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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2023 13:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[this was largely true in new york, first with deblasio and then adams (my tocayo, we share the same first name) it&#039;s probably true elsewhere, look at los angeles or
atlanta,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this was largely true in new york, first with deblasio and then adams (my tocayo, we share the same first name) it&#8217;s probably true elsewhere, look at los angeles or<br />
atlanta,</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2023 13:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE:  My comment above about businesses fleeing Democrat run cities at 12:04 A. M.

Looking at the development of cities, some of the chief reasons for cities to be located where they are, and for their growth, is because they serve as centers for manufacturing, commerce, and trade.  

So what happens when the factories shut down,  businesses--large and small--leave, and it becomes harder and harder for routine daily  commerce to be carried on?

The sad thing is that the citizens of these cities did this to themselves, by falling for a pack of Leftist lies, and by who they then voted into office.

I wonder, though, what percentage of eligible voters actually showed up and bothered to vote?

Did these brain dead Leftist ideologues just get voted into office because a small, but very dedicated group of leftist voters did show up, and everyone else didn&#039;t show up and vote?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  My comment above about businesses fleeing Democrat run cities at 12:04 A. M.</p>
<p>Looking at the development of cities, some of the chief reasons for cities to be located where they are, and for their growth, is because they serve as centers for manufacturing, commerce, and trade.  </p>
<p>So what happens when the factories shut down,  businesses&#8211;large and small&#8211;leave, and it becomes harder and harder for routine daily  commerce to be carried on?</p>
<p>The sad thing is that the citizens of these cities did this to themselves, by falling for a pack of Leftist lies, and by who they then voted into office.</p>
<p>I wonder, though, what percentage of eligible voters actually showed up and bothered to vote?</p>
<p>Did these brain dead Leftist ideologues just get voted into office because a small, but very dedicated group of leftist voters did show up, and everyone else didn&#8217;t show up and vote?</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2023 12:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think cosmo was the wordsmith in that crew, but lets remember he begs for his bowl of donuts for pierre omidyar, catspaw for iranian and qatari interests,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think cosmo was the wordsmith in that crew, but lets remember he begs for his bowl of donuts for pierre omidyar, catspaw for iranian and qatari interests,</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/12/open-thread-8-12-23/#comment-2693636</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2023 12:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley,  

Just listened to Oliver Anthony&#039;s song a few minutes ago.  As you said, minimalist, and powerful.  The AT article I learned about the song from said he was expressing &quot;exasperation&quot;. Yes, but there&#039;s quite a bit of barely restrained anger there.  It may be an indication that the pressure cooker at the lower and middle class levels is becoming dangerous.  My concern is that it translates into votes for Trump as he knows precisely how to tap into that anger better than the other candidates so far.  I&#039;m not a never-Trumper, but if he is the nominee I&#039;m convinced the Democrat,who ever that may be, wins.

You may be on to something as it reminds me of the music trend of the 60s when the first rumblings of antiwar and counter culture happened in folk music until it burst into the pop and rock music.  Unfortunately, today the pop music is dominated by one, maybe two chord, non-melodic, autotuned, mass production, with little chance of actual writing appearing (see Beato for reference).  Hopefully the &quot;underground&quot; music channels may make a breakthrough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley,  </p>
<p>Just listened to Oliver Anthony&#8217;s song a few minutes ago.  As you said, minimalist, and powerful.  The AT article I learned about the song from said he was expressing &#8220;exasperation&#8221;. Yes, but there&#8217;s quite a bit of barely restrained anger there.  It may be an indication that the pressure cooker at the lower and middle class levels is becoming dangerous.  My concern is that it translates into votes for Trump as he knows precisely how to tap into that anger better than the other candidates so far.  I&#8217;m not a never-Trumper, but if he is the nominee I&#8217;m convinced the Democrat,who ever that may be, wins.</p>
<p>You may be on to something as it reminds me of the music trend of the 60s when the first rumblings of antiwar and counter culture happened in folk music until it burst into the pop and rock music.  Unfortunately, today the pop music is dominated by one, maybe two chord, non-melodic, autotuned, mass production, with little chance of actual writing appearing (see Beato for reference).  Hopefully the &#8220;underground&#8221; music channels may make a breakthrough.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/08/12/open-thread-8-12-23/#comment-2693632</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2023 10:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is one source in English, on Argentina news.
https://www.batimes.com.ar/

And a story explaining Milei’s libertarian appeal to youth
https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argentina/libertarian-enthusiasm-as-mileis-supporters-prepare-to-celebrate.phtml]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is one source in English, on Argentina news.<br />
<a href="https://www.batimes.com.ar/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.batimes.com.ar/</a></p>
<p>And a story explaining Milei’s libertarian appeal to youth<br />
<a href="https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argentina/libertarian-enthusiasm-as-mileis-supporters-prepare-to-celebrate.phtml" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argentina/libertarian-enthusiasm-as-mileis-supporters-prepare-to-celebrate.phtml</a></p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2023 10:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SOME FURTHER CONTEXT, since many will not know about Argentina.
Ever since the Peronist “Evita” era, the country has been subject to socialist and fascist swings, sometimes with moderates heading government in between. 

The political swings have gotten more extreme over the last 30 years. But for over a century, it has never managed to embrace capitalism. Illustration? Is the Commie Pope in Rome from Argentina? Yes.

So, perhaps after trying arrangements that have failed repeatedly, has she reached an innovative turning point?

Inflation is over 100% per year. And for many years, the nation has cut itself off from international investment — which in LatAm is the most common scapegoat for failure.

“Crisis” investing indeed!

THERE’S much more to learn here for those willing to listen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOME FURTHER CONTEXT, since many will not know about Argentina.<br />
Ever since the Peronist “Evita” era, the country has been subject to socialist and fascist swings, sometimes with moderates heading government in between. </p>
<p>The political swings have gotten more extreme over the last 30 years. But for over a century, it has never managed to embrace capitalism. Illustration? Is the Commie Pope in Rome from Argentina? Yes.</p>
<p>So, perhaps after trying arrangements that have failed repeatedly, has she reached an innovative turning point?</p>
<p>Inflation is over 100% per year. And for many years, the nation has cut itself off from international investment — which in LatAm is the most common scapegoat for failure.</p>
<p>“Crisis” investing indeed!</p>
<p>THERE’S much more to learn here for those willing to listen.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2023 10:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Argentina’s lead vote getter for the next President is an Anarcho-capitalist libertarian Javier Miles.

AP headline “ Far-right populist emerges as biggest vote-getter in Argentina’s presidential primary voting [Javier Milei]

My source anticipating this initial outcome, October sees the final election, is Doug Casey, a fiction writer and investment councillor and columnist of the same Anarcho-capitalist libertarian stripe.

Casey not only lives in Argentina but does a weekly podcast on YT. And so, he cheered him on a few months ago.

But what is an AnCap political  platform? What does it look like? Abolish the State as much as possible!

Let’s see if the AP story reflects this:
“Far-right populist Javier Milei rocked Argentina’s political establishment Sunday by emerging as the biggest vote-getter in primary elections to choose presidential candidates for the October general election in a nation battered by economic woes.

“Milei, an admirer of former U.S. President Donald Trump, says Argentina’s Central Bank should be abolished, thinks climate change is a lie, characterizes sex education as a ploy to destroy the family, believes the sale of human organs should be legal and wants to make it easier to own handguns.

“Votes were still being counted late Sunday, but analysts agreed that the upstart candidate who gained notoriety — and a rockstar-like following — by angrily ranting against the “political caste” did much better than expected and is a real contender for the presidency in this South American country.

“With around 92% of polling locations reporting, Milei had around 30% of the total vote, according to official results….”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4174918/posts

Look closer:
Milie says “Argentina’s Central Bank should be abolished, thinks climate change is a lie, characterizes sex education as a ploy to destroy the family, believes the sale of human organs should be legal and wants to make it easier to own handguns.”

Sounds like state government abolition to me!

We may want to pay attention to what happens there over the next few months.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argentina’s lead vote getter for the next President is an Anarcho-capitalist libertarian Javier Miles.</p>
<p>AP headline “ Far-right populist emerges as biggest vote-getter in Argentina’s presidential primary voting [Javier Milei]</p>
<p>My source anticipating this initial outcome, October sees the final election, is Doug Casey, a fiction writer and investment councillor and columnist of the same Anarcho-capitalist libertarian stripe.</p>
<p>Casey not only lives in Argentina but does a weekly podcast on YT. And so, he cheered him on a few months ago.</p>
<p>But what is an AnCap political  platform? What does it look like? Abolish the State as much as possible!</p>
<p>Let’s see if the AP story reflects this:<br />
“Far-right populist Javier Milei rocked Argentina’s political establishment Sunday by emerging as the biggest vote-getter in primary elections to choose presidential candidates for the October general election in a nation battered by economic woes.</p>
<p>“Milei, an admirer of former U.S. President Donald Trump, says Argentina’s Central Bank should be abolished, thinks climate change is a lie, characterizes sex education as a ploy to destroy the family, believes the sale of human organs should be legal and wants to make it easier to own handguns.</p>
<p>“Votes were still being counted late Sunday, but analysts agreed that the upstart candidate who gained notoriety — and a rockstar-like following — by angrily ranting against the “political caste” did much better than expected and is a real contender for the presidency in this South American country.</p>
<p>“With around 92% of polling locations reporting, Milei had around 30% of the total vote, according to official results….”<br />
<a href="https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4174918/posts" rel="nofollow ugc">https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4174918/posts</a></p>
<p>Look closer:<br />
Milie says “Argentina’s Central Bank should be abolished, thinks climate change is a lie, characterizes sex education as a ploy to destroy the family, believes the sale of human organs should be legal and wants to make it easier to own handguns.”</p>
<p>Sounds like state government abolition to me!</p>
<p>We may want to pay attention to what happens there over the next few months.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2023 07:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t paid any attention to Jonah in years, despite having read him happily prior to 2016, but this is just crazy. 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/08/jonah_goldberg_claims_small_donors_are_a_big_problem_for_democracy.html
&lt;blockquote&gt;“Now small donors are one of the biggest problems for democracy, for the GOP. Because small donors — large donors actually have a strategic view about moderation, who can win, who can’t. Small donors really are just venting their spleen with their credit card, and they lock candidates into positions that can hurt them in the general election.”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t paid any attention to Jonah in years, despite having read him happily prior to 2016, but this is just crazy. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/08/jonah_goldberg_claims_small_donors_are_a_big_problem_for_democracy.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/08/jonah_goldberg_claims_small_donors_are_a_big_problem_for_democracy.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>“Now small donors are one of the biggest problems for democracy, for the GOP. Because small donors — large donors actually have a strategic view about moderation, who can win, who can’t. Small donors really are just venting their spleen with their credit card, and they lock candidates into positions that can hurt them in the general election.”
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2023 06:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ huxley &#062; Remy does his thing with the Aldean song.
Hilarious, as usual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwGM-v3uVT0

LYRICS:
Open a lemonade stand on the sidewalk
Go for a long walk in the middle of the night
Keep schools open so that kids can keep on learning
You think it&#039;s cool, well act a fool if you like

Put someone&#039;s groceries in a bag
That doesn&#039;t immediately break
Don&#039;t bake a penis cake

Well try that in a large town
See how far you make it down the road
Around here we&#039;re punishing our own
You cross that line, it won&#039;t take long
For you to find out, I recommend you don&#039;t
Try that in a large town

Call the line for nonemergencies
&#039;Cuz somebody&#039;s dropping trousers on your daisies
That stuff might fly in the country—good luck

Well try that in a large town
See how far you make it down the road
Around here we speed camera our own
You cross that line, it won&#039;t take long
For you to find out, I recommend you don&#039;t
Try that in a large town]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ huxley &gt; Remy does his thing with the Aldean song.<br />
Hilarious, as usual.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwGM-v3uVT0" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwGM-v3uVT0</a></p>
<p>LYRICS:<br />
Open a lemonade stand on the sidewalk<br />
Go for a long walk in the middle of the night<br />
Keep schools open so that kids can keep on learning<br />
You think it&#8217;s cool, well act a fool if you like</p>
<p>Put someone&#8217;s groceries in a bag<br />
That doesn&#8217;t immediately break<br />
Don&#8217;t bake a penis cake</p>
<p>Well try that in a large town<br />
See how far you make it down the road<br />
Around here we&#8217;re punishing our own<br />
You cross that line, it won&#8217;t take long<br />
For you to find out, I recommend you don&#8217;t<br />
Try that in a large town</p>
<p>Call the line for nonemergencies<br />
&#8216;Cuz somebody&#8217;s dropping trousers on your daisies<br />
That stuff might fly in the country—good luck</p>
<p>Well try that in a large town<br />
See how far you make it down the road<br />
Around here we speed camera our own<br />
You cross that line, it won&#8217;t take long<br />
For you to find out, I recommend you don&#8217;t<br />
Try that in a large town</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2023 04:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE:  Why would anyone want to open a new business, or run an existing business in these towns?*

Democrat governing officials in these towns—and many more around the country--are deliberately—it seems—running these towns into the ground with their policies; officials who—I am sure—will not be the ones to suffer the consequences of their decisions, betrayals, and derelictions. 

No, it will be the ordinary law abiding citizens of these places who will suffer, as more and more  businesses flee these cities, as more and more people who can afford to flee, as these towns accelerate their slide into becoming empty, hollowed out versions of what they once were; hellholes, and potential ghost towns in the making.

*  See  https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/shoplifting-threatens-close-washington-dc-grocery-store-creating/

And see also  https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/video-up-100000-merchandise-stolen-los-angeles-nordstrom/  and

https://cwbchicago.com/2023/07/store-looted-40-arrested-as-teen-trend-overruns-south-loop.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  Why would anyone want to open a new business, or run an existing business in these towns?*</p>
<p>Democrat governing officials in these towns—and many more around the country&#8211;are deliberately—it seems—running these towns into the ground with their policies; officials who—I am sure—will not be the ones to suffer the consequences of their decisions, betrayals, and derelictions. </p>
<p>No, it will be the ordinary law abiding citizens of these places who will suffer, as more and more  businesses flee these cities, as more and more people who can afford to flee, as these towns accelerate their slide into becoming empty, hollowed out versions of what they once were; hellholes, and potential ghost towns in the making.</p>
<p>*  See  <a href="https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/shoplifting-threatens-close-washington-dc-grocery-store-creating/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/shoplifting-threatens-close-washington-dc-grocery-store-creating/</a></p>
<p>And see also  <a href="https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/video-up-100000-merchandise-stolen-los-angeles-nordstrom/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/video-up-100000-merchandise-stolen-los-angeles-nordstrom/</a>  and</p>
<p><a href="https://cwbchicago.com/2023/07/store-looted-40-arrested-as-teen-trend-overruns-south-loop.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://cwbchicago.com/2023/07/store-looted-40-arrested-as-teen-trend-overruns-south-loop.html</a></p>
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