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		By: BrooklynBoy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/18/vivek-and-tucker/#comment-2695000</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrooklynBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vivek Ramaswamy is a Putnista which for me means that he is out of his league.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivek Ramaswamy is a Putnista which for me means that he is out of his league.</p>
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		By: Abraxas		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/18/vivek-and-tucker/#comment-2694780</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2023 17:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With the second generation of neocons, the meaning of the term changed.  They hadn&#039;t usually moved from left to right and were often the children of prominent neoconservatives.  They weren&#039;t talking so much about social policy, but about foreign policy.  George W. Bush brought foreign policy neocons into his administration and the new meaning stuck.

Someone could make an interesting study of what became of that earlier critique of social policy.  To some extent it became standard among Republicans and conservatives (and for a time, even moderate Democrats).  To some extent it seems to have dried up or retreated back into think tanks.  It took courage to take on the prevailing social policy consensus of the day, but with time the failures of the Great Society became common knowledge.  

Doing something about them is a different matter and more difficult.  American political movements tend to end up preoccupied with foreign policy, because it is so hard to change things domestically (and there can also be more glory and national unity in foreign and military actions).  Sometimes foreign conflicts forced us to take notice.  Sometimes we got in to trouble ourselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the second generation of neocons, the meaning of the term changed.  They hadn&#8217;t usually moved from left to right and were often the children of prominent neoconservatives.  They weren&#8217;t talking so much about social policy, but about foreign policy.  George W. Bush brought foreign policy neocons into his administration and the new meaning stuck.</p>
<p>Someone could make an interesting study of what became of that earlier critique of social policy.  To some extent it became standard among Republicans and conservatives (and for a time, even moderate Democrats).  To some extent it seems to have dried up or retreated back into think tanks.  It took courage to take on the prevailing social policy consensus of the day, but with time the failures of the Great Society became common knowledge.  </p>
<p>Doing something about them is a different matter and more difficult.  American political movements tend to end up preoccupied with foreign policy, because it is so hard to change things domestically (and there can also be more glory and national unity in foreign and military actions).  Sometimes foreign conflicts forced us to take notice.  Sometimes we got in to trouble ourselves.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/18/vivek-and-tucker/#comment-2694716</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Chester Draws - thanks for your explanation; I knew there had to be one, but couldn&#039;t pull it together as you did.
It looks like one of the factors is the fact that our &quot;50 countries&quot; really are a single &quot;nation&quot; -- and thus all of them are restricted by the same employment and financial laws and regulations.
Were it not so, the &quot;laboratory of democracy&quot; could also be more of a &quot;laboratory of economy&quot; than it is now.

&quot;And this is before we get down to issues of labour laws. Rich countries demand high standards, but that won’t allow cheap manufacturers to flourish.&quot;

However, the cheap manufacturers here DO flourish (although perhaps more in the service and physical labor sectors than in the factories) because the people who have enacted all of those high-standard labor laws are also the ones circumventing them with illegal immigrants.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Chester Draws &#8211; thanks for your explanation; I knew there had to be one, but couldn&#8217;t pull it together as you did.<br />
It looks like one of the factors is the fact that our &#8220;50 countries&#8221; really are a single &#8220;nation&#8221; &#8212; and thus all of them are restricted by the same employment and financial laws and regulations.<br />
Were it not so, the &#8220;laboratory of democracy&#8221; could also be more of a &#8220;laboratory of economy&#8221; than it is now.</p>
<p>&#8220;And this is before we get down to issues of labour laws. Rich countries demand high standards, but that won’t allow cheap manufacturers to flourish.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, the cheap manufacturers here DO flourish (although perhaps more in the service and physical labor sectors than in the factories) because the people who have enacted all of those high-standard labor laws are also the ones circumventing them with illegal immigrants.</p>
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		By: Chester Draws		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2023 05:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;If each state specializes in something we want or need, we don’t require a “comparative advantage” with any outside country.

Change my mind.&lt;/i&gt;

And yet that strategy has been tried by large countries, and failed.

To make high end materials you need a well educated workforce. To make clothes you need a cheap (so under-educated) workforce. That&#039;s why basically no-one does both. No-one will set up a sweat-shop making sweatshirts in the US, your labour costs would make it impossible. 

If you have a lively financial sector, like New York, then the cost of money is high. So investment in long-term bulk operations like mining never happens -- it costs too much. Countries with large financial sectors are largely out of the mining business (except as legacies from previous times).

And this is before we get down to issues of labour laws. Rich countries demand high standards, but that won&#039;t allow cheap manufacturers to flourish. 

If someone in the US could set up a semi-conductor plant and out-price the Taiwanese they would already have done so. Same goes for making clothes. Same for mining. 

The US doesn&#039;t even have high unemployment, so how are you going to get these people to make these things that aren&#039;t currently profitable? You have to take them from things that are currently profitable. 

Trying to beat the laws of economics is the sort of nonsense that Marx tried. It doesn&#039;t work, because the real world isn&#039;t run in some arbitrary fashion. You can&#039;t just wish away awkward realities like competitive advantage by hand-waving that the US is big.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If each state specializes in something we want or need, we don’t require a “comparative advantage” with any outside country.</p>
<p>Change my mind.</i></p>
<p>And yet that strategy has been tried by large countries, and failed.</p>
<p>To make high end materials you need a well educated workforce. To make clothes you need a cheap (so under-educated) workforce. That&#8217;s why basically no-one does both. No-one will set up a sweat-shop making sweatshirts in the US, your labour costs would make it impossible. </p>
<p>If you have a lively financial sector, like New York, then the cost of money is high. So investment in long-term bulk operations like mining never happens &#8212; it costs too much. Countries with large financial sectors are largely out of the mining business (except as legacies from previous times).</p>
<p>And this is before we get down to issues of labour laws. Rich countries demand high standards, but that won&#8217;t allow cheap manufacturers to flourish. </p>
<p>If someone in the US could set up a semi-conductor plant and out-price the Taiwanese they would already have done so. Same goes for making clothes. Same for mining. </p>
<p>The US doesn&#8217;t even have high unemployment, so how are you going to get these people to make these things that aren&#8217;t currently profitable? You have to take them from things that are currently profitable. </p>
<p>Trying to beat the laws of economics is the sort of nonsense that Marx tried. It doesn&#8217;t work, because the real world isn&#8217;t run in some arbitrary fashion. You can&#8217;t just wish away awkward realities like competitive advantage by hand-waving that the US is big.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2023 03:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[miguel.  Ref yours of 230.
I can&#039;t imagine trying to sell war to the French or Brits in 1938.

But the results are what they are:  Additional year for the Wehrmacht to prepare, without casualties.  German people have one more Counter that Hitler is a genius and can be trusted to make the right decisions.  And the enemy will fold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>miguel.  Ref yours of 230.<br />
I can&#8217;t imagine trying to sell war to the French or Brits in 1938.</p>
<p>But the results are what they are:  Additional year for the Wehrmacht to prepare, without casualties.  German people have one more Counter that Hitler is a genius and can be trusted to make the right decisions.  And the enemy will fold.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/18/vivek-and-tucker/#comment-2694671</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2023 23:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[which seems a trite way of putting it, but the American dream is an idea not only about abundance but independence from other power centers, marxist is the most persistence strain of mental malware but it&#039;s not the only one,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>which seems a trite way of putting it, but the American dream is an idea not only about abundance but independence from other power centers, marxist is the most persistence strain of mental malware but it&#8217;s not the only one,</p>
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		By: Metamorf		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/18/vivek-and-tucker/#comment-2694670</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2023 23:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought VS did at least suggest a solution to tim ferrell&#039;s problem at the end of the interview. It&#039;s admittedly not simple, but simply broaching it is in itself is one of the things that distinguish him as a candidate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought VS did at least suggest a solution to tim ferrell&#8217;s problem at the end of the interview. It&#8217;s admittedly not simple, but simply broaching it is in itself is one of the things that distinguish him as a candidate.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/18/vivek-and-tucker/#comment-2694668</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2023 23:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I skimmed through chadwick moore&#039;s bio of tucker, he was an iconoclast even going back to when he was at trinity college, which he didn&#039;t get the degree, unlike
chuck todd, he knows what he&#039;s talking about

America is about an idea, trump thinks economics and manufacturing is key to the self identity of america, vivek is more ideological in same ways, desantis somewhere in the middle,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I skimmed through chadwick moore&#8217;s bio of tucker, he was an iconoclast even going back to when he was at trinity college, which he didn&#8217;t get the degree, unlike<br />
chuck todd, he knows what he&#8217;s talking about</p>
<p>America is about an idea, trump thinks economics and manufacturing is key to the self identity of america, vivek is more ideological in same ways, desantis somewhere in the middle,</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2023 23:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[well last time in 2014, he met mild resistance, remember the special consideration obama made to medvedev, 

if he hadn&#039;t paid off biden and co through gazprom, to shut down drilling, and 
&#039;phase out fossil fuels&#039; putin wouldn&#039;t have had the revenue to pull this off,

again you have to look at how putin sees himself, in the guise of a czar, xi sees himself as an emperor, erdogan as a sultan]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well last time in 2014, he met mild resistance, remember the special consideration obama made to medvedev, </p>
<p>if he hadn&#8217;t paid off biden and co through gazprom, to shut down drilling, and<br />
&#8216;phase out fossil fuels&#8217; putin wouldn&#8217;t have had the revenue to pull this off,</p>
<p>again you have to look at how putin sees himself, in the guise of a czar, xi sees himself as an emperor, erdogan as a sultan</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/18/vivek-and-tucker/#comment-2694661</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2023 23:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[tim ferrell:

Funny thing, I didn&#039;t hear him offering a solution to that particular problem in that video, simple or otherwise. Nor would any such solution be simple, anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tim ferrell:</p>
<p>Funny thing, I didn&#8217;t hear him offering a solution to that particular problem in that video, simple or otherwise. Nor would any such solution be simple, anyway.</p>
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