despise both parties and think politics is a waste of their time.  They are not total LIVs and will pay more attention as the election nears.  And yes, personality matters a lot.  Since, in their view, all politicians are tainted, then they make their choice based on what they see in personality hoping to translate to some level of integrity.  So, in 2016 they had seen decades of Hillary and concluded, rightly, she was a shrew of highest order.  They knew who Trump was, but not in detail, and at that time his personality was amusing to a degree.  But after 4 years, their view changed.  Note how results and policies don&#039;t factor too much into the decision.  It is internally consistent:  the basic premise is all politicians are bad to some extent, therefore find the one who seems less bad by their personality; ie judge the book by it&#039;s cover and hope it&#039;s a good read.

Given that, Newsom will *appear* much more palatable than Trump. However, as I said, Newsom vs DeSantis could be a close call for them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,  another factor is that the centrists in my family tend to avoid politics as much as possible.  As I said, they basically despise both parties and think politics is a waste of their time.  They are not total LIVs and will pay more attention as the election nears.  And yes, personality matters a lot.  Since, in their view, all politicians are tainted, then they make their choice based on what they see in personality hoping to translate to some level of integrity.  So, in 2016 they had seen decades of Hillary and concluded, rightly, she was a shrew of highest order.  They knew who Trump was, but not in detail, and at that time his personality was amusing to a degree.  But after 4 years, their view changed.  Note how results and policies don&#8217;t factor too much into the decision.  It is internally consistent:  the basic premise is all politicians are bad to some extent, therefore find the one who seems less bad by their personality; ie judge the book by it&#8217;s cover and hope it&#8217;s a good read.</p>
<p>Given that, Newsom will *appear* much more palatable than Trump. However, as I said, Newsom vs DeSantis could be a close call for them.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 12:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;wonderful, great, fab&lt;/i&gt;
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Neo refuses to confirm or deny she once wrote a fan letter to Ringo Starr.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytdpfd4D96U]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>wonderful, great, fab</i><br />
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Neo refuses to confirm or deny she once wrote a fan letter to Ringo Starr.<br />
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytdpfd4D96U" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytdpfd4D96U</a></p>
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		By: PA+Cat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PA+Cat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 08:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo says that she is &quot;in awe of the mental gymnastics it takes to write an opinion piece&quot; like David Ignatius&#039; latest:

I fully expect a video in the near future of Ignatius&#039; &quot;mental gymnastics&quot; under the heading of a new and unusual sport.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo says that she is &#8220;in awe of the mental gymnastics it takes to write an opinion piece&#8221; like David Ignatius&#8217; latest:</p>
<p>I fully expect a video in the near future of Ignatius&#8217; &#8220;mental gymnastics&#8221; under the heading of a new and unusual sport.</p>
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		By: Jordan Rivers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan Rivers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 06:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope for his sake that Ignatius is wearing asbestos underwear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope for his sake that Ignatius is wearing asbestos underwear.</p>
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		By: Xylourgos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xylourgos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 05:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine - Upsetting the troops can be a risky venture.

Mob slaughters Emperor Maurice and Family and (Pope) Gregory applauds

&quot;He had defeated the advance by the Avars, but his government was short of money, and he angered his soldiers by reducing their pay and obliging them to pay for their own arms and clothing. Maurice&#039;s frugality also angered his civilian subjects. They had no use for the asceticism in Maurice that they admired in Jesus Christ.&quot;

http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/islam04.htm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine &#8211; Upsetting the troops can be a risky venture.</p>
<p>Mob slaughters Emperor Maurice and Family and (Pope) Gregory applauds</p>
<p>&#8220;He had defeated the advance by the Avars, but his government was short of money, and he angered his soldiers by reducing their pay and obliging them to pay for their own arms and clothing. Maurice&#8217;s frugality also angered his civilian subjects. They had no use for the asceticism in Maurice that they admired in Jesus Christ.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/islam04.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/islam04.htm</a></p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 02:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[physicsguy

Sounds like problems with personality, not issues.  To put it another way, would they vote for the current crapshow to avoid having to listen to Trump?

Could one differentiate &quot;revenge&quot; from doing something useful about the weaponized organs of government?  Have to start at the top....

Trump would likely take an unseemly pleasure in firing Garland (add half a dozen more names we&#039;d recognize) before lunch.  Does that disqualify the actions?  Many of the rest of us might use up our liquor ration ahead of time.  And that would be for the enjoyment of the spectacle.  Later on, we can think about the various improvements to follow.

As to following the money.  I was in the life insurance business up until about 2016.  For the last ten years or thereabouts, several companies with which I had contracts wanted me to take a quick class on spotting money laundering and reporting it.  Had to retake annually.  And I wasn&#039;t a banker or financial advisor or tax accountant or any of that sort of thing.

Among other things, transfers between companies with no noticeable business advantage were suspect.  Ignoring early withdrawal penalties....   Transactions of $10k or more were automatically flagged...for somebody to look at.  Various other items were to be looked for or reported.  Point is, lots of people with Duty To Report almost certainly saw Biden money going past.  Did they raise a red flag?  Then what?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>physicsguy</p>
<p>Sounds like problems with personality, not issues.  To put it another way, would they vote for the current crapshow to avoid having to listen to Trump?</p>
<p>Could one differentiate &#8220;revenge&#8221; from doing something useful about the weaponized organs of government?  Have to start at the top&#8230;.</p>
<p>Trump would likely take an unseemly pleasure in firing Garland (add half a dozen more names we&#8217;d recognize) before lunch.  Does that disqualify the actions?  Many of the rest of us might use up our liquor ration ahead of time.  And that would be for the enjoyment of the spectacle.  Later on, we can think about the various improvements to follow.</p>
<p>As to following the money.  I was in the life insurance business up until about 2016.  For the last ten years or thereabouts, several companies with which I had contracts wanted me to take a quick class on spotting money laundering and reporting it.  Had to retake annually.  And I wasn&#8217;t a banker or financial advisor or tax accountant or any of that sort of thing.</p>
<p>Among other things, transfers between companies with no noticeable business advantage were suspect.  Ignoring early withdrawal penalties&#8230;.   Transactions of $10k or more were automatically flagged&#8230;for somebody to look at.  Various other items were to be looked for or reported.  Point is, lots of people with Duty To Report almost certainly saw Biden money going past.  Did they raise a red flag?  Then what?</p>
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		By: Abraxas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abraxas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 00:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wes Moore could be the Democrats&#039; New Obama, but 2024 is probably too early for that.   As the VP candidate, he could soften the blow if Harris is dropped.  Whitmer has the advantage of being a swing state governor, but is she really likeable enough?  Grisham is learning that, while voters may like girl bosses they don&#039;t want them to be too bossy -- and after COVID, Whitmer does have a reputation for bossiness. Also, does Whitmer really connect with ordinary voters, or does she suffer from the familiar arrogance of those in power?

Newsom looks like the party&#039;s best bet, since there&#039;s unlikely to be enough time for someone less known to gain traction.  If having the media on the Democrats&#039; side is worth 5-10% at the polls, he could end up in the White House.  A third party centrist candidate could complicate things for both parties, most likely taking more votes from Trump.  I do wonder though: if people who know California is a failed state don&#039;t automatically vote for the Republican, does that give Newsom an opening?
_________

Official Washington still believes that the country&#039;s problems can be solved by more legislation, more programs, and more spending -- the throwing money at problems approach that was much ridiculed in the 70s and 80s.  It&#039;s only natural.  Government is their business and they want it to grow.  They also can&#039;t admit that the country was actually better off under Trump, who didn&#039;t have a Congress that would really go along with his ideas, than under Biden (or Obama or Bush).  But do they really believe that Biden&#039;s &quot;accomplishments&quot; amount to very much, or are they just grateful that he got Trump out of the White House?
_________

I suppose  a Trump win is very unlikely, but that Biden could beat him in 2020 has left a lot of us dazed and wondering what the hell is wrong with the country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wes Moore could be the Democrats&#8217; New Obama, but 2024 is probably too early for that.   As the VP candidate, he could soften the blow if Harris is dropped.  Whitmer has the advantage of being a swing state governor, but is she really likeable enough?  Grisham is learning that, while voters may like girl bosses they don&#8217;t want them to be too bossy &#8212; and after COVID, Whitmer does have a reputation for bossiness. Also, does Whitmer really connect with ordinary voters, or does she suffer from the familiar arrogance of those in power?</p>
<p>Newsom looks like the party&#8217;s best bet, since there&#8217;s unlikely to be enough time for someone less known to gain traction.  If having the media on the Democrats&#8217; side is worth 5-10% at the polls, he could end up in the White House.  A third party centrist candidate could complicate things for both parties, most likely taking more votes from Trump.  I do wonder though: if people who know California is a failed state don&#8217;t automatically vote for the Republican, does that give Newsom an opening?<br />
_________</p>
<p>Official Washington still believes that the country&#8217;s problems can be solved by more legislation, more programs, and more spending &#8212; the throwing money at problems approach that was much ridiculed in the 70s and 80s.  It&#8217;s only natural.  Government is their business and they want it to grow.  They also can&#8217;t admit that the country was actually better off under Trump, who didn&#8217;t have a Congress that would really go along with his ideas, than under Biden (or Obama or Bush).  But do they really believe that Biden&#8217;s &#8220;accomplishments&#8221; amount to very much, or are they just grateful that he got Trump out of the White House?<br />
_________</p>
<p>I suppose  a Trump win is very unlikely, but that Biden could beat him in 2020 has left a lot of us dazed and wondering what the hell is wrong with the country.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 00:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[meanwhile biden declares war on half the country and sics the fbi on parents they are fine with that, how do they like their higher prices, you think their savings will last them through this dantesque landscape, god help us if he stumbles into a war, and we run out of fuel and/or ammo,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meanwhile biden declares war on half the country and sics the fbi on parents they are fine with that, how do they like their higher prices, you think their savings will last them through this dantesque landscape, god help us if he stumbles into a war, and we run out of fuel and/or ammo,</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 00:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see the news that Biden will veto a substantial military pay raise for junior officers included in the House version of the 2024 Defense Appropriations bill.*

If I am not mistaken, would be Emperor Biden might do well to remember that it was not being paid or paid enough which was one of the major motivating factors prompting some of Rome&#039;s legions to revolt.

*  See  https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2023/09/14/biden-will-veto-military-pay-raise-n2628448]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the news that Biden will veto a substantial military pay raise for junior officers included in the House version of the 2024 Defense Appropriations bill.*</p>
<p>If I am not mistaken, would be Emperor Biden might do well to remember that it was not being paid or paid enough which was one of the major motivating factors prompting some of Rome&#8217;s legions to revolt.</p>
<p>*  See  <a href="https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2023/09/14/biden-will-veto-military-pay-raise-n2628448" rel="nofollow ugc">https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2023/09/14/biden-will-veto-military-pay-raise-n2628448</a></p>
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