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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/17/the-lefts-goals-for-trump/#comment-2694477</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2023 21:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Locomotive Breath:

[Great moniker.]

You write: &quot;I’m old enough to remember 2016 when Trump couldn’t win either.&quot;

Shortly before the election, I wrote that I thought Trump&#039;s chances of winning were one in three. That&#039;s not &quot;couldn&#039;t win.&quot;  At that same point, Nathan Silver &lt;a href=&quot;https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-fivethirtyeight-gave-trump-a-better-chance-than-almost-anyone-else/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;gave Trump a 29%&lt;/a&gt; chance of winning. That&#039;s very similar.

Right now, I&#039;d give Trump about a 3% chance of winning in 2024, while I&#039;d give him a 95% chance of winning the GOP nomination.  That&#039;s not a good combination at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Locomotive Breath:</p>
<p>[Great moniker.]</p>
<p>You write: &#8220;I’m old enough to remember 2016 when Trump couldn’t win either.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shortly before the election, I wrote that I thought Trump&#8217;s chances of winning were one in three. That&#8217;s not &#8220;couldn&#8217;t win.&#8221;  At that same point, Nathan Silver <a href="https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-fivethirtyeight-gave-trump-a-better-chance-than-almost-anyone-else/" rel="nofollow ugc">gave Trump a 29%</a> chance of winning. That&#8217;s very similar.</p>
<p>Right now, I&#8217;d give Trump about a 3% chance of winning in 2024, while I&#8217;d give him a 95% chance of winning the GOP nomination.  That&#8217;s not a good combination at all.</p>
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		By: Locomotive Breath		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/17/the-lefts-goals-for-trump/#comment-2694466</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2023 20:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A little OT, but I believe the battle of Midway was won by superb intelligence work by Rochefort and Layton including the famous ruse about Midway being out of water so as to identify the target the Japanese were going to attack. Without taking anything away from the aircrews of the three US carriers, it&#039;s much easier to win a battle when you can attack from ambush. Going the other way, see also Pearl Harbor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little OT, but I believe the battle of Midway was won by superb intelligence work by Rochefort and Layton including the famous ruse about Midway being out of water so as to identify the target the Japanese were going to attack. Without taking anything away from the aircrews of the three US carriers, it&#8217;s much easier to win a battle when you can attack from ambush. Going the other way, see also Pearl Harbor.</p>
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		By: Locomotive Breath		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/17/the-lefts-goals-for-trump/#comment-2694464</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Locomotive Breath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2023 20:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps another coup attempt with a more sophisticated version of the Steele dossier, with the FBI and the DOJ cooperating once again to take down their enemy Trump.
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Only works if the Reps don&#039;t control the legislature and the Dems can start their fake witch hunt again. So taking both houses of Congress is singularly important.

In theory, Trump controls both the FBI and DOJ. Trump should have fired wimpy AG Jeff Sessions for recusing himself. Maybe he&#039;s learned his lesson and will get an AG with some spine. A good house cleaning is in order. If President, Trump should fire anyone who&#039;s playing dirty like they did the last time. What&#039;s he got to lose? They&#039;ll say nasty things about him anyway.

Meanwhile, I&#039;m old enough to remember 2016 when Trump couldn&#039;t win either. In fact, the Dems were probably so sure of themselves that they forgot to cheat. Didn&#039;t happen in 2020.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps another coup attempt with a more sophisticated version of the Steele dossier, with the FBI and the DOJ cooperating once again to take down their enemy Trump.<br />
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Only works if the Reps don&#8217;t control the legislature and the Dems can start their fake witch hunt again. So taking both houses of Congress is singularly important.</p>
<p>In theory, Trump controls both the FBI and DOJ. Trump should have fired wimpy AG Jeff Sessions for recusing himself. Maybe he&#8217;s learned his lesson and will get an AG with some spine. A good house cleaning is in order. If President, Trump should fire anyone who&#8217;s playing dirty like they did the last time. What&#8217;s he got to lose? They&#8217;ll say nasty things about him anyway.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I&#8217;m old enough to remember 2016 when Trump couldn&#8217;t win either. In fact, the Dems were probably so sure of themselves that they forgot to cheat. Didn&#8217;t happen in 2020.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/17/the-lefts-goals-for-trump/#comment-2694452</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2023 19:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vivek may be entitled to Secret Service protection -- but how much do we trust that agency now?

https://www.secretservice.gov/protection/leaders/campaign-2024
&quot;Title 18 U.S.C.&#039; 3056(a)(7) authorizes the U.S. Secret Service to provide protection for major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates:

Protection is authorized by the DHS Secretary after consultation with the Congressional Advisory Committee;

The Congressional Advisory Committee includes: Speaker of the House, House Minority Leader, Senate Majority Leader, Senate Minority Leader, and one additional member selected by the others;

Protection under these guidelines should only be granted within one year prior to the general election. Protection more than one year prior to the general election should only be granted in extraordinary, case by case circumstances in consultation with the committee, based on threat assessment and other factors.&quot;

DHS refused protection to RFK jr despite this:
&quot;Major candidates and their spouses began receiving protection after the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivek may be entitled to Secret Service protection &#8212; but how much do we trust that agency now?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.secretservice.gov/protection/leaders/campaign-2024" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.secretservice.gov/protection/leaders/campaign-2024</a><br />
&#8220;Title 18 U.S.C.&#8217; 3056(a)(7) authorizes the U.S. Secret Service to provide protection for major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates:</p>
<p>Protection is authorized by the DHS Secretary after consultation with the Congressional Advisory Committee;</p>
<p>The Congressional Advisory Committee includes: Speaker of the House, House Minority Leader, Senate Majority Leader, Senate Minority Leader, and one additional member selected by the others;</p>
<p>Protection under these guidelines should only be granted within one year prior to the general election. Protection more than one year prior to the general election should only be granted in extraordinary, case by case circumstances in consultation with the committee, based on threat assessment and other factors.&#8221;</p>
<p>DHS refused protection to RFK jr despite this:<br />
&#8220;Major candidates and their spouses began receiving protection after the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Cornhead		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/17/the-lefts-goals-for-trump/#comment-2694407</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2023 15:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[1. &quot;Trump’s trials are timed so that it is unlikely that they will be concluded and Trump sentenced and imprisoned prior to the election.&quot;

That DC trial is set for January 2024 and it will happen then. Super likely.

2. I asked Vivek about his parents&#039; reaction when he told them he was running. He said they were concerned about his safety as he is such an opponent of the Deep State. I never thought of that. 

Again, watch the debate and pay attention to Vivek. Also, an interview with Tucker on TwitterX. He&#039;s consistent. Said the same things in Iowa the 3 times I&#039;ve seen him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. &#8220;Trump’s trials are timed so that it is unlikely that they will be concluded and Trump sentenced and imprisoned prior to the election.&#8221;</p>
<p>That DC trial is set for January 2024 and it will happen then. Super likely.</p>
<p>2. I asked Vivek about his parents&#8217; reaction when he told them he was running. He said they were concerned about his safety as he is such an opponent of the Deep State. I never thought of that. </p>
<p>Again, watch the debate and pay attention to Vivek. Also, an interview with Tucker on TwitterX. He&#8217;s consistent. Said the same things in Iowa the 3 times I&#8217;ve seen him.</p>
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		By: Martin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/17/the-lefts-goals-for-trump/#comment-2694377</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2023 13:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul Harmon on August 17, 2023 at 5:40 pm

People should understand the power of a martyr. Sometimes even knowing people allow their hatred to blind them of that fact. If later on in the campaign they feel like he is not properly destroyed, that people may still vote for him they will seriously consider killing him. That is only the planners and schemers. The rank a file morons they have been stirring up for the last seven years may not have that much patience. I also fear a real or false flag attempt on his opponent since that would be more strategic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Harmon on August 17, 2023 at 5:40 pm</p>
<p>People should understand the power of a martyr. Sometimes even knowing people allow their hatred to blind them of that fact. If later on in the campaign they feel like he is not properly destroyed, that people may still vote for him they will seriously consider killing him. That is only the planners and schemers. The rank a file morons they have been stirring up for the last seven years may not have that much patience. I also fear a real or false flag attempt on his opponent since that would be more strategic.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“I know that it may not be as bad as what I’m imagining”… BUT WHAT if Neo’s prognostications are at the upper end? The median possibility is 50% darker?

I have long reconciled myself to the fact that the nation needs a bloody French-American Revolutionary purgative — out with the feckless and incompetent and EVIL Ruling Class.

Because some people in some times just need killing.

I agree that if trump wins it will be BLM-Antifa style “fiery but mostly peaceful protests”…ALL THE TIME.

They won’t let Trump govern.

But realizing this, and knowing that the Evil Left will do it themselves eventually, then we ought to BEAT them to the punch:  the Right needs to organize a day of National Protest — a One Day National STRIKE against bribery and corruption in Federal government. No one works. All call in sick.

Rush Limbaugh would set the date and agitate. But his singular magical radio voice is gone now.

And the feckless, spineless GOP is too useless to organize anything so bad, much less whatever they do organize.

SO WHERE WILL THIS PEACEFUL OPTION COME FROM? Who’s Big enough to make it REAL?

Alternatively, should Trump win, how can the far Left’s time bomb get defused? How can destination be averted?

I imagine the President asking Republican leaders to do peaceful outreach to the enemy Indians. Smoke Peace Pipe. And NOT Discuss the Big White Father back East.

No. The point of such caucus-like socials must be to READ THE DAMN CONSTITUTION. And understand it. To make part of the vast number of deluded Indians on The War Path grasp that the POINT OF IT IS TO PROTECT DISSENT FROM BEING SQUASHED! TO ESCAPE the evils of MOBOCRACY and TYRANNY! (“Could we be the baddies” Yes, you are.)

As the British classical liberal podcaster Carl Benjamin says, liberalism is the settled conclusion that “I am not God; you are not God. And therefore NOBODY gets to play God.” Replant this belief in the corrupt far-Left, then the hazard gets defused.

IF YOU CANNOT GET BEHIND THAT, then you’re just not Americans — now escape back to your reservations and live there because we’ll shoot you if you wander off the Res.

I have further pacification-re-education efforts in mind, but you get the idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I know that it may not be as bad as what I’m imagining”… BUT WHAT if Neo’s prognostications are at the upper end? The median possibility is 50% darker?</p>
<p>I have long reconciled myself to the fact that the nation needs a bloody French-American Revolutionary purgative — out with the feckless and incompetent and EVIL Ruling Class.</p>
<p>Because some people in some times just need killing.</p>
<p>I agree that if trump wins it will be BLM-Antifa style “fiery but mostly peaceful protests”…ALL THE TIME.</p>
<p>They won’t let Trump govern.</p>
<p>But realizing this, and knowing that the Evil Left will do it themselves eventually, then we ought to BEAT them to the punch:  the Right needs to organize a day of National Protest — a One Day National STRIKE against bribery and corruption in Federal government. No one works. All call in sick.</p>
<p>Rush Limbaugh would set the date and agitate. But his singular magical radio voice is gone now.</p>
<p>And the feckless, spineless GOP is too useless to organize anything so bad, much less whatever they do organize.</p>
<p>SO WHERE WILL THIS PEACEFUL OPTION COME FROM? Who’s Big enough to make it REAL?</p>
<p>Alternatively, should Trump win, how can the far Left’s time bomb get defused? How can destination be averted?</p>
<p>I imagine the President asking Republican leaders to do peaceful outreach to the enemy Indians. Smoke Peace Pipe. And NOT Discuss the Big White Father back East.</p>
<p>No. The point of such caucus-like socials must be to READ THE DAMN CONSTITUTION. And understand it. To make part of the vast number of deluded Indians on The War Path grasp that the POINT OF IT IS TO PROTECT DISSENT FROM BEING SQUASHED! TO ESCAPE the evils of MOBOCRACY and TYRANNY! (“Could we be the baddies” Yes, you are.)</p>
<p>As the British classical liberal podcaster Carl Benjamin says, liberalism is the settled conclusion that “I am not God; you are not God. And therefore NOBODY gets to play God.” Replant this belief in the corrupt far-Left, then the hazard gets defused.</p>
<p>IF YOU CANNOT GET BEHIND THAT, then you’re just not Americans — now escape back to your reservations and live there because we’ll shoot you if you wander off the Res.</p>
<p>I have further pacification-re-education efforts in mind, but you get the idea.</p>
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		By: IrishOtter49		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2023 05:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A little OT, but I really do believe that the Battle of Midway was an instance of God&#039;s direct intervention in human affairs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little OT, but I really do believe that the Battle of Midway was an instance of God&#8217;s direct intervention in human affairs.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/17/the-lefts-goals-for-trump/#comment-2694346</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2023 04:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with jon baker that &quot;God has this&quot; -- He always has everything! -- but people are the instruments he uses, and they aren&#039;t always the most likely, or expected, ones.

I&#039;m not saying Trump is a Moses or a David or even a Gideon (although he could be!), but only that it&#039;s not always easy to discern the Hand of God when you are in the thick of the moments of crisis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with jon baker that &#8220;God has this&#8221; &#8212; He always has everything! &#8212; but people are the instruments he uses, and they aren&#8217;t always the most likely, or expected, ones.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying Trump is a Moses or a David or even a Gideon (although he could be!), but only that it&#8217;s not always easy to discern the Hand of God when you are in the thick of the moments of crisis.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2023 04:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Sgt Joe Friday &#062; &quot;The left knows that even a billionaire can be bankrupted by legal bills&quot;

@ Mike K &#062; &quot;Maybe this is an existential crisis and he is determined to try to right the ship.&quot;

The combo of comments brings this to mind:
&quot;And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.&quot;

Mr. Trump may well have reached the moment when his fortune is no longer the most important motivation in his life.

The urge driving many money-makers, and especially politicians (who take but don&#039;t make) to assemble huge fortunes appears to be generational, and, unlike the scions of so many political billionaires, Trump&#039;s family are perfectly able to manage their own businesses and fortunes. Even if he has trouble getting good legal help for these indictments, I suspect his family has long since disentangled their own fortunes from his. 

So why not devote his life, fortune, and personal honor (sacred or not), to the cause of Making America Great Again?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sgt Joe Friday &gt; &#8220;The left knows that even a billionaire can be bankrupted by legal bills&#8221;</p>
<p>@ Mike K &gt; &#8220;Maybe this is an existential crisis and he is determined to try to right the ship.&#8221;</p>
<p>The combo of comments brings this to mind:<br />
&#8220;And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Trump may well have reached the moment when his fortune is no longer the most important motivation in his life.</p>
<p>The urge driving many money-makers, and especially politicians (who take but don&#8217;t make) to assemble huge fortunes appears to be generational, and, unlike the scions of so many political billionaires, Trump&#8217;s family are perfectly able to manage their own businesses and fortunes. Even if he has trouble getting good legal help for these indictments, I suspect his family has long since disentangled their own fortunes from his. </p>
<p>So why not devote his life, fortune, and personal honor (sacred or not), to the cause of Making America Great Again?</p>
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