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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/14/mothers-and-sons-and-masculinity-and-barbie/#comment-2694018</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2023 01:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; Research indicates some nature/nurture combination, as with most things human.&lt;/i&gt;
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I suspect nowadays that&#039;s a subject wherein promising lines of inquiry are suppressed by peer reviewers and the usual enforcers on faculties. 
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Althouse had ample opportunity to observe her sons and their circle of friends.  The question would be how adept an observer she is, particularly in regard to matters which carry a great deal of emotional freight.  No, she doesn&#039;t know why her sons are the way they are.  She indubitably has an idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Research indicates some nature/nurture combination, as with most things human.</i><br />
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I suspect nowadays that&#8217;s a subject wherein promising lines of inquiry are suppressed by peer reviewers and the usual enforcers on faculties.<br />
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Althouse had ample opportunity to observe her sons and their circle of friends.  The question would be how adept an observer she is, particularly in regard to matters which carry a great deal of emotional freight.  No, she doesn&#8217;t know why her sons are the way they are.  She indubitably has an idea.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/14/mothers-and-sons-and-masculinity-and-barbie/#comment-2693999</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2023 23:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike K; Art Deco:

No one actually knows WHY anyone is gay.  Research indicates some nature/nurture combination, as with most things human.

But regarding Althouse&#039;s sons, I believe (if memory serves me) that one is gay and not secretive about that (nor is she secretive about his sexual orientation), and one is not gay.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike K; Art Deco:</p>
<p>No one actually knows WHY anyone is gay.  Research indicates some nature/nurture combination, as with most things human.</p>
<p>But regarding Althouse&#8217;s sons, I believe (if memory serves me) that one is gay and not secretive about that (nor is she secretive about his sexual orientation), and one is not gay.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/14/mothers-and-sons-and-masculinity-and-barbie/#comment-2693988</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2023 22:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Finally, although I hate bullying with a passion, I can’t help but question the sincerity of the author’s dedication to anti-bullying as I fear she would only see bullying through her social-justice lenses.&lt;/i&gt;
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I think it&#039;s generally an excuse for school officials to promote homosexuality on company time.
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The problem with the anti-bullying discourse (apart from such subterfuges) is that it betrays no sense that there are trade-offs involved in intervening in disputes between the young.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Finally, although I hate bullying with a passion, I can’t help but question the sincerity of the author’s dedication to anti-bullying as I fear she would only see bullying through her social-justice lenses.</i><br />
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I think it&#8217;s generally an excuse for school officials to promote homosexuality on company time.<br />
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The problem with the anti-bullying discourse (apart from such subterfuges) is that it betrays no sense that there are trade-offs involved in intervening in disputes between the young.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/14/mothers-and-sons-and-masculinity-and-barbie/#comment-2693985</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2023 22:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Or, no one asks Ann Althouse why both her sons are gay.&lt;/i&gt;
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Both?
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They are 42 and 40, respectively.  One&#039;s a lawyer in New York, the other a massage therapist in Austin, Tx.  Of an age that it would still have been status-lowering among high school students as a rule (if not in their particular circles).  I think both attended the University of Wisconsin (one certainly did).    
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Indubitably, Althouse herself moves in circles where it would be considered outre to ponder the question, much less ask.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Or, no one asks Ann Althouse why both her sons are gay.</i><br />
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Both?<br />
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They are 42 and 40, respectively.  One&#8217;s a lawyer in New York, the other a massage therapist in Austin, Tx.  Of an age that it would still have been status-lowering among high school students as a rule (if not in their particular circles).  I think both attended the University of Wisconsin (one certainly did).<br />
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Indubitably, Althouse herself moves in circles where it would be considered outre to ponder the question, much less ask.</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2023 17:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The poor kid will either go full on revolt and display true toxic masculinity, or be in therapy for a long time. Very sad.&lt;/i&gt;

Or, no one asks Ann Althouse why both her sons are gay.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The poor kid will either go full on revolt and display true toxic masculinity, or be in therapy for a long time. Very sad.</i></p>
<p>Or, no one asks Ann Althouse why both her sons are gay.</p>
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		By: BrooklynBoy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrooklynBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2023 14:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is no way a culture and nation such as this could have won World War II.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way a culture and nation such as this could have won World War II.</p>
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		By: Abraxas		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/14/mothers-and-sons-and-masculinity-and-barbie/#comment-2693875</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abraxas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2023 14:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I get done crying on the couch about the latest indictment, I will tell the kids not to let anybody bully them.  I&#039;ll also point out to them that Joe and Kamala&#039;s America is much more like Barbie&#039;s gynocentric world than it is like a traditional patriarchy.  I&#039;m thrilled to be able to give them this guidance.

Gus Hall was very into woodworking and had a workshop in his basement.  There was an article back in the 70s or 80s by a New Leftist wondering if he and his colleagues would be like Gus in old age, resigned to their defeat and concentrating on hobbies and the private life.  I suppose the writer and his peers got tenure and are now emerited, retired, or dead, but their students are in the government now.  Norman Thomas stopped running for president 70 or so years ago, claiming that the country was already quite far on the road to socialism.  While America isn&#039;t completely Maoist yet, the 60s/70s left can be contented that we&#039;ve gone quite a way on their road.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I get done crying on the couch about the latest indictment, I will tell the kids not to let anybody bully them.  I&#8217;ll also point out to them that Joe and Kamala&#8217;s America is much more like Barbie&#8217;s gynocentric world than it is like a traditional patriarchy.  I&#8217;m thrilled to be able to give them this guidance.</p>
<p>Gus Hall was very into woodworking and had a workshop in his basement.  There was an article back in the 70s or 80s by a New Leftist wondering if he and his colleagues would be like Gus in old age, resigned to their defeat and concentrating on hobbies and the private life.  I suppose the writer and his peers got tenure and are now emerited, retired, or dead, but their students are in the government now.  Norman Thomas stopped running for president 70 or so years ago, claiming that the country was already quite far on the road to socialism.  While America isn&#8217;t completely Maoist yet, the 60s/70s left can be contented that we&#8217;ve gone quite a way on their road.</p>
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		By: Cappy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2023 14:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just tell her to calm down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just tell her to calm down.</p>
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		By: RigelDog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RigelDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2023 13:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sounds like child abuse to me---turning your son into an emblem of your own virtue. 

And what&#039;s with these women who are all the time &quot;sobbing&quot; about this, that, and the other, and then drenching their kids in that emotional tsunami? I was raised by a single mom and while I can recall some crying, it was always context-appropriate and my mother never tried to pull me into her misery, or turn to me for comfort. Moreover, when my mother DID cry, it was pretty distressing for me simply because my mother was all the security I had in the world. Why would you want to deliberately cause your child emotional distress? 

Finally, although I hate bullying with a passion, I can&#039;t help but question the sincerity of the author&#039;s dedication to anti-bullying as I fear she would only see bullying through her social-justice lenses. Would she have stood up to those three black teenaged girls who verbally and physically assaulted five Asian-Americans just because they were Asian and because it&#039;s fun to pick on people?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like child abuse to me&#8212;turning your son into an emblem of your own virtue. </p>
<p>And what&#8217;s with these women who are all the time &#8220;sobbing&#8221; about this, that, and the other, and then drenching their kids in that emotional tsunami? I was raised by a single mom and while I can recall some crying, it was always context-appropriate and my mother never tried to pull me into her misery, or turn to me for comfort. Moreover, when my mother DID cry, it was pretty distressing for me simply because my mother was all the security I had in the world. Why would you want to deliberately cause your child emotional distress? </p>
<p>Finally, although I hate bullying with a passion, I can&#8217;t help but question the sincerity of the author&#8217;s dedication to anti-bullying as I fear she would only see bullying through her social-justice lenses. Would she have stood up to those three black teenaged girls who verbally and physically assaulted five Asian-Americans just because they were Asian and because it&#8217;s fun to pick on people?</p>
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		By: Chad King		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chad King]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2023 13:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s great how that woman is using her &quot;privilege&quot; to impose her views on others. My politics don&#039;t require anyone else to do anything. Yet her politics authorize the government to take money from me under the force of law and give it to people of whom I don&#039;t approve to use for purposes I abhor. Yet in her eyes, she&#039;s the good person and I&#039;m a deplorable. Things that con&#039;t continue, won&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great how that woman is using her &#8220;privilege&#8221; to impose her views on others. My politics don&#8217;t require anyone else to do anything. Yet her politics authorize the government to take money from me under the force of law and give it to people of whom I don&#8217;t approve to use for purposes I abhor. Yet in her eyes, she&#8217;s the good person and I&#8217;m a deplorable. Things that con&#8217;t continue, won&#8217;t.</p>
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