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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2023 08:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The sounds like a theremin.]]></description>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2023 05:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has anyone found themselves in the satellite view in a map app? My wife and I were looking at the sat view of our yard as an aid in a discussion we were having about finally landscaping this place. I noticed that my bright yellow sailing kayak was in the water which is rare but it was also beached nose into the shore which I only did one time about two years ago. Normally I beach parallel port-side to shore. That day I came in to use the restroom and then went right back out. Me and my dog are halfway between boat and house.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone found themselves in the satellite view in a map app? My wife and I were looking at the sat view of our yard as an aid in a discussion we were having about finally landscaping this place. I noticed that my bright yellow sailing kayak was in the water which is rare but it was also beached nose into the shore which I only did one time about two years ago. Normally I beach parallel port-side to shore. That day I came in to use the restroom and then went right back out. Me and my dog are halfway between boat and house.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2023 03:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob Wilson:

Yes, I have dealt with that topic.

Please see &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2012/08/28/what-do-married-women-want/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2010/07/30/schlafly-and-those-unmarried-women-voting-for-obama/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Wilson:</p>
<p>Yes, I have dealt with that topic.</p>
<p>Please see <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2012/08/28/what-do-married-women-want/">this</a> and <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2010/07/30/schlafly-and-those-unmarried-women-voting-for-obama/">this</a>.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2023 01:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE:  The treatment of UFO whistleblower David Grusch

It has been said that there are a lot of actual first hand witnesses who have seen and worked on recovered UFOs, who have seen alien bodies, but that they are waiting to see how David Grusch is being treated, before they decide if they want to come forward and testify.

The fact that people within the Intelligence Community have pointed a reporter to police records about Grusch’ brief psychiatric hospitalization for PTSD—thus doing an end run around HIPAA protections—is their attempt to intimidate and to discourage such witnesses from testifying.

Elements within our government have been running a UFO disinformation and intimidation program for many decades now.

We will see if such intimidation tactics are again successful .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  The treatment of UFO whistleblower David Grusch</p>
<p>It has been said that there are a lot of actual first hand witnesses who have seen and worked on recovered UFOs, who have seen alien bodies, but that they are waiting to see how David Grusch is being treated, before they decide if they want to come forward and testify.</p>
<p>The fact that people within the Intelligence Community have pointed a reporter to police records about Grusch’ brief psychiatric hospitalization for PTSD—thus doing an end run around HIPAA protections—is their attempt to intimidate and to discourage such witnesses from testifying.</p>
<p>Elements within our government have been running a UFO disinformation and intimidation program for many decades now.</p>
<p>We will see if such intimidation tactics are again successful .</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/16/open-thread-8-16-23/#comment-2694177</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2023 01:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rufus T Firefly—

Of course, this new bipartisan Congressional interest in UFOs could just be an attempt to distract from the information coming out about the Biden crime family.

But what I think has actually happened is that—behind the scenes briefings by people like Lou Elizondo and Chris Mellon, plus reinforcing corroborating testimony from others— have awakened and really alarmed some members of Congress about the fact that what may be matters of supreme importance have been hidden from them for decades and, moreover, that this has been done by the equivalent of a hidden government within our government which has concealed and withheld this vital information from them for many decades.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus T Firefly—</p>
<p>Of course, this new bipartisan Congressional interest in UFOs could just be an attempt to distract from the information coming out about the Biden crime family.</p>
<p>But what I think has actually happened is that—behind the scenes briefings by people like Lou Elizondo and Chris Mellon, plus reinforcing corroborating testimony from others— have awakened and really alarmed some members of Congress about the fact that what may be matters of supreme importance have been hidden from them for decades and, moreover, that this has been done by the equivalent of a hidden government within our government which has concealed and withheld this vital information from them for many decades.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2023 00:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;It’s odd that someone who has made a living witnessing the good that can be wrought by personal, non-governmental health is advocating for big government...&lt;/i&gt;

Rufus T. Firefly:

Yeah. Sad but true. 

I was a member of a &quot;Course&quot; group in the 2000s, after I had turned conservative, and I was disillusioned by what rubber-stamp progressives &quot;Course&quot; people almost all were.

Which included hating on George  W. while going on and on about love.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s odd that someone who has made a living witnessing the good that can be wrought by personal, non-governmental health is advocating for big government&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Rufus T. Firefly:</p>
<p>Yeah. Sad but true. </p>
<p>I was a member of a &#8220;Course&#8221; group in the 2000s, after I had turned conservative, and I was disillusioned by what rubber-stamp progressives &#8220;Course&#8221; people almost all were.</p>
<p>Which included hating on George  W. while going on and on about love.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2023 00:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a quote from Marianne Williamson&#039;s first book about how the &quot;Course&quot; turned her life around. It stuck in my mind for its humor:
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&lt;i&gt;If Jesus had yelled from the cross, &quot;I hate all you guys,&quot; it would been a completely different story.  There would have been no resurrection.  What created the space for his triumph was his defenselessness, his holding to love despite what others were doing to him.
 
--Marianne Williamson, &quot;Return to Love&quot; (1991)&lt;/i&gt;
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So, now you know more about Marianne Williamson than perhaps you wished.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a quote from Marianne Williamson&#8217;s first book about how the &#8220;Course&#8221; turned her life around. It stuck in my mind for its humor:<br />
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<p><i>If Jesus had yelled from the cross, &#8220;I hate all you guys,&#8221; it would been a completely different story.  There would have been no resurrection.  What created the space for his triumph was his defenselessness, his holding to love despite what others were doing to him.</p>
<p>&#8211;Marianne Williamson, &#8220;Return to Love&#8221; (1991)</i><br />
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<p>So, now you know more about Marianne Williamson than perhaps you wished.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/16/open-thread-8-16-23/#comment-2694169</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2023 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley,

Thanks. I knew almost nothing about the course in miracles, except that it had a big impact on Williamson.

I have done very little research on her, but whether she calls herself a theologian, philosopher or something else, it seems like she has helped a lot of people and she seems active in a lot of charities.

It&#039;s odd that someone who has made a living witnessing the good that can be wrought by personal, non-governmental health is advocating for big government, but she is, unfortunately, not alone (ahem, cough, Pope Francis, cough).

And nothing to be embarrassed about. Spending some portion of every day for a year thinking about love and trying to magnify it in the world can&#039;t be all bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley,</p>
<p>Thanks. I knew almost nothing about the course in miracles, except that it had a big impact on Williamson.</p>
<p>I have done very little research on her, but whether she calls herself a theologian, philosopher or something else, it seems like she has helped a lot of people and she seems active in a lot of charities.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s odd that someone who has made a living witnessing the good that can be wrought by personal, non-governmental health is advocating for big government, but she is, unfortunately, not alone (ahem, cough, Pope Francis, cough).</p>
<p>And nothing to be embarrassed about. Spending some portion of every day for a year thinking about love and trying to magnify it in the world can&#8217;t be all bad.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2023 23:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My goodness. The entire &quot;Course&quot; is now available free online:

https://acim.org/acim/text/introduction/en/s/51?wid=toc&#038;fwv=true

Hmm... I still find it deep and mysterious. I&#039;ve read a fair amount of channeled material, but the &quot;Course&quot; is in a league of its own for being coherent, yet unpredictable.

It&#039;s at least a testament to the unconscious potentials of the human mind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goodness. The entire &#8220;Course&#8221; is now available free online:</p>
<p><a href="https://acim.org/acim/text/introduction/en/s/51?wid=toc&#038;fwv=true" rel="nofollow ugc">https://acim.org/acim/text/introduction/en/s/51?wid=toc&#038;fwv=true</a></p>
<p>Hmm&#8230; I still find it deep and mysterious. I&#8217;ve read a fair amount of channeled material, but the &#8220;Course&#8221; is in a league of its own for being coherent, yet unpredictable.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s at least a testament to the unconscious potentials of the human mind.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/16/open-thread-8-16-23/#comment-2694166</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2023 23:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Marianne Williamson

Rufus T. Firefly:

I can&#039;t tell if you are aware, but Williamson is not exactly involved in theology and philosophy as most people consider those fields.

Williamson is a New Age teacher. Her background comes from the fascinating, though peculiar works known as &quot;A Course in Miracles,&quot; channeled by a Jewish atheist psychologist, Helen Schucman, from Jesus Christ. It&#039;s core teaching:
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&lt;i&gt;     Nothing real can be threatened.
     Nothing unreal exists.
     Herein lies the peace of God.
 
     --&quot;A Course in Miracles&quot;, p. 1.&lt;/i&gt;
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Love is the ultimate reality. Everything else is illusion. Our lives about healing this illusory separation between ourselves and God.

It&#039;s not surprising that Williamson&#039;s political prescriptions are vague and perhaps contradictory.

That said, I have a certain respect for the &quot;Course.&quot; I broke my brain on it for a while. It&#039;s not the usual New Age pablum. The &quot;Workbook&quot; part of the &quot;Course&quot; is 365 day-by-day exercises designed for one to deconstruct one&#039;s accustomed false reality, then to experience the true reality of love.

I&#039;ve said too much ... :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Marianne Williamson</p>
<p>Rufus T. Firefly:</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t tell if you are aware, but Williamson is not exactly involved in theology and philosophy as most people consider those fields.</p>
<p>Williamson is a New Age teacher. Her background comes from the fascinating, though peculiar works known as &#8220;A Course in Miracles,&#8221; channeled by a Jewish atheist psychologist, Helen Schucman, from Jesus Christ. It&#8217;s core teaching:<br />
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<p><i>     Nothing real can be threatened.<br />
     Nothing unreal exists.<br />
     Herein lies the peace of God.</p>
<p>     &#8211;&#8220;A Course in Miracles&#8221;, p. 1.</i><br />
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<p>Love is the ultimate reality. Everything else is illusion. Our lives about healing this illusory separation between ourselves and God.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not surprising that Williamson&#8217;s political prescriptions are vague and perhaps contradictory.</p>
<p>That said, I have a certain respect for the &#8220;Course.&#8221; I broke my brain on it for a while. It&#8217;s not the usual New Age pablum. The &#8220;Workbook&#8221; part of the &#8220;Course&#8221; is 365 day-by-day exercises designed for one to deconstruct one&#8217;s accustomed false reality, then to experience the true reality of love.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said too much &#8230; 🙂</p>
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